I see a lot of complaining directed toward VZN for delaying the release of 4.0.4, but didn't it also take a while for the GSM Gnex to get 4.0.4?
Not as long really.
Everyone blames Verizon based on history with updates. They generally take longer than any other provider to release update. Sometimes it is a good thing because they test the update, but in this case the update wasn't really an improvement over the leaks that came out a while before. to top it off they claimed that it fixed problems that it didn't fix.
In this case we were hit with a double whammy because Samsung is also notorious about taking forever to update phones.
I see a lot of complaining directed toward VZN for delaying the release of 4.0.4, but didn't it also take a while for the GSM Gnex to get 4.0.4?
I'll be honest, I'm starting to question whether the reason VZW takes longer to release devices and updates is because of a more rigorous testing process, or because their testing process is filled with bureaucratic crap which guarantees a slower process AND lesser product. Honestly, I didn't see any improvement with the 4.0.4 update in what I consider the biggest problems, in fact I think it may even be slightly worse. And I know your problem wasn't fixed either, OTD. Kind of frustrating.
Well it looks even more like they are going to be showing off 4.1 at Google I/O.
It could be a bunch of red tape or it could be really poor communication between Samsung and Verizon. It could also be that testers are living in the the problem regions for the muted call issue. No muted calls must mean problem solved, right? Knowing people that work for Verizon, I can see red tape being a huge issue.
In the past, I haven't seen huge improvements with software updates unless their are version changes. On my fascinate they released a couple of minor updates, but the real fixes didn't come until the phone moved from Froyo to Gingerbread. So if it is Verizon, Samsung, ICS or something else maybe 4.1 will fix it.
People forget we have been through this before.
MAC vs Windows
You could replace mac for iOS and Android for Windows, swap a software discussion for a hardware one and this article is straight from 1992...
MAC fans spent YEARS claiming that MS would fail because the the variety of hardware was to difficult to program for.
uh...no. that's completely unrelated. android is currently far more fragmented than apple is.
I don't think you're following his point. He's saying that Windows computers were also "fragmented" in the sense that 1 OS has to work on hundreds of of hardware platforms, and they seemed to turn out just fine.
Fragmentation isn't inherently bad. Case in point, Windows currently owns almost 75% of the OS market (Mac OS is under 10%), while Android has 59% of the smartphone OS market (iOS is at 23%). Part of what makes Android so great is that you have hundreds of devices to choose from, not just one with a teeny tiny screen.
If 4.1 really is unwrapped this week i don't even want to think about how long it will take the VZW to get it. I'm not talking about Roms built from 4.1 source either, because those mean nothing to me without the corresponding VZW specific firmware to match.
Also we should keep an eye out for a jelly bean statue to be put up at Mountain View soon ....like in the next day or two if they are going to out JB this week.
I just wanted to be the first to ask...
Will it be available for the GNex?
If so, when will it be released?
Speculation is encouraged.
GSM Galaxy Nexus and rooted users: within 4 weeks of Nexus tab release
VZW Galaxy Nexus stock users: Christmas of 2012. And I predict eleventy-billion threads complaining about it before now and then.
If 4.1 really is unwrapped this week i don't even want to think about how long it will take the VZW to get it. I'm not talking about Roms built from 4.1 source either, because those mean nothing to me without the corresponding VZW specific firmware to match.
Also we should keep an eye out for a jelly bean statue to be put up at Mountain View soon ....like in the next day or two if they are going to out JB this week.
That's really the question: will we Toro users be able to build ROMs from the source once Jellybean is released, or will we be forced to wait for proprietary Verizon files that come with the official release.
If 4.1 really is unwrapped this week i don't even want to think about how long it will take the VZW to get it. I'm not talking about Roms built from 4.1 source either, because those mean nothing to me without the corresponding VZW specific firmware to match.
Also we should keep an eye out for a jelly bean statue to be put up at Mountain View soon ....like in the next day or two if they are going to out JB this week.
ICS the end of fragmentation? How? The only way I could see that being the case is if Google updated every Android phone directly from their own offices, but then you'd get an outcry from Samsung and HTC because their crappy overlay suddenly wouldn't work. And it's not how it is anyhow.
Anyway, looking forward to AOKP on 4.1...
Its a given that they've probably had it for a while in a test cycle,
I would bet you that Google is already coding for Android 5.0
The key point of fragmentation that ICS was supposed to address was the difference between phones and tablets. The key reason that it hasn't come to all devices is the big changes that were made between 2.3 and 4.0. Custom UIs had to be rewritten and slimmed down (which was a good thing).
I think they are coding for 12.5 already. They are just taking it as it comes, but these guys have ideas that they want out there. They just don't have them finished. Some things may show up in JB and some in KLP. Other may not show up until they get to S or T.
We may not even see JB on phones this year. It may just be on a Tablet for a while and not show up to phones until this fall. At that time we may also see a bunch of phones getting upgraded to it.
I just wanted to be the first to ask...
Will it be available for the GNex?
If so, when will it be released?
Speculation is encouraged.
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