Root [CDMA] Complete Newbie's Guide to rooting and flashing Evo 3D ROMs/Kernels using fastboot

Brian706 · Sep 5, 2013

I actually think it's fun as in fun, but many people think otherwise. It's really not as bad as it initially sounds when you first look into it.

It's something we can definitely help you get through if you decide to do it.

It is something you should consider before you root.
Directions are here if you want to see what it's about: http://unlimited.io/juopunutbear.htm

The reason I say to decide before you root is to save some headache. Basically the s-off process is done pre-root now. It is done after the bootloader unlock. No rom flash or superuser flash.

S-off will save you headaches in the future for flashing other roms, but is not required. You will be limited to stock based roms without s-off, and no jellybean.

Being s-off also gives more options to revive the phone when something goes wrong.

Here's a good post by my pal Scotty to better explain the differences between having just an unlocked bootloader and s-off: http://androidforums.com/rezound-al...off-guide-info-return-stock.html#post4394126

ruckstande · Sep 5, 2013

Brian706 said:
I actually think it's fun as in fun, but many people think otherwise. It's really not as bad as it initially sounds when you first look into it.

It's something we can definitely help you get through if you decide to do it.

It is something you should consider before you root.
Directions are here if you want to see what it's about: http://unlimited.io/juopunutbear.htm

The reason I say to decide before you root is to save some headache. Basically the s-off process is done pre-root now. It is done after the bootloader unlock. No rom flash or superuser flash.

S-off will save you headaches in the future for flashing other roms, but is not required. You will be limited to stock based roms without s-off, and no jellybean.

Being s-off also gives more options to revive the phone when something goes wrong.

Here's a good post by my pal Scotty to better explain the differences between having just an unlocked bootloader and s-off: http://androidforums.com/rezound-al...off-guide-info-return-stock.html#post4394126

Cool. Thank you for the support. I really want to revive my wife's phone. We can't afford to upgrade and don't want to renew with Sprint. Her phone also has never behaved right since installing ICS. I'm not sure what rom to go with. I was thinking about Pacman but not sure. She really needs something stable but also the ability to watch Netflix. I know that can be an excellent issue sometimes.

Brian706 · Sep 5, 2013

Well s-off is required for pacman because it's a jellybean rom. It's also stock android (no HTC sense) so it's quite a bit different. I use pacman myself and love it but if you're looking for stability, you'll probably want to stick with a stock based rom.

Have you ever performed a factory reset after the ics update? A lot of times ota updates cause issues. It corrupts cache and to clear the cache it requires a factory reset. When rooted you can easily wipe cache at any time. Plus full backups and app/app data backups which is nice. Then starting fresh isn't so detrimental because you have your app data.

ruckstande · Sep 5, 2013

Brian706 said:
Well s-off is required for pacman because it's a jellybean rom. It's also stock android (no HTC sense) so it's quite a bit different. I use pacman myself and love it but if you're looking for stability, you'll probably want to stick with a stock based rom.

Have you ever performed a factory reset after the ics update? A lot of times ota updates cause issues. It corrupts cache and to clear the cache it requires a factory reset. When rooted you can easily wipe cache at any time. Plus full backups and app/app data backups which is nice. Then starting fresh isn't so detrimental because you have your app data.

Stock based eh? Darn. Well its her phone so she'll live.

As far as the upgrade she we hard reset the phone after she was having problems and those problems creep up now and again still.

whbisondtr · Sep 6, 2013

ruckstande said:
Stock based eh? Darn. Well its her phone so she'll live.

As far as the upgrade she we hard reset the phone after she was having problems and those problems creep up now and again still.

Brian is right about goin s-off, you will have complete freedom of your phone and its really easy. The wire trick may take a few tries, but definitely worth it. As for a rom, you can try negamans Blurom, its ICS but super stable, fast and the sound(music, movies) is superb. Just make sure smart flash is on using 4ext. People tend to have issues with TWRP. Jellybean roms are good, but tend to have issues, mostly with video. Ive never ran JB with Netflix so im not sure about that. Mobsterz makes some good roms as well, but they're for Virgin Mobile, but i think, from what i saw, he puts certain files in there so you can run it on sprint. Negas blurom is for sprint, vm, and cricket.

RedBear's Evo 3D

ruckstande · Sep 6, 2013

whbisondtr said:
Brian is right about goin s-off, you will have complete freedom of your phone and its really easy. The wire trick may take a few tries, but definitely worth it. As for a rom, you can try negamans Blurom, its ICS but super stable, fast and the sound(music, movies) is superb. Just make sure smart flash is on using 4ext. People tend to have issues with TWRP. Jellybean roms are good, but tend to have issues, mostly with video. Ive never ran JB with Netflix so im not sure about that. Mobsterz makes some good roms as well, but they're for Virgin Mobile, but i think, from what i saw, he puts certain files in there so you can run it on sprint. Negas blurom is for sprint, vm, and cricket.

RedBear's Evo 3D

Thanks. you all may see me posting panicked messages this weekend.

whbisondtr · Sep 6, 2013

ruckstande said:
Thanks. you all may see me posting panicked messages this weekend.

Lol, its all good. I did the same and most of the people here are very helpful..

RedBear's Evo 3D

ruckstande · Sep 6, 2013

Okay, I want to try this Blurom. What point in the steps do I install 4ext and try Juno Bears wire trick?

Brian706 · Sep 6, 2013

Well the wire trick happens immediately after the bootloader unlock. So recovery and flashing the rom will come after that.

The link a few posts up has all the instructions for the wire trick. I'd suggest reading them and making sure you ask any questions about it before starting.

Also watch this video to help with the timing/technique:
http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-3d-h...c-evo-3d-using-wire-trick-juopunutbear-s-off/

ruckstande · Sep 7, 2013

Thanks. I started reviewing everything and just need to know or the order. Will I every require S On?

Brian706 · Sep 7, 2013

Bootloader unlock
S-off
Custom recovery
Rom flash

S-on will never be required. You can even be completely stock and unrooted but leave s-off.

It's possible to turn it back on, but there's not really any good reason to.

ruckstande · Sep 7, 2013

Juopunutbear screwed me all up. I did S-off last because it said I needed to be rooted and unlocked. I ran ControlBear and got to the Juopunutbear recovery screen but it never found the phone and that really messed me up. I don't know what to do now. I am currently installing the stock rom from the instructions. My wife is going to be pissed.

****NO GOOD, I'm still stuck at the juopunutBear screen. I'm in full panic mode now.

ruckstande · Sep 7, 2013

Just performed a nandroid restore and same deal. What the hell?

Brian706 · Sep 7, 2013

I just triple checked the website. It says bootloader unlocked. Not rooted. In fact it says stock rooted will not work.

That aside, breathe. Trust me, you'll get through this. I fully understand the panic mode, but you are fine.

It sounds like you need to keep attempting the wire trick. Did it ever tell you to start the wire trick? Sorry I'm trying to figure out exactly where you are at. Usually when people are stuck it just means the timing was off and they need to keep trying. But what prompts is command prompt retuning? Also are you using the Ubuntu live cd?

Anyway. You're still recoverable. Just trying to see exactly where you're at.

ruckstande · Sep 7, 2013

Brian706 said:
I just triple checked the website. It says bootloader unlocked. Not rooted. In fact it says stock rooted will not work.

That aside, breathe. Trust me, you'll get through this. I fully understand the panic mode, but you are fine.

It sounds like you need to keep attempting the wire trick. Did it ever tell you to start the wire trick? Sorry I'm trying to figure out exactly where you are at. Usually when people are stuck it just means the timing was off and they need to keep trying. But what prompts is command prompt retuning? Also are you using the Ubuntu live cd?

Anyway. You're still recoverable. Just trying to see exactly where you're at.

I didn't attempt the wire trick. The phone restarted during after some messages came up and I'm stuck a the juopunubear screen with the green arrow.

Now everytime I run controlbear.exe it says connect device and install drivers.

ruckstande · Sep 7, 2013

Windows doesn't recognize my device even being connected.

Brian706 · Sep 8, 2013

You should be able to exit juopunut bear mode with the steps here: http://unlimited.io/jbtroubleshooting.htm

It seems like a driver issue... Which usually is eliminated if using the Ubuntu live cd...

ruckstande · Sep 8, 2013

Brian706 said:
You should be able to exit juopunut bear mode with the steps here: Unlimited.IO

It seems like a driver issue... Which usually is eliminated if using the Ubuntu live cd...

Can I do that with the problem I am having?

ruckstande · Sep 8, 2013

Hazaaa! Got it to boot the Deodexed rom from the instructions. Not sure what to do next.

ruckstande · Sep 8, 2013

Well I got Cool ICS on here but couldn't rub the extra boot flasher for S On. It's still working though surprisingly. I really want S Off for the whole package though. I want to give it another shot later. Thanks again!

xevious · Oct 28, 2013

Speaking of achieving S-Off with JBear and 1.58, I did do that successfully some time ago, but I'm a little puzzled about what care is needed for flashing ROM's.

I understand not all of them are compatible with bootloader version 1.58 (such as PAC MAN), so you need to flash a different bootloader that will be compatible with your intended ROM. But also, I'd read somewhere that in order to flash back to stock, you need to put the bootloader into S-ON mode (after the initial flash, because doing so with the custom ROM will brick the phone). Is that correct? Or can you leave it S-OFF indefinitely?

Brian706 · Oct 28, 2013

xevious said:
Speaking of achieving S-Off with JBear and 1.58, I did do that successfully some time ago, but I'm a little puzzled about what care is needed for flashing ROM's.

I understand not all of them are compatible with bootloader version 1.58 (such as PAC MAN), so you need to flash a different bootloader that will be compatible with your intended ROM. But also, I'd read somewhere that in order to flash back to stock, you need to put the bootloader into S-ON mode (after the initial flash, because doing so with the custom ROM will brick the phone). Is that correct? Or can you leave it S-OFF indefinitely?

For flashing roms, you can flash any ice cream sandwich roms on hboot 1.58. For anything else you need hboot 1.50 or below.

Check out my thread: http://androidforums.com/cdma-evo-...8902-radios-hboot-firmware-all-downloads.html and click "show" in post one for some instructions. Specifically for downgrading the hboot to transition into jellybean from ice cream sandwich.

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xevious · Oct 29, 2013

Brian706 said:
For flashing roms, you can flash any ice cream sandwich roms on hboot 1.58. For anything else you need hboot 1.50 or below.

Check out my thread: http://androidforums.com/cdma-evo-...8902-radios-hboot-firmware-all-downloads.html and click "show" in post one for some instructions. Specifically for downgrading the hboot to transition into jellybean from ice cream sandwich.

Really good to know this--thanks, Brian. So this means that DragonSlayer's post (HERE) is a bit off. The impression I got from it is that 1.58 is needed for Cool ICS but can work for any JB ROM. So, is 1.5 the best to have, for ROM compatibility?

Brian706 · Oct 29, 2013

I certainly haven't tried all of those roms!!

But there are some different mount points between hboot 1.50 (which was for gingerbread) and hboot 1.58 (ICS).

I personally use the stock hboot 1.50.0000 with an unlocked bootloader and s-off. If I wanted a locked bootloader (I suppose for warranty purposes) I would probably use the JuopunutBear 1.50.5050 hboot and keep my bootloader locked.

Anyway... Sorry for rambling.

Some developers do make their ICS rom compatible with both 1.50 and 1.58 hboots, which is a choice, otherwise it would only work with 1.58. But some ICS roms will only work on hboot 1.58 if they did not include that functionality. Dragonslayer hasn't updated the list in awhile but I assume the roms that were compatible with both, still are.

Really, if you flash an incompatible rom, all that happens is it won't boot. Then you need to go back into recovery and wipe everything and flash a different rom from the sd card or restore a backup (which you should make before changing roms ALWAYS!!!

).

All jellybean roms require the downgraded GB hboot, as well as any old gingerbread roms.

So I'd say you have the most selection on hboot 1.50 or juopunutbear 1.50 (makes no difference really) as opposed to 1.58.

On 1.50 you can flash all GB roms, all JB roms and some ICS roms.

On 1.58 you will only be flashing ICS roms.

littlewhiteowl · Jan 8, 2014

I am so thankful for the OP's instructional post here and all of Brian706's posts. Using the info from this thread and a few from elsewhere - this being one of the key ones - I've now upgraded my firmware to JBear 1.5 and am choosing a ROM. I was happy to see that I'm still S-off.

Any suggestions for a sleek, beautiful ROM on which everything is working?

Just a big thank you!

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