I'm excited for the iphone!

[Crude]

I cannot afford the iphone, but I'm glad it's coming to Verizon. Google has been rather un-innovative since they became the #1 smart phone OS in the US. I hope this puts google back into second place so we get more goodies!

Also, manufacturer haven't been able to keep up with the iphone's hardware lead. Maybe we'll start seeing decent cameras, thinner phones and real developments instead of just improving the old.

 

[RiverOfIce]

I am sorry, but I have to ask, they have been on top for like 5 months. Talk about two different scales. Google does nothing for 5 months with android, in your opinion, and they are not innovating. But apple releases nothing major in the last 2 years, they really just play catch up and gimmicks, and they are going to make android to innovate? huh.

 

[byteware]

I am sorry, but I have to ask, they have been on top for like 5 months. Talk about two different scales. Google does nothing for 5 months with android, in your opinion, and they are not innovating. But apple releases nothing major in the last 2 years, they really just play catch up and gimmicks, and they are going to make android to innovate? huh.

I'm assuming he's being sarcastic.

 

[kyler13]

Funny... On this, the day of the iphone release, I was in a Verizon store and got a chance to hold a Verizon iPhone in person. Never really picked one up before since I'm a Verizon customer - what was the point? Anyway, loved the fluidity of the UI and the responsiveness of the screen. The screen looked great, better the other LCD phones around, but it was hard to differentiate the increased resolution unless it's up in your face. The WVGA phones looked just as sharp. Still takes a back seat to Super AMOLED. The Fascinate and the Continuum stand out. Period. Thought the iPhone was a bit heavy and didn't like the slickness of the glass being on the back (like the front). Also feels a bit fragile in the sense of holding a crystal wine glass: good heft but you're afraid to drop it. Anyway, I was there to run through the phones one last time, and check out the Continuum for my wife. She decided it was the one she wanted earlier in the week. Then, on this, the day of the the $199 iphone release, I went down the road to Best Buy and got her a Continuum...for FREE.

 

[sergey]

I went to the local Verizon store today and the salesman there was trashing the iPhone and was pitching the Android phones. Hard. It was like if the iPhone never came to Verizon. He even had a chart showing specs between the top 3 Android phones vs. the iPhone.

So for all you worriers out there, Verizon is down with Android.

 

[hrbib21]

No worries. The fact is, Android is beating iOS now for a reason and it's nit because Android phones suck.

 

[PSkeptic]

No worries. The fact is, Android is beating iOS now for a reason and it's nit because Android phones suck.

I think the main reason Android is beating out the iPhone is market share is because all Android phones suck hard!

I mean, people love things that are hard to use, fragmented, inelegant, not user friendly, ugly, and all the other labels phanbois apply to Android phones

 

[kyler13]

I went to the local Verizon store today and the salesman there was trashing the iPhone and was pitching the Android phones. Hard. It was like if the iPhone never came to Verizon. He even had a chart showing specs between the top 3 Android phones vs. the iPhone.

So for all you worriers out there, Verizon is down with Android.

I'm clearly 100% pro-Android, but I have to say that this could be purely sales practice. The iPhone just came out and they're probably trying to move Android inventory, especially with the Thunderbolt and others on the horizon. Take away the global refresh of the Droid 2, the last Android release was, what, October?

 

[AFAngryWarrior]

I think the main reason Android is beating out the iPhone is market share is because all Android phones suck hard!

I mean, people love things that are hard to use, fragmented, inelegant, not user friendly, ugly, and all the other labels phanbois apply to Android phones

Yeah that's the most illogical thing I've ever heard? Android's US market share has gained over the iPhone because Android phones suckhard... Americans just love phones that are hard to use. No, we like Android because you don't have to be like EVERY person that has the same iPhone. Doesn't matter what carrier you're on every iPhone user is exactly the same. With Android you have differentiation. There are tons of different Manufacturers, Models, Specs, etc but with the iPhone you get a single phone the same as everyone elses. iPhone users are conformists who think its a status symbol when its a symbol of wanting to be like everyone else. Android is a symbol of liberty and freedom to choose and do what you want to the device. Its customizable, and open sourced. I can go out and choose from different tweaked OS ROMS and themes. I can do anything to the Droid, not the iPhone. Which is sorry to say the reason there weren't huge lines on any news channel for the iPhone release. I was at the mall and there were 20 sales people at the Verizon store sitting on their hands because the Droid has already been established and I don't know any Droid users that even thought about switching to an iPhone. Droid Does, iPhone just doesn't...

 

[butthead007]

Yeah that's the most illogical thing I've ever heard? Android's US market share has gained over the iPhone because Android phones suckhard... Americans just love phones that are hard to use. No, we like Android because you don't have to be like EVERY person that has the same iPhone. Doesn't matter what carrier you're on every iPhone user is exactly the same. With Android you have differentiation. There are tons of different Manufacturers, Models, Specs, etc but with the iPhone you get a single phone the same as everyone elses. iPhone users are conformists who think its a status symbol when its a symbol of wanting to be like everyone else. Android is a symbol of liberty and freedom to choose and do what you want to the device. Its customizable, and open sourced. I can go out and choose from different tweaked OS ROMS and themes. I can do anything to the Droid, not the iPhone. Which is sorry to say the reason there weren't huge lines on any news channel for the iPhone release. I was at the mall and there were 20 sales people at the Verizon store sitting on their hands because the Droid has already been established and I don't know any Droid users that even thought about switching to an iPhone. Droid Does, iPhone just doesn't...

Well stated.

I always refer to the iphone as a smartphone with training wheels. It is definitely a nice device. But it's definitely not a power user device by any stretch of the imagination.

And I've been using Apple products since 1977.

 

[PSkeptic]

Well stated.

I always refer to the iphone as a smartphone with training wheels. It is definitely a nice device. But it's definitely not a power user device by any stretch of the imagination.

And I've been using Apple products since 1977.

Grandma uses an iPhone...

Everyone else: An Android.

 

[tuggy24g]

First off if you hate Android or do not like it for some reason why you here???? Makes really no sense to me.

Second why does there have to be a new android phone out every month or two. The one problem with android is there are new phones coming out everyday almost. Because of that companies sometimes are forgetting there older phones for updates. They worry about the new phone and upgrade them. So why do we need a new android phone every day? I mean I would be happy if Moto,Samsung,LG, and HTC all came out with just one or two phones a year for lets say Verizon. That way I do not feel like my phone is useless after three month and second I know there will be updates if they are ready like Android 2.3. Also if there are any problems with the phone I will be assure it will get fixed ASAP!

With that being said that is why I want one or two phones from a company a year.

 

[kyler13]

Plainly and simply, the iPhone is great for those who are technologically inept (or afraid) or just don't want to bother with anything beyond toggling the power button when they buy a smartphone. Beyond that, if you're a power user, don't care about paying a lot for apps, and are generally okay with limited options, the iPhone still isn't a bad choice. This, of course, doesn't take into account jailbreaking. The irony here is that rooting an Android phone gives you outright customizability with your phone whereas jailbreaking simply allows you to customize an otherwise locked up iPhone experience, albeit still with steep limitations.

 

[PSkeptic]

First off if you hate Android or do not like it for some reason why you here???? Makes really no sense to me.

Second why does there have to be a new android phone out every month or two. The one problem with android is there are new phones coming out everyday almost. Because of that companies sometimes are forgetting there older phones for updates. They worry about the new phone and upgrade them. So why do we need a new android phone every day? I mean I would be happy if Moto,Samsung,LG, and HTC all came out with just one or two phones a year for lets say Verizon. That way I do not feel like my phone is useless after three month and second I know there will be updates if they are ready like Android 2.3. Also if there are any problems with the phone I will be assure it will get fixed ASAP!

With that being said that is why I want one or two phones from a company a year.

Choice.

You can thank the "a new phone very 3 months" thing for being able to get a smart phone for $0 w/two year contract.

 

[tylerdurdin]

@PSkeptic I think you were looking for this.......

http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=201

 

[sergey]

I'm clearly 100% pro-Android, but I have to say that this could be purely sales practice. The iPhone just came out and they're probably trying to move Android inventory, especially with the Thunderbolt and others on the horizon. Take away the global refresh of the Droid 2, the last Android release was, what, October?

I wouldn't be so cynical- he was pitching it in terms of specs, not price.
So it's a fair comparison. Now if he was trying to pitch me a Droid incredible and trying to tell me that this blows the iPhone out of the water, then I'd be thinking along those lines.

And even if the the current crop of android phones go for $50 or $100, it's a great deal and further expands Android's market share. Remember, not everybody is looking for the latest dual core, 3D display, LTE phone.

There is probably a lot of people that don't want to pay extra for LTE, so the market for 3G Android phones is still strong.

 

[kyler13]

I wouldn't be so cynical- he was pitching it in terms of specs, not price.
So it's a fair comparison. Now if he was trying to pitch me a Droid incredible and trying to tell me that this blows the iPhone out of the water, then I'd be thinking along those lines.

And even if the the current crop of android phones go for $50 or $100, it's a great deal and further expands Android's market share. Remember, not everybody is looking for the latest dual core, 3D display, LTE phone.

There is probably a lot of people that don't want to pay extra for LTE, so the market for 3G Android phones is still strong.

Yeah, but the top 3 Android phones are pretty much 5+ months old at this point. Specs or price, making a sale is making a sale no matter how you push something. You know that 3G-only sequels to the Droid X and Incredible are around the corner as well, so it's not just about LTE. The point is, the current crop of Droids are much closer to end-of-life than the anything else and those phones will only get harder to push. Just saying.

 

[vasilator]

One area where I do agree with the OP is the screen responsiveness. Granted this is only comparing to two phones (HTC incredible, Droid X) but man I do miss the responsiveness of the I-phone. Also the video and the picture software on those phones as well. Other than the Samsung line of phones I haven't seen anything touch the Iphone for photo/video quality.


Oh, and battery life.

 

[Hrethgir]

Yeah, but the top 3 Android phones are pretty much 5+ months old at this point.

And how old is the top-of-the-line version of the iPhone4? About 8 months old now. I'm not counting the Verizon version as a new version either, since it's identical to the AT&T version except for the radio and a couple small changes to the antenna bands.

 

[hrbib21]

iOS is on one line of phones from one company. Android, practically dozens. And people are surprised that Android is now leading? Apple shot themselves in the foot with that strategy, though they aren't exactly hurting.

And I've often said Apple products are for folks who choose not to think for themselves; iSheeple. Android requires more thought but with greater reward (IMO). Nothing wrong with either but that doesnt jive with the elitist attitude you see from so many iTards out there.

 

[Hrethgir]

iOS is on one line of phones from one company. Android, practically dozens. And people are surprised that Android is now leading? Apple shot themselves in the foot with that strategy, though they aren't exactly hurting.

And I've often said Apple products are for folks who choose not to think for themselves; iSheeple. Android requires more thought but with greater reward (IMO). Nothing wrong with either but that doesnt jive with the elitist attitude you see from so many iTards out there.

Some people WANT a simple to use phone they don't have to worry about randomly rebooting or whether a new app update will cause issues with the cpu not sleeping and eating the battery. It all just works without having to think about it. I had an iPhone 3Gs, and my brother and mother both have iPhone4's. They just want something that is easy to use. I, on the other hand, wasn't happy enough with the freedom even a jailbreak gave me, I wanted more, even if it meant it wouldn't be as simple. That's the cost. Recently had an issue where I had an outdated TTS library causing a error feedback loop that was causing constant random reboots, took me 2 weeks to figure out the issue, I was starting to look back with fondness at my old iPhone! but I got it fixed, so it's all good. And while there are plenty of elitist Apple owners out there, they aren't all like that, and don't even pretend that there aren't Android owners with the exact same attitude. Like you calling iPhone users names, you come off like an Android elitist who looks down on anyone using anything else. Live and let live, man, there is no perfect phone out there, and without Apple paving the way for smartphones with the iPhone, there probably wouldn't be Android right now.

 

[byteware]

Some people WANT a simple to use phone they don't have to worry about randomly rebooting or whether a new app update will cause issues with the cpu not sleeping and eating the battery. It all just works without having to think about it. I had an iPhone 3Gs, and my brother and mother both have iPhone4's. They just want something that is easy to use.

Interesting, because my electronics inept mother in law uses a Moto Droid without any issues whatsoever...

 

[Hrethgir]

Interesting, because my electronics inept mother in law uses a Moto Droid without any issues whatsoever...

And my friends mother-in-law just got an HTC Inspire. But MY mother-in-law thinks the internet is an evil portal to sin and pornography (I'm not exaggerating that either). I didn't say anybody over a certain age can't use Android, or that younger people won't want the simplicity of iOS. I'm just saying that some people want a simple to use phone, and some want lots of options. We need them both to play off each other so that we keep getting innovation.

 

[byteware]

And my friends mother-in-law just got an HTC Inspire. But MY mother-in-law thinks the internet is an evil portal to sin and pornography (I'm not exaggerating that either). I didn't say anybody over a certain age can't use Android, or that younger people won't want the simplicity of iOS. I'm just saying that some people want a simple to use phone, and some want lots of options. We need them both to play off each other so that we keep getting innovation.

What you are missing is... Android IS a simple to use phone.

It's as simple as the iPhone. However, IF you want to go deeper you can, but you aren't required to.

 

[Hrethgir]

What you are missing is... Android IS a simple to use phone.

It's as simple as the iPhone. However, IF you want to go deeper you can, but you aren't required to.

True, but not AS simple as an iPhone. Besides, iOS has such a rep as an easy to use OS that it pretty much becomes the default smartphone for computer illiterates, even though they could use Android just as easily. But it's "new" and different, and most people don't know enough about it and assume it's tricky to use. I'm sure my mom could have handled an Android phone, and I tried to steer her to one, but she defaulted back to Apple because "it's easy to use." I think there's a lot of perception that since Android is so customizable that it must be hard to use, but like you said, they can keep it simple, just like the iPhone.