iPhone 6 vs Galaxy S5 (and Android)

bjacks12 · Sep 24, 2014

Brian706 said:
So, about those bent phones... Read some of the comments at Mac Rumors. It's pretty funny seeing people defend this flaw. Blaming users for, GASP!, putting a phone in their front pocket.

They're also defending the 8.0.1 disabling of data and touchID.
I've been seeing comments from people saying you can get on just fine using WiFi to call and your pin to unlock the phone. So I guess the most LTE bands and the TouchID weren't as important as they said?

Gmash · Sep 25, 2014

kathayes said:
I have bounced back and forth, having had the original Droid, original Droid Incredible, iPhone 4S, Note2, and now Note3. I am also a Mac user. I'm mostly platform agnostic. I want the tool that best meets my needs. I have gone back and forth and even made a spreadsheet listing the pros and cons of the going with a Note4 vs the iPhone+. The iPhone has caught up with a lot of the missing features that Android has offered, though it is still lacking in some ways, though going with the iPhone offers incredible synergy for Mac OS users.

There are huge features I will lose out on either way if I go iOS or stay Android. I wish it was not so difficult to get one device that meets my needs. I narrowed it down to two main features that I NEED, not just want, there is a long list of wants that I am not including: 1. tethering and 2. a good camera

the Note3 camera has been awful for me, without good lighting outdoors my pictures are worthless. i need a good camera and can not carry my dslr all the time. the iPhone will not allow me to use unlimited data for tethering unless i jailbreak it, which i'm not sure i'd want to do, even when it becomes available.

if the note4 camera is good in low light, I will be happy and stay android. if it is as bad as i read some complain the s5 is with low light....i will likely get iPhone6+

the decision for me -- what is more important, having access to internet on my notebook wherever I am (hugely important) or having a once in a lifetime opportunity to take a photo of a newborn and finding that the photo looks like it some historical footage from the moon landing in the 60's? this is why I might end up going with the better camera over tethering and go iOS...

This might be of interest...

iPhone 6 vs Galaxy S5: Camera Comparison

lunatic59 · Sep 25, 2014

Gmash said:
This might be of interest...

iPhone 6 vs Galaxy S5: Camera Comparison

I'm pretty much in agreement with the review. While the iPhone maintains color integrity more accurately, the (deliberate) S5 "enhancements" are often an improvement for snapshots. What surprised me is that the S5 performed better in low light situations. I'd really like to see some more comparison on that, like indoor natural light situations. It's almost always been the case that iPhones excelled in that arena.

Sure, we'd all like a Nikon D4 in our pocket, but given the tiny sensor capturing 16 MP, these cameras do an incredible job. Either way, the differences don't seem to be enough to sway a decision either way. :dontknow:

lunatic59 · Sep 25, 2014

bjacks12 said:
They're also defending the 8.0.1 disabling of data and touchID.
I've been seeing comments from people saying you can get on just fine using WiFi to call and your pin to unlock the phone. So I guess the most LTE bands and the TouchID weren't as important as they said?

So the lesson to take out of this? Don't buy even numbered iPhones. (The 4's antennagate

).

mikedt · Sep 25, 2014

BBC: "bendgate" haha

lunatic59 · Sep 25, 2014

mikedt said:
BBC: "bendgate" haha

Yeah, I heard that once or twice, two. Considering Nixon resigned more than 40 years ago (and died 20 years ago) you'd think the media would be able to find a replacement reference to Watergate. Poor guy, his legacy is urban slang. :rolleyes:

kathayes · Sep 25, 2014

I honestly do not know what to believe, here is a review from Gizmodo that seems to contradict the Phandroid one
The Best Smartphone Camera: iPhone 6 Edition

I didn't have a chance to read either of the two reviews, I went straight to the low light sections to see what they had to say about low light. The Gizmodo one seemed to say the iPhone was better than the S5 All I know is the Note3 got glowing camera reviews, and for the past year it has been unusable without excellent lighting. This makes me question all reviews, could bias be introduced into these reviews? Who knows? What I would love to see is reviews like these by photographers and not just techies, unless the techies doing these review also happen to be photographers... About an hour ago I tried to shoot video of my newborn with available lighting in my room and it is very grainy and lacking detail.....

I just read about Shamu yesterday, now I might wait to see how that phone is and how the camera is....

Gmash said:
This might be of interest...

iPhone 6 vs Galaxy S5: Camera Comparison

bjacks12 · Sep 25, 2014

So what shall we call the 8.0.1 fiasco?

iPodGate?
UpGate?
TouchGate?
SignalGate?

mikedt · Sep 25, 2014

lunatic59 said:
Yeah, I heard that once or twice, two. Considering Nixon resigned more than 40 years ago (and died 20 years ago) you'd think the media would be able to find a replacement reference to Watergate. Poor guy, his legacy is urban slang.

OT: Nixon is the only President who's in the Chinese school textbooks. :thumbup:

bjacks12 · Sep 25, 2014

I really feel bad for the guy. There have been way worse presidential scandals over the last 20 or so years that haven't been reacted to near as harshly.

lunatic59 · Sep 25, 2014

bjacks12 said:
I really feel bad for the guy. There have been way worse presidential scandals over the last 20 or so years that haven't been reacted to near as harshly.

The iPhone-Contra Affair has a nice ring to it.

bjacks12 · Sep 25, 2014

lunatic59 said:
The iPhone-Contra Affair has a nice ring to it.

LOL!

I like Bendghazi myself.

zipred · Sep 25, 2014

Ready... Set...

iPhone 6 Plus vs Note 3

It's The Bend Test Shootout!

Does the iPhone 6 Plus really bend? New video shows yes | BGR

AnonGuy · Sep 25, 2014

kathayes said:
I honestly do not know what to believe, here is a review from Gizmodo that seems to contradict the Phandroid one
The Best Smartphone Camera: iPhone 6 Edition

I didn't have a chance to read either of the two reviews, I went straight to the low light sections to see what they had to say about low light. The Gizmodo one seemed to say the iPhone was better than the S5 All I know is the Note3 got glowing camera reviews, and for the past year it has been unusable without excellent lighting. This makes me question all reviews, could bias be introduced into these reviews? Who knows? What I would love to see is reviews like these by photographers and not just techies, unless the techies doing these review also happen to be photographers... About an hour ago I tried to shoot video of my newborn with available lighting in my room and it is very grainy and lacking detail.....

I just read about Shamu yesterday, now I might wait to see how that phone is and how the camera is....

iPhone camera id consistent and performs well. Note 3 would have been good if Samsung used bigger pixels and only 8 to 10 MP. You can make it faster by shooting at 8-9.6 MP instead of 13 (it's why the default is 9.6) but they did something with the processing that hurt it in low light. The S4 is both faster and better than the Note 3 in low light used side by side, and with a weaker SoC but same sensor and ISP.

Medion · Sep 25, 2014

kathayes said:
I honestly do not know what to believe, here is a review from Gizmodo that seems to contradict the Phandroid one
The Best Smartphone Camera: iPhone 6 Edition

There are so many variations that you simply need to look at every comparison that you can find. From there, look at HOW they compared the cameras and find situations that best match how you use your camera.

Last year the S4 got rave reviews for its camera, but the Moto X was universally panned. I ended up getting both phones, and for my usage the Moto X beats the S4.

However, I've found that, while I like the Phandroid crew, they generally don't do well with camera reviews and comparisons.

zipred · Sep 25, 2014

In my world there's always something to be grateful for.

Today I celebrated the robust structural rigidity of my Nexus 5, no worries about bending this gem

AnonGuy · Sep 26, 2014

Medion said:
There are so many variations that you simply need to look at every comparison that you can find. From there, look at HOW they compared the cameras and find situations that best match how you use your camera.

Last year the S4 got rave reviews for its camera, but the Moto X was universally panned. I ended up getting both phones, and for my usage the Moto X beats the S4.

However, I've found that, while I like the Phandroid crew, they generally don't do well with camera reviews and comparisons.

Have a Droid Maxx here and the Note 3 is clearly the better camera. The Maxx has the same camera, or very similar to the X. It's not a great camera, not even in broad daylight compared to the Note.

The S4 is better in low light than the Note 3 is, actually. In daylight it will beat the X every time as well. The X does not focus as well and the images are noisier with worse colors.

Motorola's bare camera software also didnt help the X...

As for the iPhones the cameras are good because the optics are good and the ISP and camera software backing the optics are great. They also don't needlessly increase resolution so the it cameras get even faster as they update their devices since the ISP can process 8MP images so swiftly.

I get faster shooting and processing on my note by using the default 9.6 over 13MP and that's part of the reason why Samsung sets that as a default. Sony also limited resolution in many modes of the Z2, likely for the same reason and some phones will do burst shots at a lower resolution for that exact reason (it's how the S3 did burst - at 6MP or so IIRC).

In a controlled test the S4 will beat the X any day even though the X does bring in more light in low light situations (when not using Low Light Mode on the S4).

bjacks12 · Sep 26, 2014

iOS 8.0.2 is out today.

It includes such innovative new features as:

1) TouchID
2) Uses previously built-in cellular radios to send and receive data, calls, and texts to towers already put in place by carriers.

iOS 8.0.2 is out, with fixes for TouchID and Cellular on iPhone 6/6+, and keyboard fixes for all devices : iphone

bjacks12 · Sep 26, 2014

dan330 · Sep 27, 2014

Bendgate.. Jealous much?

Android fans are so biased..
Bragging about your customization.. And new curved screens.

Only apple's real innovation brings... Customized curved screens/phone.
Genius?... I say... Hell yeah

mikedt · Sep 27, 2014

dan330 said:
Bendgate.. Jealous much?

Android fans are so biased..
Bragging about your customization.. And new curved screens.

Only apple's real innovation brings... Customized curved screens/phone.
Genius?... I say... Hell yeah

FYI I've only heard "bendgate" from the BBC. Jealous? Android fans? BBC are not those.

My problem with the iPhone, especially the 6 Plus, it's just that it's just too expensive for what you get. But I then I don't buy Gucci shoes or Armani suits either. I'm not that rich. Main problem being there's no carrier subsidies available, and are paying a premium price because the iPhones like most Apple products are luxury.

AnonGuy · Sep 27, 2014

mikedt said:
FYI I've only heard "bendgate" from the BBC. Jealous? Android fans? BBC are not those.

My problem with the iPhone, especially the 6 Plus, it's just that it's just too expensive for what you get. But I then I don't buy Gucci shoes or Armani suits either. I'm not that rich. Main problem being there's no carrier subsidies available, and are paying a premium price because the iPhones like most Apple products are luxury.

How much it's worth depends on how much value you put in what Apple delivers. Same for Android, Windows Phone, and BlackBerry.

mikedt · Sep 28, 2014

AnonGuy said:
How much it's worth depends on how much value you put in what Apple delivers. Same for Android, Windows Phone, and BlackBerry.

It also depends on where you are, in the US and the UK, the iPhones like Androids, Windows and Blackberrys are available with heavy carrier subsidies, and so are easily affordable by most people.

In this country I've just learned that the 6 Plus is going to be $1300 equivalent, and the top-end 128GB is a whopping $2000. I don't care what anyone says, that's a lot of money for a smartphone. I don't wear $2000 shoes either, or other designer luxury items.

Given that I only paid $400 equivalent for an Oppo F7, which has a better specs than the iPhone 6, plus I don't have to be dealing with iTunes for Windows. The Oppo probably better constructed as well, it uses titanium rather than aluminium for the frame and chassis, so at least shouldn't bend quite so easily. LOL.

Mind you there's luxury Android smartphones as well that cost well into four figures, like Vertu and Porsche Design.

Slug · Sep 28, 2014

mikedt said:
It also depends on where you are, in the US and the UK, the iPhones like Androids, Windows and Blackberrys are available with heavy carrier subsidies, and so are easily affordable by most people.

Let's look at UK handset-only prices then.

The 16GB iPhone 6 is available direct from Apple for

Medion · Sep 28, 2014

Slug said:
Let's look at UK handset-only prices then.

The 16GB iPhone 6 is available direct from Apple for

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