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  1. thepervster

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    well according to a thread over at sdx we will be getting the 2.2 update for the transform starting tomorrow 2-28-11, well.EDIT>>>>> i just talked to customer service and they said it was scheduled to come out today but they just got the notice that it is delayed because of the problems with the epic ota. DAMN SAMSUNG
     

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    Okay, so lets say that Sprint gives us the 2.2 today!!

    Not sure if that is true or not but I am already on the rooted 2.2 so what does that mean to someone like me? Do I have to go back a version or would I be able to use the Transform's built in "Update Android" option and go from there? Anyone think there might be problems with the rooted versions or should that all just work in harmony as well?

    Regards,

    Shahhere
     
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    Everyone including myself will need to go to my flash to stock guide. FYI you wont be able to just install Titanium Backup and get everything back. No root access or custom recovery. I just need to have some people do this tomorrow and tell all of us if Froyo is being pushed OTA. If no one wants to go stock then I will... Least I can do for the community.
     
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    So instead of just restoring to my save file in your Froyo guide, I need to reflash stock completely?
     
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    No update yet for me here in CA as of 9:15AM, 2/28. Bad timing for me. My 30-day return window ends today (for me and my family). If Froyo makes my 800MHz/256MB-RAM Transform run better than the 600MHz/512MB-RAM Optimus S (that my family members have) then I'll swap them out for Transforms, but if not (or if Froyo doesn't come out today), I'll swap my Transform out for an Optimus.

    Anybody (especially those who have rooted or otherwise updated the Transform to Froyo) know if a Froyo-based Transform runs faster/better than a Froyo-based Optimus?
     
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    This isn't a complete way to test it, but download an app to an Optimus called Linpack for Android. Run a benchmark, and see how many MFLOPS you get. My rooted Transform with Froyo and other things get's high 8-9+
     
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    Thanks Cooper271. I don't have an Optimus S on me right now (because my family is out for the day) but based on a quick web search it seems that the Optimus gets a Linpack score of 7.4 MFLOPS (or up to about 1.1 MFLOPS if overclocked to 850MHZ). I'm a bit worried about Linpack as a benchmark because it seems to focus on making the CPU run algorithms, rather than testing the overall system performance for real-world-usage, including graphics, RAM-intensive apps, web-page loading, etc. I would expect a faster CPU to always win a Linpack competition, regardless of RAM or GPU but I could easily be wrong.

    Did you overclock your Transform to get the Linkpack scores that you posted?
     
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    I am praying real hard for this update from Sprint. My wife doesn't want to me to root her phone or put FroyoRC2 on it. She's afraid I'll mess it up. I need this update for her! Lets all join hands and pray to the gods to get it here quickly.
     
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    No, I didn't overclock it (although I want to find out how!). My highest rating is a 9.83. I flashed this after rooting with TheAndroid's guide: Froyo port ROM and Hotspot remover [UPDATED 2/10/11]
    It reinstalls the Kernal and Froyo (no big deal here), but it's a lot more complete, including Vampirefo's kernal, Froyo, de-odex, full battery popup remover, the Camera flash fix and JIT. It's really simple with just one file. There's a separate download for ext4 (if you didn't do this already with TheAndroid). I also haven't tried it yet, but there's another thing you can flash to remove the Sprint Hotspot app. The package also removes a lot of bloatware, you can see a list by following the link.

    EDIT: And you're right about Linpack not being so accurate. But flashing this stuff did improve it a lot (about 3-4 mflops stock). It can run about 12-14 apps before Android starts closing them down. And even then, the interface is very snappy and runs everything quickly and cleanly


    EDIT 2: Just checked it out, vampirefo's kernal can't be overclocked
     
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    Thanks again. Interestingly, your ratio of the Transform's Linpack score (9.83) to CPU speed (800MHz) is almost exactly the same as the Optimus's Linpack score (7.4) to CPU speed (600MHz). That tends to confirm my suspicion that Linpack is mostly a CPU test.
     
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    If you don't want to root your phone (worth rooting any phone, in my opinion) I'd personally go with the Optimus. At least, until the Transform gets Froyo. If you do want to root your phone and make it more customizable, I'd go with the Transform. The large keyboard was a big deal for me though. From what I've seen (and played around with in the Sprint store), they're both close the same speed and snappiness with Froyo, if the Transform isn't better. You also get a longer screen and more CPU with the Transform. I don't know about the Optimus, but the Transform has a great community and modders here and on the SDX forums. Vampirefo and Solust and many others are a great coders, and 90% of the Intercept mods work with the Transform, adding to the things that it has going for it.
    Ultimately, I think the Transform is much better if you root it.
     
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    If you need me to do it too, I will flash the stock back to mine tomorrow...
     
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    I'm not opposed to rooting the Transform (or the Optimus). But if rooting the Transform to 2.2, merely gets me the same features as the Optimus (which is already on 2.2) then I don't want to bother unless it leads to better real-world performance than the Optimus. Otherwise I'll just switch to the Optimus. I'm mostly interested in real-world performance. The Transform has a more powerful (800MHz) CPU than the Optimus, and a GPU (that's good) but the Transform only has 256MB of RAM and no OpenGL graphics driver (so the GPU is almost useless). The Optimus S has a 600MHZ CPU (that's bad) but it has 512MB of RAM and a GPU and a graphics driver, so it runs faster than the 2.1 Transform in every real-world test that I've done. A big question is whether the new 2.2 release for the Transform will include a graphics driver. I'm also wondering if Samsung is improving the pathetic video camcorder resolution of the Transform, which is only 1/4th that of the Optimus S.
     
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    I doubt the resolution will be fixed. It isn't a huge deal for me though. As for the drivers.......
    Well, here's from a post on a topic you posted:
    "I'm trying my best to be optimistic about Samsung releasing some good graphics drivers for 2.2 when its officially released. If not, I have 4 graphics drivers I would be more than glad to post for everyone on here. Such as JIT, and some better 3D Drivers, and trust me, the Transform will be a lot faster. Even I sometimes become jealous of the Optimus S, because I could install ThundeROM and have a phone faster than most Galaxy S phones and 2X the Transform's RAM. Believe me, I'm going to do everything I can to make my phone faster while keeping it stable and enjoyable."

    Good point on ThundeRom.
    Although RAM shouldn't be a huge issue if you use the Apps2SD mod (not the Apps2SD native to Froyo) that way you can run apps from your SD card. There are also things like Swapper/Swappy. Here's a thread to check out: http://forum.sdx-developers.com/transform-2-2-questions/apps2sd-issues/
     
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    It wasn't clear to me if "The Android" was saying that his graphics drivers could be integrated into the Tansform and if by doing so the Transform would ultimately be faster than the Optimus S in real-world usage.

    It's noon here in CA, and still no Froyo update from Sprint. :-(
     
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    I seriously doubt you'll get it today. Even if it is coming (rumor) it's a four day OTA push period. And yeah, I think they would make it faster than the Optimus S. If not, it's a minute difference you wouldn't even be able to tell.
    JIT definitely made it faster
     
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    yep you are correct. i just talked to customer service and they said it was scheduled to come out today but the just got the notice that it is delayed because of the problems with the epic ota. DAMN SAMSUNG
     
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    I heard a rumor about Epic having problems. Figured it'd mess with us. Oh well, I can live without the Froyo update (seeing as I already have it ;) )
     
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    With the graphics drivers, yes they will be intigrated into the Transform via applying a .zip Ill be going stock until I see that someone on SDX decides to make a ROM with the drivers I know if. If no one decides to start making ROMs when I get the drivers personally, I will just message someone like Shiftr, Vampirefo, or Quadanar... Ill do my best to also see of I can OC the Transform circum 900mhtz-1ghtz. Ill do my best to help out with all these modifications which will come to life when Froyo comes out. Ill be making more guides for Froyo after its released. If you guys ever have questions about Transform mods and want videos and extra update information feel free to message wwJoshDew on YouTube. He helped me myselfg root my Transform. Good thing he did I almost bricked mine which is why its always good to have help and guides. :) Cooper, tomorrow when you have the chance, flash to stock using the guide I created. Ill be doing the same and we'll see who gets their update first. I trust we're probably in different time zones. I'm central. We can't be too sure about when this update will come about...
     
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    The update is delayed. We won't be getting it until they fix the Epic's OTA problems.
     
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    4:18:34 PM : Connected to sprint.ehosts.net

    4:18:34 PM : Session ID: 2309006

    4:18:34 PM : Curtis Bascue: Initial Question/Comment: Rumor is the Samsung Transform 2.2 update will be available tomorrow; is this true?

    4:18:39 PM : You are next in queue...

    4:18:44 PM : Please wait and the next available account specialist will be with you shortly.

    4:19:04 PM : If you are chatting today for Technical Support, please call 1-888-211-4727.

    4:19:09 PM : Kenny B has joined this session!

    4:19:12 PM : Connected with Kenny B. Your Reference Number for this chat session is 2309006.

    4:19:14 PM : Thank you for contacting Sprint. My name is Kenny B.

    4:19:28 PM : Curtis Bascue: Hello Kenny.

    4:19:29 PM : Kenny B: I am happy to help you.

    4:20:04 PM : Curtis Bascue: So, about my question... Any information you have at all?

    4:20:09 PM : Kenny B: Please let me know the both phone models.

    4:20:20 PM : Curtis Bascue: My phone is an M920

    4:21:14 PM : Kenny B: Let me check it.

    4:22:04 PM : Kenny B: Thank you for your time.

    4:22:29 PM : Kenny B: yes. the 2.2 Android is available now.

    4:23:02 PM : Curtis Bascue: Could you perhaps provide me with a link to this update?

    4:23:13 PM : Kenny B: Sure.

    4:23:36 PM : Curtis Bascue: Alright, thank you very much for your help so far.

    4:23:54 PM : Kenny B: Please allow me a few moments.

    4:24:02 PM : Curtis Bascue: Of course.

    4:26:09 PM : Kenny B: Thank you for your time.

    4:26:19 PM : Kenny B: Please follow the steps.

    4:28:04 PM : Kenny B: You can initiate the software update from Home > Menu > Settings

    4:28:18 PM : Curtis Bascue: Okay, Ill do that thank you. I must go thank you!

    Herp Derp lets flash stock guys we have to see if this is true. I just contacted this representative 15min ago.
     
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    Alright, let me know
     
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    The people in Sprint chat keep on denying it.
     

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