Root Rooted users, How often do you reboot?

CYNICALifornia · Jul 17, 2012

I find my phones runs better when I reboot it about once a week. The logic here being that rebooting clears the caches, tidying things up a bit in the system.

For my fellow roots, how often do you clear the dalvik? I generally do it whenever I'm in recovery or if things get buggy.

Has your experience been similar?

kbp08tls · Jul 17, 2012

I fully power down and reboot my phone once every couple of days. But then I'm an old school PC guy that believes if you're not rebooting your computer at least once daily then you're doing it wrong

Old habits die hard.

I clear cache/Dalvik every time I'm in recovery as well, which has been often over the last week or so.

pastafarian · Jul 17, 2012

The only time I've rebooted is to root and flash a rom (currently Mean 1.7). I haven't had reason to do so otherwise. I never needed to reboot when on stock either, everything just worked.

Rxpert83 · Jul 17, 2012

I wipe caches about once a week

EarlyMon · Jul 17, 2012

^Ditto, or whenever I install anything that I consider goofy and want to make sure I'm clean after an uninstall.

windsorclarenc · Jul 17, 2012

I clear cache and dalvik cache every time I reboot my phone pretty much. Yeah it's a bit overkill, but clearing those solved so many problems on my OG Evo that I just made a habit of it to prevent problems. With LTEvo I don't often have to reboot my phone, so maybe twice a week. Or if things start to get laggy.

emerilnut · Jul 17, 2012

I got into the habit of rebooting my CyanogenMod Nexus1 every 24-48 hours since things would get wonky if I didn't.

I've carried on that habit with the LTEvo since I've had it 'cuz well, it's habit

I've only had it like a week now.

CYNICALifornia · Jul 17, 2012

Alright, awesome. It's not just in my head that it works then.

It is some the advice I give new smart phone owners, to reboot once a week.

windsorclarenc · Jul 17, 2012

CYNICALifornia said:
Alright, awesome. It's not just in my head that it works then.

It is some the advice I give new smart phone owners, to reboot once a week.

Oh yeah, definitely. A lot of lag and minor issues can be fixed with a simple reboot. It's really surprising how many people don't know to reboot your phone occasionally. Definitely good advice to give.

ovrrdrive · Jul 17, 2012

Those of us that run the latest Meanrom don't have to worry about rebooting or clearing the caches. All of that happens every few days with mikey churning out new versions... lol

Tre Lawrence · Jul 18, 2012

Phone reboots automatically after Titanium Backup runs every week. I generally don't care, to be honest... LOL. I use App2SD Pro to clear cache every few days.

pwrmedia · Jul 18, 2012

Tre Lawrence said:
Phone reboots automatically after Titanium Backup runs every week. I generally don't care, to be honest... LOL. I use App2SD Pro to clear cache every few days.

This.

I typically run a TB 2x/week or whenever a new ROM is to be flashed. Right after running the backup, I'll wipe dalvik/cache as well as clean up/reindex SQLite databases.

Other than that, I don't reboot unless necessary.

Tre Lawrence · Jul 18, 2012

pwrmedia said:
This.

I typically run a TB 2x/week or whenever a new ROM is to be flashed. Right after running the backup, I'll wipe dalvik/cache as well as clean up/reindex SQLite databases.

Other than that, I don't reboot unless necessary.

How (and why) do you clean up the SQLite databases? Trying to learn something new.

pwrmedia · Jul 18, 2012

Tre Lawrence said:
How (and why) do you clean up the SQLite databases? Trying to learn something new.

It's done to optimize performance.

Reindexing and "vacuuming" your databases helps to clean out the empty space that is caused over time due to fragmentation. The longer you leave a database unchecked, the more empty space to accumulate. Defragging these databases restores space and reclaims performance.

If you'd like an individual app that does just this, check here for a reference:

[APP][ROOT] Sqlite Vacuum Cleaner - xda-developers

Additionally, there are a few scripts lingering out there (V6 Supercharger, for example) in which you can perform this task directly within w/o the need of installing a separate app.

YMMV, as true performance gains will be seen on apps that store large amounts of data. If you don't use such apps, then vacuuming your databases won't do much for you.

EarlyMon · Jul 18, 2012

I take that for granted with V6, but I think that is great info.

I'm going to spin your post out into a new thread and add it to the sticky guide.

The app is so much more convenient.

Please post your savings.

Some issue with that app - best to hold off for now.

EarlyMon · Jul 18, 2012

I think that I just lost my ringtone and notification list.

Friend just ran on his RAZR, saved zero kb, same for me....

CYNICALifornia · Jul 18, 2012

Good deal. I'm giving this vaccuuming thing a try right now.

pwrmedia · Jul 18, 2012

EarlyMon said:
I think that I just lost my ringtone and notification list.

Friend just ran on his RAZR, saved zero kb, same for me....

You lost both of those running the app, or did you run it through a script?

I haven't used the app since the days of the 3D, but I can't say I've ever lost any thing that I can recall. There were some issues early when certain Google apps (ie. Mail and Voice) would FC immediately after reindexing, but a reboot into recovery and dalvik wipe resolved those...

And yes, as far as savings, it's strictly app-dependent. If you're using something that stores an incredible amount of data consistently (ie. 3rd party browsers, maps, certain games), then you'll see a noticeable increase in load time after reindexing.

I'm curious though of your first issue, and wonder if the app deep cleansed system db's as well as downloaded programs. That may explain the loss, but I'm not positive.

CYNICALifornia · Jul 18, 2012

EarlyMon said:
I think that I just lost my ringtone and notification list.

Friend just ran on his RAZR, saved zero kb, same for me....

Same result for me, 0kb.

EarlyMon · Jul 18, 2012

I lost ringtones and notifications - empty selection list - running that app.

Never a problem with V6 vacuuming.

pwrmedia · Jul 18, 2012

CYNICALifornia said:
Same result for me, 0kb.

I run this maintenance through V6 Supercharger (opt 19), in which it doesn't display a final amount saved, simply a percentage completed and number of databases optimized.

The focal point now, I guess, is determining how effective performing this maintenance is on our LTEvo's. Admittedly, any performance gains seen out of this can very well be a placebo effect, as we've discovered so far with other "tried and true" carry overs from previous phones. I'd imagine this particular tweak HAS to be beneficial simply because database management has remained consistent for years, regardless of OS or platform. But, with other tweaks in effect (kernel OC, mem management, etc.), who knows? :thinking:

pwrmedia · Jul 18, 2012

EarlyMon said:
I lost ringtones and notifications - empty selection list - running that app.

Never a problem with V6 vacuuming.

Hmm.....

Seeing as the app was last updated about 4 months ago, I'd imagine it's fairly up to par. I'd reach out to the dev, but I see you've made mention of the issue on the XDA thread.

I'm going to reach out to Zep though to see if he can include a memory saved feature on his option for this in his V6 script. Hopefully, the data loss issue is isolated!!

EarlyMon · Jul 18, 2012

I just fell back to my nandroid, no big deal. And an update four months ago means that it might not have been ICS ready - I'm fairly sure my buddy with his Razr would have a pretty dirty setup by now.

PS - I seem to recall others vacuuming the db at boot for the LTEvo - freeza perhaps? and I think at least another.

pwrmedia · Jul 18, 2012

EarlyMon said:
I just fell back to my nandroid, no big deal. And an update four months ago means that it might not have been ICS ready - I'm fairly sure my buddy with his Razr would have a pretty dirty setup by now.

PS - I seem to recall others vacuuming the db at boot for the LTEvo - freeza perhaps? and I think at least another.

Seems familiar, and if this is something already done upon boot w/ our phones, then running it after the fact is all for naught. Interesting theory here....upon restarting the phone on Sense ROMs, the message given that "temporary files will be cleared out of memory" now makes me think that perhaps a reindexing of HTC's own doing is already implemented? I haven't researched this in depth to see if that's the case, but...thoughts?

argedion · Jul 18, 2012

Every time I make a new splash screen

I've always felt that rebooting the phone was best when I had issues or just wanted to clean things out. I think its important to wipe cache's every week but thats the opinion of a frog

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