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Hi all,

My contract expires with O2 (UK) this Friday (9thDec). I will be upgrading from my DHD to an SXE.

Does any one know if O2 have there own firmware loaded or do they use HTC's generic firmware?

Im just wondering as I know Carphone Warehouse sell them with HTC's firmware, but they are expensive, but O2 can give me the phone cheaper but will it have O2's firmware?


Thanks for your time guys.
 
I'm using a sim free XE bought from CPW, there was an OTA immediately on starting the phone. After updating, my software now shows as below. Maybe the O2 folks could confirm their software details?

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Thanks for replies guys.

Just spoken to Luke @ HTC support, seems he didn't have the latest version:

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Luke: Hi Lee, thank you for contacting HTC Support, I am looking in to your query now.

Luke: The current software for the xe is 2.3.5

Lee Foster: Hi Luke, I'm after the RUU number.

Luke: There is no RUU they are OTA only

Luke: The software number is 1.50.401

Lee Foster: I know, but is the latest version 1.73.401.4?

Luke: That is from our Kit phones, I have not seen any new updates for the xE

Luke: The software on our phones is 1.50

Lee Foster: Ok, could the version I have be a carrier version?

Luke: what software version do you have?

Lee Foster: 1.73.401.1
Luke: hmm, maybe I t needs up update one moment

Luke: an update*

Lee Foster: Ok................

Luke: Yeah it does

Luke: 1.73.401.4

Luke: Is the latest sorry about that

Lee Foster: Ha ha, No worries Luke. Thanks for time & help.

Luke: I am happy to help and glad your issue is now resolved. Is there anything else I can do for you?

Lee Foster: Thats everything, Thanks Luke.

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Well, I went to the O2 store yesterday to get my SXE.

Looks like O2 have their own fimware: 1.73.206.3

Looks like I'm gonna have to try to root it to get the stock rom.

Any body know where to start?:thinking:

Did you get notification of an update after you'd set up the phone? I know that I did on my sim free phone, but I don't know what the software number was prior to the update. I was wondering if you'd get the update and it would match theone I posted earlier.

You should visit xda for the rooting info Sensation Android Development - xda-developers
 
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I went back to the O2 store yesterday & spoke to the sales guy who sold it to me.

He said that the phone was branded with O2's own firmware, not HTC's stock ROM. So I said I didn't want the phone & that I want to return it.

Long story short, they excepted the return in the end & put me back on my original tariff.

I then had a two minute walk across the retail park to Carphone Warehouse & upgraded there, which I should have done in the first place;)
 
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I went back to the O2 store yesterday & spoke to the sales guy who sold it to me.

He said that the phone was branded with O2's own firmware, not HTC's stock ROM. So I said I didn't want the phone & that I want to return it.

Long story short, they excepted the return in the end & put me back on my original tariff.

I then had a two minute walk across the retail park to Carphone Warehouse & upgraded there, which I should have done in the first place;)

If you do not mind me asking, what is the difference between the two firmwares? Coming from an Orange phone back to O2 I am glad I do not see all the garbage Orange puts on the phone. O2 seems to have left the phone untouched. No?
 
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What's the big deal with having the generic manufacturer firmware instead of the network one? What kind of 'garbage' do networks actually put on the phone? I have an O2 iPhone (shortly upgrading to an O2 SXE) and I've never seen anything O2 specific on there. Is it really that big a deal that you felt you had to return the phone!?
 
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What's the big deal with having the generic manufacturer firmware instead of the network one? What kind of 'garbage' do networks actually put on the phone? I have an O2 iPhone (shortly upgrading to an O2 SXE) and I've never seen anything O2 specific on there. Is it really that big a deal that you felt you had to return the phone!?

In case of Orange, they put all sorts of stuff in that are useless and slow the phone down, effectively crippling its capabilities. I am with you on this one for O2. I have not noticed any branded apps or restrictions on the phone because of the firmware.
 
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I would always recommend NOT buying direct from a network. Not only are their tarrifs more expensive than EXACTLY the same tariff from e.g. Dialaphone, but when you buy from a reseller you get an unbranded phone which isn't locked to a network.
The advantage is you can pop any sim in and it will work, you'll pay less, and you get updates as soon as HTC release them. With a network branded phone you get updates much later or not as all (no incentive for them to adapt the update to their custom bloated firmware).
 
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I don't agree about it being cheaper. When my contract was up I naturally looked around for the best deal. Of course I do agree about waiting longer for updates, and I may well eat my words when ics comes and I have to wait but £25 a month for 600 mins cross network, free phone, unlimited landline anytime, unlimited data( well, 1gb but won't be charged if I go over which I never did during my last contract) 500 texts also I think, although I'm not a big texter. I couldnt find a better deal anywhere.

I don't see any T-Mobile bloatware on here...I might be wrong.

The way I see it about updates, if I really care about getting ics immediately I can root, or wait, which incidentally I don't thing any of the carriers are going to take as long as they have in the past with this one, I think they will be competing with each other to be the better customer considerate company. Am I being naive? We'll see over the next month or so after HTC bring ics to the xe.
 
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