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The promise of updates, Sept 15,2013

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You can place widgets and more with Go Locker. You can add an entire screen of widgets to access apps without unlocking your phone. Same with using the camera. This is the screen of widgets. Sorry for the size of the picture. It is the first time using the Android app to post a picture.
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markdoc said:
You can place widgets and more with Go Locker. You can add an entire screen of widgets to access apps without unlocking your phone. Same with using the camera. This is the screen of widgets. Sorry for the size of the picture. It is the first time using the Android app to post a picture.
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Yes, there are 3rd party apps like WidgetLocker and Go Locker that make it easy to add widgets to a lock screen. My point was there doesn't appear to be very much benefit to the 4.2/4.3 OS updates.
 
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Have you checked your settings since the update? The "Fast Boot" option in the "Battery" section may have been turned off during the process. If that's the problem, turning it back on should take care of both the on and off time. (When using "Fast Boot", the phone never completely shuts off. It stays in a hibernation state, so it saves time turning on & shutting off) :)
 
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markdoc said:
Have you checked your settings since the update? The "Fast Boot" option in the "Battery" section may have been turned off during the process. If that's the problem, turning it back on should take care of both the on and off time. (When using "Fast Boot", the phone never completely shuts off. It stays in a hibernation state, so it saves time turning on & shutting off) :)
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Fast boot was off before and after the update. I found it impossible to keep a full charge with the phone off with that feature on. It drained almost as fast off as on with fast boot enabled!
 
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ispamforfood said:
Meh... You know, if VZW really looks at their customers that way, they're going to be in serious trouble... I mean, the real money is in their customers' loyalty.... Give your subscribers good phones and they'll stick with you... Throw a bone to people with older phones so they'll skip switching providers to get a better one somewhere else... Hell, upgrade your software so your tech people don't HAVE to provide support for 100 different versions of Android... on 1000 different phones... Rest assured, if VZW thinks they're saving money letting their higher end phones die of support timeouts, they are making a mistake. Software fragmentation is a nightmare for virtually every hard/software company in existance... Don't make it worse by willingly abandoning phones that are still in broad use.
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Considering Verizon is willing to turn away potential customers/money by not activating new SIM cards so that people can use an LTE Nexus 7's on their network even though it's compatible and they're required to do so under federal regulations, it doesn't exactly say they care about customers. They only care about 2 things, the stability of their network, and profits.
 
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jhawkkw said:
Considering Verizon is willing to turn away potential customers/money by not activating new SIM cards so that people can use an LTE Nexus 7's on their network even though it's compatible and they're required to do so under federal regulations, it doesn't exactly say they care about customers. They only care about 2 things, the stability of their network, and profits.
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I'm not even sure about the stability, to be honest. Every summer my LTE pretty much quits working if I'm within 5 miles of our local tourist-laden beaches. Just yesterday I was in a part of town hosting a big SEC volleyball tournament and the LTE was as slow as I've ever seen it work.

Like any other carrier I get the impression they do the bare minimum to keep existing customers happy, they just happen to have a more robust network in most places compared to the competition.

The Nexus 7 debacle is a good example of that. They claim they're "testing" the device but really, how long should that take? Other carriers let third party devices on with an "as is" caveat but Verizon is a control freak, even when it runs afoul of government regulations. (At the same time, I doubt Jeff Jarvis' complaint to the FCC on this will ever see the light of day.)

ispamforfood said:
Meh... You know, if VZW really looks at their customers that way, they're going to be in serious trouble... I mean, the real money is in their customers' loyalty.... Give your subscribers good phones and they'll stick with you... Throw a bone to people with older phones so they'll skip switching providers to get a better one somewhere else... Hell, upgrade your software so your tech people don't HAVE to provide support for 100 different versions of Android... on 1000 different phones... Rest assured, if VZW thinks they're saving money letting their higher end phones die of support timeouts, they are making a mistake. Software fragmentation is a nightmare for virtually every hard/software company in existance... Don't make it worse by willingly abandoning phones that are still in broad use.
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Loyalty means nothing today. Because of our locked, closed system we're used to getting subsidized phones every two years. This also means people are willing to jump ship every two years to get the best phone for the best deal if need be. There is really zero incentive for ANY carrier to offer updates to old phones. The quicker they fall off the radar, the less support they have to provide.

It's more profitable for the carrier to sell you a new phone with KitKat than to try to jump a phone like the DNA from 4.1 to 4.4. The former nets them an extension of your contract and recurring service payments, the latter costs them money in engineering since they have to put their bloatware on the new software and make sure it doesn't crash.

Verizon has been the best network I've ever been on, with the fastest data. My DNA has been a really wonderful phone despite the SIM card issues and even if it never gets past 4.1.1 it's still a great device to own. But if T-Mobile were to turn on 4G or HSPA+ in my area (currently EDGE only) I'd jump ship in a heartbeat just to get a Nexus or some other cutting edge device. I'd do it because the benefits (lower cost, better updates, better Android selection, comparable data speeds) would outweigh the negatives (signing up for a new carrier, getting a new number, poor indoor & rural coverage.)
 
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CrackedLCD said:
I'll believe it when I see it. We haven't even gotten sense 5+ or 4.2.2... Items they hinted we'd have by now. Why should we believe them on KitKat?
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While I generally agree, 4.4 is a little different because Google is making a big push to get it on as many phones as possible. It was specifically designed to work on older model phones. Google is trying to reduce the fragmentation that Apple likes to use against them.
 
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hilmar2k said:
While I generally agree, 4.4 is a little different because Google is making a big push to get it on as many phones as possible. It was specifically designed to work on older model phones. Google is trying to reduce the fragmentation that Apple likes to use against them.
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If that's the case, I hope they don't scrap the 4.2.2 and 4.3 updates and start over, because we'll be waiting eons for 4.4, not to mention Verizon's slow as molasses testing period. I'd much rather have something new to play with in the interim.
 
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While I still wouldn't hold my breath for any update, I would agree with hilmar2k.
If you read the article on Gadget Insiders, it says,
"Once again, HTC President Jason Mackenzie made the confirmation via Twitter, saying that Android 4.4 KitKat will be rolling out for users of the HTC Droid DNA. While he confirmed that Android 4.4 is indeed good to go for the Droid DNA, he didn't go into specifics,
 
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#49
Interesting that the only thing hinting at 4.2.2 is the swipe down notifications with the toggle switches. I thought 4.2.2 had a few more changes besides that. Everything else appears to pertain to Sense 5.

Most of the stuff the highlighted doesn't really pertain to me, unfortunately. I never call anyone, I have no interest in BlinkFeed and I use Google Calendar and have the stock on disabled. Other than changes to the Gallery and the video snippets thing, it doesn't look like much. I'll definitely turn off GO Launcher and fool around with it a while, though. It's always nice to have something new to play with!
 
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