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Ok Ive found my answer after going thru second level Samsung phone tech support.This is a fact if you set a alarm with the phone pwered off it wont work at all.I was told I need to set the phone to airplane mode.Im sure if I took the time to read the manual I would have found this.
But I did voice my pisssedofffness with the fact that a $100 old Samsung slideout phone could do this-a $600 gs4 could not.Really!!!Its in my mind a battery issue.At home no big deal.But what if your camping or away from a outlet to charge.This needs to be fixed.Oh well so goes life.peace.