What are the odds of Android 2.2 (Froyo) on the Galaxy?

Hark · Jun 10, 2010

I don't think there's any, but if there is any chance of Samsung ever doing anything it'd be through carrier pressure, not user pressure. They don't even answer us when we email. People should be postng on the t-mobile forum for the Behold "where is my update, myTouch is getting it...". Maybe if enough people did that (and us as well why not) something would happen. Moaning on this forum (and the Behold forum on here) isn't going to be seen by anyone. Only a concerted effort in the right place could have a hope of changing things.

Probably still a waste of time and Drakaz is our only hope, but still might be worth a shot, what do people think? Now when this myTouch update has been announced seems the best time (and last chance) to me.

pikacz · Jun 10, 2010

Hark said:
People should be postng on the t-mobile forum for the Behold "where is my update, myTouch is getting it...". Maybe if enough people did that (and us as well why not) something would happen.

i already tried to get some people from this forum to mail samsung and i encountered mediocre enthusiasm, so i guess only i mailed them then, the conversation is somewhere on this forum, search my posts if you want

DaSchmarotzer · Jun 10, 2010

pikacz said:
i already tried to get some people from this forum to mail samsung and i encountered mediocre enthusiasm, so i guess only i mailed them then, the conversation is somewhere on this forum, search my posts if you want

Yeah, we pretty much gave up.

I mailed them too, but that was when 2.1 came out.

(And by gave up I mean from Samsung, because we have good devs working right now!)

Hark · Jun 10, 2010

Maybe I didn't word things clearly. I agree emailing Samsung is a waste of time. Posting on the T-Mobile website however might make something happen. They seem to care a bit about customer service and won't want lots of negative posts all over their forums. If we all claimed to be Behold II users who are angry that myTouch is getting Froyo and we're not (together with genuine Behold users) there might be enough noise for them to push Samsung, cos we sure as hell cannot.

Looking at their forum earlier there was just one post about it hidden away, if there were 100 - 200- - - 500 posts who knows...

DaSchmarotzer · Jun 10, 2010

Hark said:
Maybe I didn't word things clearly. I agree emailing Samsung is a waste of time. Posting on the T-Mobile website however might make something happen. They seem to care a bit about customer service and won't want lots of negative posts all over their forums. If we all claimed to be Behold II users who are angry that myTouch is getting Froyo and we're not (together with genuine Behold users) there might be enough noise for them to push Samsung, cos we sure as hell cannot.

Looking at their forum earlier there was just one post about it hidden away, if there were 100 - 200- - - 500 posts who knows...

Well, I don't know much about carriers, but I did try emailing mine a few times (Bell Mobility). I even told them that I bought the phone because it would get 2.x updates.

They answered that it was not their fault, the manufacturer should do the updates, they don't have any information.

In short, they don't give a crap. But it's true, they don't have much power toward Samsung. You think that T-mobile has that kind of power?

Hark · Jun 10, 2010

Carriers seem more bothered about loosing customers than manufacturers do. If they had even 100 people on their forums complaining and saying "I'm never getting a phone with t-mobile" again then not only are they loosing 100 customers others will read the posts and might well stay away. That's the kind of publicity they don't want. So yeah, it might make them push Samsung or if nothing else offer their customers a different phone (I know i'd be happy to get a newer Android phone and put this Samsung nightmare behind me if my provider offered me one).

Indeed I just emailed o2 asking for that. My main grump was the bugs (yesterday I had the dialpad bug meaning I couldn't get through to the department I wanted) and said that was the last of a long list of bugs with this phone and I want to exchange it. I didn't even mention Froyo, etc it's not like they promised that, but bugs are another matter. I'm not too hopeful but worth a shot.

EnderMB · Jun 11, 2010

I think that Samsung aren't going to develop any new updates for the i7500, but they could always help out the GAOSP by providing what code and hardware details they have in order to make it easier for open source developers to make the updates.

Perhaps it would be a good idea to ask one of the firmware representatives to contact Samsung with such a proposal. That way they can go from horrible customer neglected to great open-source supporter.

Xenon · Jun 11, 2010

EnderMB said:
I think that Samsung aren't going to develop any new updates for the i7500, but they could always help out the GAOSP by providing what code and hardware details they have in order to make it easier for open source developers to make the updates.

Quoted for truth.

dryhte · Jun 14, 2010

Xenon said:
Quoted for truth.

++

sado1 · Jun 14, 2010

I still think you're naive, nothing stops you from emailing Samsung though.

stappern · Jun 14, 2010

guys what about multi touch on galaxy instead?

DaSchmarotzer · Jun 14, 2010

stappern said:
guys what about multi touch on galaxy instead?

Although multi-touch would be technically possible, we don't have any drivers for it. The Galaxy doesn't have a Synaptics touch pad, it has another brand (Melfas, but I might be wrong). There is a lot of support for Synaptics, but not for this almost unknown brand.

Also, there is no multi-touch "chip", so it would have to be done via software, and the performance wouldn't be so good.

I might be wrong, but that's what I heard a while ago.

stappern · Jun 14, 2010

DaSchmarotzer said:
Although multi-touch would be technically possible, we don't have any drivers for it. The Galaxy doesn't have a Synaptics touch pad, it has another brand (Melfas, but I might be wrong). There is a lot of support for Synaptics, but not for this almost unknown brand.

Also, there is no multi-touch "chip", so it would have to be done via software, and the performance wouldn't be so good.

I might be wrong, but that's what I heard a while ago.

yea i read about the melfas thing

let's hope in drakaz's work

ps

he managed to get hardware 3d accelleration on gaosp

dryhte · Jun 15, 2010

I hope he doesn't get bored of the Galaxy before he manages to complete GAOSP 2.2

Motorious · Jun 15, 2010

DaSchmarotzer said:
Well, I don't know much about carriers, but I did try emailing mine a few times (Bell Mobility). I even told them that I bought the phone because it would get 2.x updates.

They answered that it was not their fault, the manufacturer should do the updates, they don't have any information.

In short, they don't give a crap. But it's true, they don't have much power toward Samsung. You think that T-mobile has that kind of power?

hahahaha.....Bell Mobility is by far the worst customer experience I have ever encountered. They have blatantly lied to me, restructured contracts mid-contract, failed to provide any support or updates to the Touch Pro when I had it, charged me $400 for a phone I didn't purchase (of which I got my refund after 4 months of fighting). Any sort of customer appeal to Bell will be met with not only indifference, but serious disregard. They have no real accountability due to the lack of competition in Canada.

My opinion is, don't put any faith in Bell. When I've inquired about phone updates in the past, they have claimed it's the manufacturer's responsibility. When I've contacted the manufacturer, they have claimed it's Bell's responsibility to sanction an update. I'm inclined to believe the manufacturer.

I do have a Telus phone in the household and it seems they do provide frequent updates. Come July, my bell contract will be bought out and I will be heading to Telus or Wind until Shaw rolls out their LTE service in ~1.5 years.

500ef · Jun 23, 2010

From drakaz twitter ( drakaz (drakaz) on Twitter )

"Froyo source code available !"

porga · Jun 23, 2010

Where? Which version?

2.6.29?

crixalis · Jun 23, 2010

500ef said:
From drakaz twitter ( drakaz (drakaz) on Twitter )

"Froyo source code available !"

good news

Maybe with froyo source we will have full work android 2.2 on galaxy

500ef · Jun 23, 2010

Celebrating Android

6/23/2010 11:07:00 AM

Today, Verizon and Motorola announced the newest device powered by Android at an event in New York. We were thrilled to be there, and humbled by what our partners have been able to accomplish with Android. Every day 160,000 Android-powered devices are activated -- that’s nearly two devices every second, used for the first time by people from New York to New Zealand.

Android started with one simple idea: Provide a powerful, open mobile platform to drive faster innovation for the benefit of consumers. This idea has come to life around the world. Today, there are 60 compatible Android devices, delivered via a global partnership network of 21 OEMs and 59 carriers in 49 countries. The volume and variety of Android devices continues to exceed even our most optimistic expectations. In some instances, Android devices are selling faster than they can be manufactured.

To celebrate, we are open sourcing the new 2.2 version of Android, which we call Froyo, to our partners who manufacture Android devices around the world. Customers will enjoy great new features and improved browser performance. And developers will benefit from new tools such as Android cloud-to-device messaging (which makes it easier for mobile applications to sync data).

We want to thank our partners for joining us in our vision, for creating such compelling devices, and for continuing to push the limits of what is possible in a smartphone.

Link: Official Google Blog: Celebrating Android

DaSchmarotzer · Jun 23, 2010

I wonder what will happen with GAOSP next, and if it's going to be possible to port it on froyo... Doubt it.

I guess we can only wait and see. We should be used to it by now.

porga · Jun 23, 2010

Which kernel version? Anybody?

sado1 · Jun 23, 2010

it's official, drakaz said that beta2 will be running on 2.3 gingerbread

hey people seriously, what do you want from him... let him release 2.1 and then we'll see...

porga · Jun 24, 2010

Nobody knows which kernel version is 2.2?

porga · Jun 24, 2010

interesting for developers:

Google open sources Android 2.2 'Froyo,' updates coming soon | Software News - Betanews

(devel tools inside)

FadeFx · Jun 24, 2010

kindof funny to read galaxy s users want samsung to be quick with the update to froyo.... we will see if they get better support from this heap of morrones...

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