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[Proposed Solution] Connecting Note II to PC via USB Cable

GuccizBud

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Hi all,

(Note from OP: Can't change thread title, but if I could I would change "solved" to "proposed solution", because that's what this is: a kind of workaround.)

I figured I'd join to post this, if it helps certain people. Only because it's the first post I can't attach images, so references to Figure 1., Figure 2., etc. below are redundant. Not really a problem; they're not really needed.

To the best of my knowledge, the Hardware ID problem when connecting the Note II to a PC via microUSB cable wasn't yet solved; my apologies if it was.

I got it to work on my Rogers i317M model (like at&t) but I've no reason to think it won't work on other models.

The solution is Kies, but not in the way one might think: yes, Kies provides the solution, but to do this you won't actually be using the Kies software—just gonna borrow it a little while :p.

First, install Kies on your PC if it isn't already; it wasn't for me as I never use it normally. You can download it from the support pages of Samsung's website (look for a "useful software" link I think), but goo.gl/h6fwMI is a direct download link to the one I used. Note that it takes its sweet time installing, about three full minutes (which feel like 30 or so) . . . do not have your device connected to the PC during installation.

The key feature we're exploiting here is that Kies will hook your PC up with whatever it needs to have the Note II communicate via USB properly with it. Before stumbling on this method, I had the Samsung drivers installed alright, and all I was getting when connecting was the Hardware ID message, like I know many others do. Note that I did not remove the old Samsung drivers before installing Kies . . . not saying it has to be done that way, just saying that's how I did it.

Once installation is complete, close Kies completely; for me that meant popping open the Windows Task Manager (right-click the taskbar or [Ctrl] [Shift] [Esc]) and manually killing two (2) Kies processes, on top of closing the Kies app window itself of course.

Now try connecting your device with the cable . . . you will probably get a Windows AutoPlay popup . . . go into Default Programs > Autoplay Settings and you should see the phone at the very bottom of the list (Figure 1. attachment) . . . configure it to Open device to view files using Windows Explorer as in the figure.

Now when you connect your phone to your PC, Windows Explorer will pop open a file window, which is what we were looking for, and there should be no sign of the Hardware ID problem. The window that will open will look like Figure 2.—take a look, you'll see it doesn't assign the device a drive letter as expected. Instead, it will show up under Computer as its own device, bearing two "drives": Card and Phone (if there's no external SD card in your device you'll just see Phone). Click Phone and you're ready to go! (see Figure 3.).

Two further considerations:

I don't suggest uninstalling the Kies software afterward. I set about doing so (using Revo Uninstaller) to see if I would still be able to connect, and the first popup I got said "Uninstall SAMSUNG USB Driver for Mobile Phones?" That didn't sound encouraging, so I aborted it, and for now I suggest leaving Kies installed, at least until and unless someone tries it and reports back with a verdict.

As a followup to the previous point (a consolation prize, you might say :rolleyes:), you can prevent Kies from starting up every time you boot your computer, so that, even though installed, it will be inactive and out of the way. You need a startup manager of some kind. Windows has its own somewhere—msconfig maybe—but I used the one in the Auslogics
 
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Or you could save some time and download the same drivers from the Samsung site and install them. The newer phones have a problem with the older drivers.
Naw man, that's too easy. Where's the fun in that? :)

Seriously, I'm gonna try to determine what version drivers I had before (when the Hardware ID problem was present) and what version Kies installed, because you're saying that it wasn't working before simply because it wasn't the right version of those drivers, and I can confirm that when I first installed them I had made it a point to find the most recent I could find. That does NOT guarantee they were in fact the latest—that's why I really want to find out now—but they certainly weren't ancient. That's why I wrote off just installing the drivers as workable; that, along with the fact that when I Googled the Hardware ID problem, there were thread links to several Android forums about the same problem.

EDIT: The drivers the PC is using right now when I connect the phone are:

Provider: Samsung
Date: 2013-08-04
Version: 2.11.1.0

These must be the ones Kies installed of course. Don't know if I can confirm the identity of the previous ones without killing these ones though.
 
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Won't be able to confirm the identity of the old ones.

Ok... let's go with the benefit of the doubt and say the previous ones, while not old, were still too old for the Note II... like maybe something from early-to-mid-2012 let's say, just before the Note II was released. And the others who had this problem had it (or still have it) for a similar reason.

One final question then, to close this out: if you read my OP you know there are differences between the way this phone connects to the PC and the way older generation phones like my old SGS-i9000 did it; these differences can be summarized as :

(old) tap "copy files" in status bar
(new) no more, gone

(old) tap to "turn on" USB
(new) no more, gone

(old) PC assigns drive letters to map 'Phone' and 'Card' files
(new) Connects as standalone device (like an mp3 player for eg.) bearing two "drives" named 'Phone' and 'Card'

(old) PC had no problem mapping filenames starting with a dot (.) like hidden files on Android
(new) no file whose name begins with a dot (.) appears in the mapping

What I'd like to know is if everybody who's successfully connecting their Note II to a PC via USB is seeing the same thing I am, i.e. is getting all the above? I'd really like to hear from a couple of people... at least!
 
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When I plugged my wifes Note 2 into the computer, the drivers auto installed, then a window popped up:
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The device dropdown gave me the option, "Connected as a media device" "Touch for other usb options".

I see on the computer, 2 "drives" named "card" and "phone" as you did.


I am unclear on what you mean by:
no file whose name begins with a dot (.) appears in the mapping

Does that help at all? :D
 
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Yes, thx dude... it confirms that I'm not the only one in the world getting all that... unfortunately I don't personally know someone with a Note II as of yet.

I got the same thing you got at the beginning... auto-installed the drivers and everything. But then when would connect the phone I'd get the Hardware ID problem I mentioned, that makes it impossible to connect the two (try Googling "hardware id missing"). I guess the Verizon version of the Note II doesn't have that problem, based on your post... mine's the Rogers version (virtually identical to AT&T version).

After 3 years of connect my old SGS i9000 via OS-assigned drive letters, I didn't know if the way I was finally able to connect was the norm or a fluke :)

Thx again dude. I'll let this one sleep (collective sigh) :rolleyes:
 
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> LATER <

Did it:

- uninstalled anything Samsung (drivers, Kies)
- found & downloaded v1.4.6.0 drivers
- rebooted
- severed internet connx
- installed v1.4.6.0 drivers
- reestablished internet connx

The end result is pretty much identical to what the Kies proc in the OP did, with the exception of course that there's no dormant Kies installed :p

Still glad I did this, because I learned from it; I hadn't realized before that, if connecting the phone while there's a live internet connx, it is actually irrelevant which drivers you found and installed, simply because Windows will live search for the ones it thinks you should be using! So the whole trick is simply to sever the connx while installing the ones you want Windows to use.

To consider...

... wouldn't the fact that the end result is virtually the same as the end result from doing the original procedure (OP) indicate that the very latest Samsung drivers do, in fact, work for the Note II
 

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Mikestony,

Understandable, it isn't obvious at first!

Once in the Windows Device Manager, the USB-related stuff is at the bottom, but you have to expand the group to see what's in it. When you do, you'll no doubt see the Samsung driver... check out the attached image from my desktop.

Then you:

 

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Hello

I'm really struggling with this issue; I have a Samsung Note II and when I connect it to my Lenova Yoga 2 laptop using a cable, it won't recognise it!

I'm working my way through the various solutions offered on the internet and so far none of them have worked:

Windows 10 nannying won't allow me to install Kies - despite doing everything directed; properties to disable the issue it brings up, Windows still refuses to allow me to install it claiming it's not safe (FFS!!), I've tried running as administrator but I keep coming upon the problem that I just don't have some parts of the clickables that others seem too.

I've tried to install drivers directly to the mobile and twice it's said it's unable to do so ....

I've followed everything I can find on the Microsoft website and I've contacted live chat who took 15 mins over establishing what the issue was - usb not recognized, despite me informing them in my initial contact - and then suggested I tried a different cable : (((

Samsung live chat fobbed me off because they only deal with US mobile phones locked onto carriers whereas I am in the UK.

Please help.
 
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