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epic 4g sustainability?

Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by nismospec, Oct 6, 2010.

  1. nismospec

    nismospec Well-Known Member
    Thread Starter

    Nov 24, 2009
    so is the Epic going to be the best android phone for sprint this year?

    we're in the age of new phones coming out very quickly, so i'm curious if this will be the best offering, or if something newer/faster/better will come out closer to the holidays?

    any word on future android phones?


  2. AndroidSPCS

    AndroidSPCS Well-Known Member

    Nov 12, 2009
    It's tough say, but right now the Samsung Transform and Sanyo Zio are mid-tier phones. So either the Evo or Epic look to be top dog right now... pending a surprise announcement / release from Sprint.

    Even if Sprint releases a new set of phones, the Evo /Epic are still extremely capable and powerful, and should last well over a year.
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  3. Thai


    Sep 24, 2010
    The nice thing is that the Epic's hardware is supposedly quite up-to-date. Bluetooth is version 3.0. GPU/CPU are top-notch. Screen is the latest technology. We have stuff on our Epic that most other phones (EVO included) do not.

    The biggest problem with Epic is that the software is still behind the hardware. So, once Samsung updates the software (hopefully before hell freezing!), then our phones will be even better! So, there are still a few bugs in the software, but i am praying that Samsung fixes these soon....

    The Epic is the best and most-featured laden phone from Samsung...that is why it was called originally Galaxy S PRO, to distinguish it from the other Galaxy S phones.
  4. adelmundo

    adelmundo Well-Known Member

    Aug 22, 2010
    Bay Area, CA
    As long as the phone lasts at least 2 years I will be happy, but let's face it, there is always something newer and better over the horizon.
  5. nickw511

    nickw511 Active Member

    Sep 2, 2010
    Seems like the PalmPre was Sprint's poster-child for at least 11 or 12 months. I would think Epic (and or EVO) will stay on top for that long....
  6. cruiser771

    cruiser771 Well-Known Member

    Sep 10, 2010
    Huntington Park, CA
    there aren't a lot of phones that have what the epic has, especially if you want a keyboard. all I could see a new phone having is more ram and clock speed, and possibly a larger screen. what else can you improve on besides the software
  7. futureprospect

    futureprospect Active Member

    Jun 13, 2010
    I'm more concerned about it's network sustainability. With Verizon coming out with LTE and T-mobile with its own high-speed network, i'm not sure how Sprint can maintain their edge in this competitive marketplace. I don't see how they can keep their 10$ premium fee when all the other networks are going to have faster speeds.
  8. Inferno4213

    Inferno4213 Well-Known Member

    Jul 29, 2010
    Metro Detroit
    because they're still much cheaper...
  9. badankles

    badankles Well-Known Member

    Jul 19, 2010
    yeah, let's see what the pricing will be when those other carriers actually roll them out. if for some reason they don't have different price plans for their 4G or LTE, then sprint will have to rethink their $10 fee.
  10. Bitbang3r

    Bitbang3r Well-Known Member

    Apr 24, 2010
    > what else can you improve on besides the software

    • Real buttons for home/back/search/menu. Capacitive fake buttons are evil and suck.
    • Rounded, smaller keycaps with the same center-to-center pitch so users can type on it without pressing adjacent keys
    • Power button that can be pressed without shearing the phone open. They should have put it on the screen half instead of the keyboard half, because someone holding the phone in one hand and pressing the power button with his thumb or index finger (depending on whether it's the right or left hand) is naturally going to grip the top/screen half on the left side.
    • Tactile texture on power button so it can be easily and effortlessly located by touch.
    • 24000mAH stock battery.
    • Velvety plastic body instead of cheap-feeling slippery plastic.
    • Slide-out 8-way gamepad.
    • optical trackball.
    • Physical latch to lock keep keyboard firmly closed when desired.
  11. Bitbang3r

    Bitbang3r Well-Known Member

    Apr 24, 2010
    > With Verizon coming out with LTE and T-mobile with its own high-speed network, i'm not sure how Sprint can maintain their edge in this competitive marketplace.

    On Christmas Eve, ~80% of America will have 4G service available from Sprint, and probably 4-5 phones capable of using it. Verizon will have LTE in a dozen airports, scattered parts of a few cities, and not a single phone that can actually make use of it -- just USB laptop dongles. T-Mobile will have really fast service in Chicago, and lots of customers wondering whether 2011 will be the year their neighborhood finally gets 3G.

    Next Christmas, Verizon and AT&T will be widely available, but it won't matter because they're both going to nickel and dime their customers over every gigabyte. Sprint customers will laugh and stream HD movies without having to worry about making every megabyte count. T-Mobile will have fast HSPA+ service available to 80% of their customers in a dozen big cities, but everyone will have mostly forgotten about it by then because all the new T-Mobile phones will do WiMax and use Clear as well.

    T-Mobile might "call" for LTE, but I can guarantee that they aren't going to risk languishing for a year or two waiting for technology to catch up. When push comes to shove and they're feeling the 4G heat from Sprint, Verizon, and AT&T, they're going to go with WiMax simply because it exists, it's available right now, and can be added to all their new phones going forward with minimal ceremony just like it was added to the Evo and Epic. LTE might be "the future", but in pure technical terms, the "LTE" being deployed by Verizon (and AT&T) has absolutely no technical advantage over WiMax besides international blessing. It won't be any worse than WiMax, but it won't be any better, either. To users, they're indistinguishable.

    In the really long run, I think it's a given that Sprint will eventually migrate to LTE, just because eventually it'll be cheaper to replace everything with commodity LTE gear from China than to buy WiMax gear at super-premium prices from a diminishing number of sources. After all, even Europe eventually saw the light and dumped GSM's TDMA legacy for (W-)CDMA. But I think it's going to be at least 5-10 years before it really becomes an issue. In the meantime, Sprint has a huge advantage over Verizon: Verizon is basically single-handedly funding the development of American LTE, and it's costing them dearly. Sprint, meanwhile, is buying everything for a fraction of the cost, because WiMax is a relatively mature technology. This is the first time anyone has ever really combined WiMax with a cell phone and deployed it on a vast scale, but they aren't exactly blazing a trail through virgin jungle the way Verizon is.
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  12. Epicurean

    Epicurean Well-Known Member

    Sep 1, 2010
    1. I actually like the fake capacitive buttons. I like the look of the phone when it is turned off - the buttons are off too.
    2. Agree that the keyboard keys could use some improvement
    3. I've gotten used to the fact that this is really a two-handed phone. So I start off by picking it up with one hand and turning it on with the other.
    4. Same as 3
    5. May not need a bigger battery with the new update. I still have a spare that probably won't see as much use.
    6. I don't like the slippery plastic either, but I'm anal about putting a cover on my phone anyway so not a big deal.
    7. A gamepad!
    8. I really don't like trackballs - I would have looked for a different phone if the Epic had one
    9. The two-part case I use (the 19.99 one from Sprint) helps to keep the keyboard shut. When I open and close, I do it gently as a two-handed operation. If you keep slamming it, it will eventually break.

    The only real hardware feature I would like to see improved is the S-AMOLED screen in bright sunlight. The Achilles Heel for me.

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