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Restoring Performance Galaxy S5 SM-G900V

cmayo

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My seven-year-old Galaxy S5 (Android 6.0.1) would be perfectly adequate for my needs if it still ran like it did when new, but for the past couple of years, it's been running very, very slowly, almost to the point of being non-responsive. Running an app killer will restore performance for a little while but when I pick it up an hour or two later, it's nearly comatose again.

I've heard tales of Apple intentionally crippling older phones; does that happen with older Samsung Galaxies?

I've looked into rooting the device hoping to strip out all the bloatware but have never found a root procedure for my S5 SM-G900V. Some S5's seem to be rootable but my model was always a problem, and I don't know if rooting would help anyway.

I suspect I'm just stuck with it but wanted to ask here if anyone had any ideas for squeezing a few more years use out of this phone. Upgrading to a new flagship is out of the question for me, though I could probably manage a lower-range phone like a Straight Talk A32 if I knew I'd be any better off.

Any helpful thoughts?
 
It's been several years since I had my S5...I really wish I still did. You might give Package Disabler pro. a try. To stop unneeded apps.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pdp.deviceowner

I used the old, device specific, app with good results.

Keep in mind that any apps that you use are more likely to use more than the ones that were made for the older version of android.
 
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My seven-year-old Galaxy S5 (Android 6.0.1) would be perfectly adequate for my needs if it still ran like it did when new, but for the past couple of years, it's been running very, very slowly, almost to the point of being non-responsive. Running an app killer will restore performance for a little while but when I pick it up an hour or two later, it's nearly comatose again.

I've heard tales of Apple intentionally crippling older phones; does that happen with older Samsung Galaxies?

I've looked into rooting the device hoping to strip out all the bloatware but have never found a root procedure for my S5 SM-G900V. Some S5's seem to be rootable but my model was always a problem, and I don't know if rooting would help anyway.

I suspect I'm just stuck with it but wanted to ask here if anyone had any ideas for squeezing a few more years use out of this phone. Upgrading to a new flagship is out of the question for me, though I could probably manage a lower-range phone like a Straight Talk A32 if I knew I'd be any better off.

Any helpful thoughts?
I am afraid that your Galaxy S5 is now almost 8 years old and is the worse for being made so soon as my dear old granny would say.

By today's standards, 2GB of RAM is very low indeed and means that your device is having to constantly swap apps around to make the best use of it. Also, the Snapdragon 801 is an old quad core chipset that will not process as quickly as the latest models.

I still have my S5 but have had to pension it off, even though it is rooted and running a Lineage ROM, because it just cannot cope with the newer versions of apps and features. You will find it nigh on impossible to root and install a custom ROM because of the mega locked down bootloader that Verizon imposed on their models. See #1.6 of...

42 Galaxy S5 models - Dummies Guide

The Galaxy A32 5G that you mention is a very good choice indeed and I would thoroughly recommend it as a replacement.
 
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Apple's "intentional crippling" was always described as an attempt to extend the life of a failing battery by reducing peak performance - I can't tell you whether that's true or not (companies never admit to bad behaviour), but it's not completely implausible as a motivation. Of course giving people a "battery saving mode" that they could choose to turn on would be a better solution, but Apple do tend towards paternalism.

I've no reason to believe that Samsung deliberately reduce the performance of their phones, but there are several factors to consider here:
1) you are now running Android 6, which is a heavier OS than the Android 4.4 that phone was released with
2) apps have spent the intervening years getting bigger and more resource-hungry, no matter what OS you are running
3) Samsung's "TouchWiz" software never had the reputation of being the best optimised
4) how is your battery? If that is weakening (or is already a lower-quality replacement) it's not impossible that is a factor

So what can you do? I'd not bother with task killers. It might be that you could improve things by cleaning out some of the crud, including wiping the system cache from recovery mode or even backing up, doing a factory reset and only reinstalling what you need (a factory reset will do nothing to the operating system, but will clear out old data that have been left cluttering up the space). If your phone was rootable then installing a lighter custom ROM might help, but a Verizon model will be the most locked-down version there was back in 2014 so I can quite believe that isn't possible (sadly VZW also had the worst reputation for adding bloatware, which Samsung didn't exactly skimp on themselves). I don't think you'll be able to roll it back to the earlier firmware, but I'd not recommend that anyway: you are likely to hit problems with apps no longer working on 4.4 (actually there will already be apps that don't work on 6, and at some point that may force you to look at a newer phone no matter what else you do).

So what would I do? I'd consider a reset, I'd certainly go through disabling any pre-installed app I was able to and which I didn't need (make sure you know what they actually do first, but it shouldn't let you disable things that would actually break the phone). I'd probably uninstall unnecessary user apps as well. If you have been moving apps to SD that won't improve performance, though if it's the old Android 2 style move to SD that would mainly affect load times (the "adoptive storage" introduced in Android 6, but which Samsung exclude from most of their phones, can slow things more noticeably). And maybe look for lighter-weight versions of apps (modern versions of things like browsers can be very large indeed).

And having done that I'd see whether the result was tolerable, or whether it was time to buy a new phone.
 
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I would focus more on getting a new or newer phone than on pointless conspiracy matters -- i.e. the Apple incident was a very selective one and just old news, not unlike the silly rumors about Samsung is failing because of its Note 7 battery incident (i.e. smartphones are just a small part of its business and it's still selling the largest market share of phones). Also a selective matter and old news.
But here in the real world, it's still a matter where a dated phone like your S5 has just aged to the point where its usability has diminished. Google stopped supporting it a long time ago, most app developers too so even the apps on it are in question, and basically there are hardware limitations that will make even third-party ROMs more about just having a phone that boots up than a phone that's actually usable as a daily usage phone again.
Today's Internet has devolved into a toxic mix of really useful online services and countless compromises so using any outdated mobile device involves an increased amount of risk. Keep that in mind as you want to keep using your S5, and be extra careful about anything and everything you do online.
As for getting another Samsung phone as an upgrade, Samsung does make some really good hardware, and some of the alterations it makes to the base Android operating system it installs on its products appeal to a lot of people, but there's also a lot of Samsung branding that adds a lot of bloat too. Buy another Samsung because you want to stay within Samsung's oversight, but I'd suggest you look into something like a Pixel phone for a clean Android device, or a OnePlus or Moto phone that will be have a minimum amount of added cruft and bloat. There are plenty of good, usable, reliable phones that aren't flagship models.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-budget-android-phone/
 
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Remember that cellular tech is changing rapidly, and it very well may be that old of a device may soon not even link to a cell tower.

Also, that old thing will still work fine on wi-fi, so you don't need to trash it yet.

You can choose to reset it, sure, but that will erase everything on it.
I have never done thst to a device, as I have (so far) always found what the cause of issues was.

As suggested above, ditch unused apps.
Don't put apps on the SD card.
Disable anything Google and bloatware that you can.
Bring unused system apps back to the original versions to save space and resourses.
(I can help more with this if needed.)
Dump the task killers, anti-virus apps, boosters, coolers, battery savers, and anything like that.
Use your browser to access social media, so that you can ditch those apps as well.

Get a firewall, a VPN, and a reliable cleaner.

Here are specific apps and sites that I use to keep old (and newer) devices alive:

https://en.uptodown.com/
https://greenify.en.uptodown.com/android
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/acr.browser.lightning/
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/theredspy15.ltecleanerfoss/
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/
https://noroot-firewall.en.uptodown.com/android
https://nova-launcher.en.uptodown.com/android
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/ch.protonvpn.android/
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/rkr.simplekeyboard.inputmethod/
https://systweak-android-cleaner.en.uptodown.com/android/download/1633705
https://appcontrol.neocities.org/index_en.html
https://app.degoo.com/files/11492908527
https://www.simplemobiletools.com/

Dont allow the Systweak Cleaner to be updated, as the new versions have ads.
 
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It's been several years since I had my S5...I really wish I still did. You might give Package Disabler pro. a try. To stop unneeded apps.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pdp.deviceowner

I used the old, device specific, app with good results.

Keep in mind that any apps that you use are more likely to use more than the ones that were made for the older version of android.

Package Disabler Pro helped quite a lot, though it's too soon (12+ hrs) to tell if that performance gain will last. The app installation requires removing all accounts from the phone (Google, Facebook,etc.) and once I'd pulled my two Google accounts, the phone pepped up considerably. I went ahead and disabled all the obvious bloatware and added back the deleted accounts and while I was at it, shut off Sync for most of the Google elements.

Fingers crossed, but I'm hopeful!
 
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[...] By today's standards, 2GB of RAM is very low indeed and means that your device is having to constantly swap apps around to make the best use of it. Also, the Snapdragon 801 is an old quad core chipset that will not process as quickly as the latest models.

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The Galaxy A32 5G that you mention is a very good choice indeed and I would thoroughly recommend it as a replacement.

Thanks for endorsing the A32! I've had this phone in my shopping cart on multiple occasions but never pulled the trigger. Now that I know it would be an improvement over my S5, I'll probably take the plunge next time I'm shopping!
 
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Apple's "intentional crippling" was always described as an attempt to extend the life of a failing battery by reducing peak performance - I can't tell you whether that's true or not (companies never admit to bad behaviour), but it's not completely implausible as a motivation. Of course giving people a "battery saving mode" that they could choose to turn on would be a better solution, but Apple do tend towards paternalism.

I've no reason to believe that Samsung deliberately reduce the performance of their phones, but there are several factors to consider here:
1) you are now running Android 6, which is a heavier OS than the Android 4.4 that phone was released with
2) apps have spent the intervening years getting bigger and more resource-hungry, no matter what OS you are running
3) Samsung's "TouchWiz" software never had the reputation of being the best optimised
4) how is your battery? If that is weakening (or is already a lower-quality replacement) it's not impossible that is a factor

So what can you do? I'd not bother with task killers. It might be that you could improve things by cleaning out some of the crud, including wiping the system cache from recovery mode or even backing up, doing a factory reset and only reinstalling what you need (a factory reset will do nothing to the operating system, but will clear out old data that have been left cluttering up the space). If your phone was rootable then installing a lighter custom ROM might help, but a Verizon model will be the most locked-down version there was back in 2014 so I can quite believe that isn't possible (sadly VZW also had the worst reputation for adding bloatware, which Samsung didn't exactly skimp on themselves). I don't think you'll be able to roll it back to the earlier firmware, but I'd not recommend that anyway: you are likely to hit problems with apps no longer working on 4.4 (actually there will already be apps that don't work on 6, and at some point that may force you to look at a newer phone no matter what else you do).

So what would I do? I'd consider a reset, I'd certainly go through disabling any pre-installed app I was able to and which I didn't need (make sure you know what they actually do first, but it shouldn't let you disable things that would actually break the phone). I'd probably uninstall unnecessary user apps as well. If you have been moving apps to SD that won't improve performance, though if it's the old Android 2 style move to SD that would mainly affect load times (the "adoptive storage" introduced in Android 6, but which Samsung exclude from most of their phones, can slow things more noticeably). And maybe look for lighter-weight versions of apps (modern versions of things like browsers can be very large indeed).

And having done that I'd see whether the result was tolerable, or whether it was time to buy a new phone.

Apple's throttling to improve battery on old sealed phones made sense (of course it also drove users to replace their aging handsets with shiny, expensive new ones), but would make less sense on the S5 since the battery is user-replaceable. Good points, too, about apps getting hungrier as time passes. I reset the phone a few months ago and things improved for a while. I'm giving Package Disabler Pro a try now and things are better, but time will tell if they stay that way.
 
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[...]As for getting another Samsung phone as an upgrade, Samsung does make some really good hardware, and some of the alterations it makes to the base Android operating system it installs on its products appeal to a lot of people, but there's also a lot of Samsung branding that adds a lot of bloat too. Buy another Samsung because you want to stay within Samsung's oversight, but I'd suggest you look into something like a Pixel phone for a clean Android device, or a OnePlus or Moto phone that will be have a minimum amount of added cruft and bloat. There are plenty of good, usable, reliable phones that aren't flagship models.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-budget-android-phone/

When I've considered replacing the phone, I've looked into other brands and models but haven't been sure enough that any alternate device would bring a lasting improvement. I've looked at Pixel and Android One and have really liked the idea of a more generic device... I may go that direction if/when purchasing a new phone becomes unavoidable.
 
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Apple's "intentional crippling" was always described as an attempt to extend the life of a failing battery by reducing peak performance - I can't tell you whether that's true or not (companies never admit to bad behaviour), but it's not completely implausible as a motivation. Of course giving people a "battery saving mode" that they could choose to turn on would be a better solution, but Apple do tend towards paternalism.

I've no reason to believe that Samsung deliberately reduce the performance of their phones, but there are several factors to consider here:
1) you are now running Android 6, which is a heavier OS than the Android 4.4 that phone was released with
2) apps have spent the intervening years getting bigger and more resource-hungry, no matter what OS you are running
3) Samsung's "TouchWiz" software never had the reputation of being the best optimised
4) how is your battery? If that is weakening (or is already a lower-quality replacement) it's not impossible that is a factor

So what can you do? I'd not bother with task killers. It might be that you could improve things by cleaning out some of the crud, including wiping the system cache from recovery mode or even backing up, doing a factory reset and only reinstalling what you need (a factory reset will do nothing to the operating system, but will clear out old data that have been left cluttering up the space). If your phone was rootable then installing a lighter custom ROM might help, but a Verizon model will be the most locked-down version there was back in 2014 so I can quite believe that isn't possible (sadly VZW also had the worst reputation for adding bloatware, which Samsung didn't exactly skimp on themselves). I don't think you'll be able to roll it back to the earlier firmware, but I'd not recommend that anyway: you are likely to hit problems with apps no longer working on 4.4 (actually there will already be apps that don't work on 6, and at some point that may force you to look at a newer phone no matter what else you do).

So what would I do? I'd consider a reset, I'd certainly go through disabling any pre-installed app I was able to and which I didn't need (make sure you know what they actually do first, but it shouldn't let you disable things that would actually break the phone). I'd probably uninstall unnecessary user apps as well. If you have been moving apps to SD that won't improve performance, though if it's the old Android 2 style move to SD that would mainly affect load times (the "adoptive storage" introduced in Android 6, but which Samsung exclude from most of their phones, can slow things more noticeably). And maybe look for lighter-weight versions of apps (modern versions of things like browsers can be very large indeed).

And having done that I'd see whether the result was tolerable, or whether it was time to buy a new phone.
Verizon software is extremely bloated and has no resemblance to stock Samsung firmware as indicated in the dummies guide to the S5 as opposed to Tmobile or Sprint.
 
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I would focus more on getting a new or newer phone than on pointless conspiracy matters -- i.e. the Apple incident was a very selective one and just old news, not unlike the silly rumors about Samsung is failing because of its Note 7 battery incident (i.e. smartphones are just a small part of its business and it's still selling the largest market share of phones). Also a selective matter and old news.
But here in the real world, it's still a matter where a dated phone like your S5 has just aged to the point where its usability has diminished. Google stopped supporting it a long time ago, most app developers too so even the apps on it are in question, and basically there are hardware limitations that will make even third-party ROMs more about just having a phone that boots up than a phone that's actually usable as a daily usage phone again.
Today's Internet has devolved into a toxic mix of really useful online services and countless compromises so using any outdated mobile device involves an increased amount of risk. Keep that in mind as you want to keep using your S5, and be extra careful about anything and everything you do online.
As for getting another Samsung phone as an upgrade, Samsung does make some really good hardware, and some of the alterations it makes to the base Android operating system it installs on its products appeal to a lot of people, but there's also a lot of Samsung branding that adds a lot of bloat too. Buy another Samsung because you want to stay within Samsung's oversight, but I'd suggest you look into something like a Pixel phone for a clean Android device, or a OnePlus or Moto phone that will be have a minimum amount of added cruft and bloat. There are plenty of good, usable, reliable phones that aren't flagship models.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-budget-android-phone/
Verizon and ATT added a lot of bloat to older Samsung phones
 
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