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They package the modem/controllers on the S3, but the actual radios (of all kinds) are on separate chips.

In the case of my phone, the WiMAX/4G radio is still that 65 nm Sequans, so it's still a hog. (My battery life brags are without 4G, rarely have access to it.)

Without a proper teardown on the Rezound (the only one I've seen still had the RF shielding over the main components, so no way to get part numbers) or a schematic, no way to tell what the LTE or other radios are.

And speaking of RF - an SoC is enough of a nightmare to manage for its own RF with various multi-speed buses - so imagine how much worse that would be if you added the radios into that same chip.

The OMAP4 in Nexus is really something at managing the internal clock speeds to maintain data integrity - can't praise that enough.

The S3 was originally marked as the 8260/8660 where the first had only the GSM modem/controller and the second had that plus the CDMA one. People constantly kept reading that as radios and then causing a negative perception that someone was holding out on them for world-phone capabilities. I'm not 100% sure, but I think that's why they re-named it to the S3 and then took down the sub-model explanations from their public site (last I checked).

And a little PS on anything S3 or Snapdragon - it's not really A8 based (I used to make that same mistake). Snapdragon is to Cortex as AMD is to Intel - they can run the same commands, but just as an AMD is not a version of an Intel, so a Snapdragon is not a version of an A8 Cortex.

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If anyone cares, here's a pretty good teardown of the RAZR (not as good as others they've done, but pretty good) -

Motorola Droid RAZR Teardown - Page 3 - iFixit

I was very surprised to find that the full memory package was not a single MCP by Samsung, but rather that plus a Toshiba chip - so I may have to eat crow on the idea that the Gnex will use a single MCP for memory. (Well, that - or Samsung kept those to themselves, we'll soon see I think.)

Hope this helps! :)

Thanks for the awesome wrapup. That's why I called you the expert.

Sorry, I got confused as well and called it the radios, when it's really the modems. But by that same token, I also believe Qualcomm has developed thier own LTE radios, as did Motorola. Not sure about Samsung.

And as you said, the Snapdragon isn't an ARM design. I like the AMD/Intel comparison, because it's very similar. Also nice how they can run each core at different speeds.
 
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If the GNex is not on VZW by the eighth or we don't have a concrete date soon I am done.

I will get one unlocked for AT&T. T-MO or Sprint. Or wait until they are released for one of those carriers.

Why? I truely feel VZW has kept us in the dark for selfish reasons. If they continue to do so adios.

This is America and the customer is ALWAYS right (yeah right) but seriously as I stated on Facebook, we pay premium prices for service and devices so we should get premium treatment

Unfortunately, Verizon has latched on to this strategy. To be fair, they haven't treated this phone any different than all the others. They put their chips in 2-3 phones a year, and the rest get a 1 or 2 day notice before being released. This is not one of the 2-3, as stupid as that is. We pressured them to change their mind, but it is just not happening. The customer is not always right, that changed, especially with the recession. Now the dollar is always right, and the customer is accomodated only when the dollar is in question.
 
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Traceability with news blogs is a thing with me.

Let's talk about the confirmed Samsung date.

Business Insider provided no citations - so I don't believe them.

Droid Dog quoted Electronista as their source and Electronista said that this story came from their staff.

And who is Electronista? About Us | Electronista

I think a little tune is in order -


Yeah. It's like that. ;)

PS - I totally missed all the other posts on this. :D

Well, anyway - still, check out who Electronista is and enjoy the tune! :)
 
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Unfortunately, Verizon has latched on to this strategy. To be fair, they haven't treated this phone any different than all the others. They put their chips in 2-3 phones a year, and the rest get a 1 or 2 day notice before being released. This is not one of the 2-3, as stupid as that is. We pressured them to change their mind, but it is just not happening. The customer is not always right, that changed, especially with the recession. Now the dollar is always right, and the customer is accomodated only when the dollar is in question.

If I gleaned what you were saying correctly, I agree Verizon is a bunch of rude imbeciles. Lol ;)
 
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I've been a lurker here for about the last 200 or so pages, I've gained about 6 pounds from all the popcorn loaded with butter I've been eating. I've stopped watching TV completely since I've started following this thread.

This is the best thing going!

Go!!!!

Because of your post I am now eating a bowl of popcorn! The power of suggestion! :D:
 
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On the Razr thread a guy (perhaps a VZW employee?) had gotten his hands for a brief period on the GNex. He reported having issues with the GPS and getting a lock. He eventually gave up, but he reported that all location services were on.

The two Sammys I've had displayed exactly the same problem with GPS...especially my POS Charge.

So it seems that Samsung may still have issues with GPS. Not good at all. :(
 
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Unfortunately, Verizon has latched on to this strategy. To be fair, they haven't treated this phone any different than all the others. They put their chips in 2-3 phones a year, and the rest get a 1 or 2 day notice before being released. This is not one of the 2-3, as stupid as that is. We pressured them to change their mind, but it is just not happening. The customer is not always right, that changed, especially with the recession. Now the dollar is always right, and the customer is accomodated only when the dollar is in question.

Yep. So our only recourse is to threaten Verizon's dollars by taking them to somebody else. The reality is the US cell phone market is a closed market where the carriers have basically limited movement by all doing pretty much the same thing and same pricing. Kind of how all the airlines screw you on baggage fees and you don't have much you can do but bend over and take it (unless maybe southwest works out for ya).
 
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Tomorrow is busiest travel day in the US. Hope everyone gets safe to wherever they are going.

Since we don't have to worry about GNex news this week, we can at least enjoy Thanksgiving in peace.

Or not, cause now I can't lock myself in the bathroom with the GNex, I actually have to... (gasp)... visit with family. ;)
 
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Noooooooo...hit the thanks button by accident ..but in reality, how's it going to feel losing to the same team...your biggest rival,like 8 times in a row, even in our worse season in years. Really? Gotta be a little hard talking smack after years of but whippings, blue alright, sad and blue, and black and blue. And don't give a damn bout you. OH...........


IO!
 
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On the Razr thread a guy (perhaps a VZW employee?) had gotten his hands for a brief period on the GNex. He reported having issues with the GPS and getting a lock. He eventually gave up, but he reported that all location services were on.

The two Sammys I've had displayed exactly the same problem with GPS...especially my POS Charge.

So it seems that Samsung may still have issues with GPS. Not good at all. :(

I am doubting whether that guy even has one. All the info he posted is public knowledge we all know. And others have reported acceptable GPS lock with the nexus. We'll have to wait and see, but I'd take that person's info with a grain of salt. He also mentioned the building/his location inside the building could be part of the problem.
 
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Yep. So our only recourse is to threaten Verizon's dollars by taking them to somebody else. The reality is the US cell phone market is a closed market where the carriers have basically limited movement by all doing pretty much the same thing and same pricing. Kind of how all the airlines screw you on baggage fees and you don't have much you can do but bend over and take it (unless maybe southwest works out for ya).

Well, the problem is they look at each market, and make sure there is sufficient competition within that market. But for me, I live in one market, and work in another, and guess what, other than Verizon, no carrier can take me from one market to another, and all points in between. That is where Verizon has so many people in a vise, unless you live and work in the same urban area.
 
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I am doubting whether that guy even has one. All the info he posted is public knowledge we all know. And others have reported acceptable GPS lock with the nexus. We'll have to wait and see, but I'd take that person's info with a grain of salt. He also mentioned the building/his location inside the building could be part of the problem.

It's possible, but it is consistent with the experience I've had with Samsungs.

He also got low Quadrant scores for some reason. I guess we'll find out in several weeks.
 
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Well sorry but since you guys have to play by the rules now things are going to be a little different... BTW hows that 6-5 record feeling

GO BLUE!!

Play by the rules? You act as if players selling stuff that they OWNED gave them a competitive advantage on the field. What they did was against NCAA regulations, absolutely, and Tressel had no choice but to leave given his involvement in covering it up, but it doesn't change the fact that you were beaten on the field fair and square.

And I hope you haven't exhausted your patience waiting for the Galaxy Nexus, because after Saturday you're going to have to wait ANOTHER year before you have the opportunity to break that losing streak against OSU.

Noooooooo...hit the thanks button by accident ..but in reality, how's it going to feel losing to the same team...your biggest rival,like 8 times in a row, even in our worse season in years. Really? Gotta be a little hard talking smack after years of but whippings, blue alright, sad and blue, and black and blue. And don't give a damn bout you. OH...........

I-O!
 
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It's possible, but it is consistent with the experience I've had with Samsungs.

He also got low Quadrant scores for some reason. I guess we'll find out in several weeks.

I can't find the link, but someone with an LTE Gnex reported acceptable GPS lock time (not as fast as others, but still much better than typical Samsung).
 
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Well, the problem is they look at each market, and make sure there is sufficient competition within that market. But for me, I live in one market, and work in another, and guess what, other than Verizon, no carrier can take me from one market to another, and all points in between. That is where Verizon has so many people in a vise, unless you live and work in the same urban area.


Yea. Truth of the matter is all companies have made a science of maximizing profit to the detriment of the customer. Basically as customers we are screwed no matter where we look. Our only choice is what the name of the company screwing us is going to be.

I just happen to be in a little bit of an advantage by working for the dod and getting unlimited data going to ATT. Plus the gsm would be better for overseas travel.
 
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