**6 Month update with the Iphone 5**

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  1. trophynuts

    trophynuts Well-Known Member

    Some of you may know that I was once a Guide here on AF which I enjoyed. In October of last year I decided to give the Iphone 5 a try. When I did that I felt that I probably shouldn't be a Guide any longer and PM'ed good ol Steven to say I was going to take a break from being a Guide for a while. Here is my 6 months of Iphone life update.

    What made me swap you ask?
    The Galaxy Nexus and Android did. First and foremost I had horrible luck with the GNex. I know a lot of people out there look at their GNex as the best phone they've ever had. However as we all know everyone's mileage
    differs and personally for me it was the worst PoS i've ever owned. I also think the majority rules on the side of people not having the best time with the GNex. For me it was a combination of HORRIBLE SIGNAL which made
    the VERY BAD BATTERY LIFE EVEN WORSE. I should clarify that my GNex was the VZW variant. I should also clarify that the GNex wasn't my first Android device. I cut my teeth on the DX which I also got on launch day and rooted and rom'd it as well as my wife's incredible. Before you start the comments of "dang trophy you should've rooted it". I did that. In fact I was the first in line at my local VZW store the day they came out. I went straight home, helped maintain the All Things Root forum that day and rooted and unlocked mine from day one. I tried several Roms and Kernels. NOTHING EVER MADE IT WORK AS A PHONE FIRST. Sure the battery life would get a little better, but that is it. It got to where everytime I mentioned something about battery life the answer was always " well turn this off well turn that off, turn location services off, turn LTE off if you don't need it blah blah blah"....Folks i'm sorry to tell you but that should not be the solution to battery life. My problems aside from the GNex were growing frustrations of Android in general. Why can't the Android team ever give firm dates for updates, meaning Android versions not dates it will arrive on devices? Why so many small incremental updates? What happened to making an update worth it? It was at this time that I realized I needed a break from it all......enter the Iphone 5.

    I had already bought my wife one, because lets face it, the Iphones are more user friendly out of the box. I bought mine in October from my local Apple store. Black 64gb version for VZW. I should also note that I
    already had other Apple products. Ipad, MBA, MBP, ipod. My first impressions of the I5 was ..."wow it fits in my pocket now" "hey i can reach the corner of the screen with my thumb when holding it with one hand and I don't have a fear of dropping it" and best of all. ....WOW THIS BATTERY LAST FOREVER.

    Read this carefully....I did not turn one thing off besides bluetooth.. I never turn LTE off, I never turn ANY location services off for any apps and I leave wifi on constantly even if i'm not going to be in range of a wifi spot for hours at a time. First full day on a full charge it reached 26 hours on one charge. Yes I said 26 hours. Mind you that was including new phone-itis when everyone plays with a phone non stop when you first get it. I will try and fast forward the rest of this.

    Battery Life
    Being unlocked and a frequent international traveler I have bought pre paid Nano Sims and popped it in and it worked like a champ
    Form Factor
    I didn't have to screw around with rooting and romming in order for it to be a phone

    It was and still is hard for me to type on the smaller keyboard
    Sometimes I do miss the bigger screen
    non standard cable for charging
    not being able to easily put it in silent mode. You only have ringer or vibrate unless you manually put it in "do not disturb" mode.

    So there are things that I miss with Android. However the positives for me out weigh the positives and negatives that I had with the GNex. I can't stress battery life enough. Has my device slowed down over time? Sure but it's still smoother than my GNex was. Has my battery life decreased over time? Sure but I still easily stomp the GNex battery life in a mudhole. Some may say "why didn't you just try another device on Android"? My answer is because I needed a break because of all the frustration in general. Some of you will say " well I've never had a problem with any of my devices or my GNex is awesome and i get 20 hours on a charge easily"..ok that is fine if it works for you. I'm talking about my experience with it. Since making the move one thing that does frustrate me is this. The constant bashing on both sides of the fence. I know it will always happen and is entertaining at times but honestly if you have never used the other sides device for yourself for an extended period of time then you really don't know what you're talking about when you say " oh apple is stupid" "oh Android is better" "or I don't like the way Apple does this". It doesn't matter what you're friend told you about his experience with whichever device in question. It doesn't matter what you read on a blog site about some writer didn't like Apple or Android for this reason. It matters about personal experience and that is it. So have an open mind people. Make comments based on facts not rumors and ignorant thinking. If you tell me that the Iphone sucks because of whatever reason, the first thing I want to ask is " have you ever used one for more than a few weeks"? Most people probably say no to that. ...Face Palm.:rolleyes:

    The future for me. I do want to get back into the Android hobby, but not in a phone. I'm waiting on the Nexus 7 refresh and then i'll be back in the game to some extent. I AM looking forward to the IOS7 update. The Good thing with Apple is you KNOW they will push a major update every fall. Oh yeah guess what??....They update the phones when they want and VZW DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE UPDATE PROCESS!!!!!!. Some of you will say well they stole features from Android and put them in IOS7. Ok so what? I don't care where they came from. I leave you with this.....

    Have an open mind, Use whatever product works best for you no matter the brand. Be willing to give each side a chance.

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  2. pbf98

    pbf98 Well-Known Member Contributor

    That is the one thing I like most about apple, they decide when the phones are going to be updated, not your carrier. I think it should just be that way through out the phone market.

    Good review from the dark side ;)
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  3. AntimonyER

    AntimonyER AF Addict VIP Member

    Glad to hear you are happy trophy. :)

    But stop trying to steal our members!

    J/K! ;)

    I was in the same boat as you, horrible signal with GNex. But I switched to the Droid DNA and have never been happier! I will put it's signal strength against any other phone on Verizon :)
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  4. trophynuts

    trophynuts Well-Known Member

    lol if it makes you feel any better I haven't joined any Iphone Forums.
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  5. breadnatty08

    breadnatty08 pain rustique VIP Member

    Glad to hear your thoughts on it, Trophy. :)
    I too am tired of the battery life on my Gnex, even with a brand new, extended battery.
    Really am hoping Verizon will release a new phone this year with a Maxx like battery (I know the Note 2 and G4 are pretty beasty with battery life, just not ready for an upgrade).
    But, like you said, I don't think I could move down to a smaller screen.
  6. trophynuts

    trophynuts Well-Known Member

    Yeah there definitely have been compromises but for me it's been worth it so far. I too had the extended battery from VZW for my GNex which may have added an hour at best.
  7. Rxpert83

    Rxpert83 Dr. Feelgood Moderator

    The gnex had terrible battery life. That's just a fact of life. The current generation phones have amazing battery life. I had to get one serviced lately and ran a gnex for a few weeks and it was tough.

    Glad you enjoy your iPhone. Android isn't for everyone (the same goes for apple)
  8. El Presidente

    El Presidente Beware The Milky Pirate! Moderator

    Nice, honest insight. :)

    Is your mind made up completely, you'll never get another Android phone?
  9. trophynuts

    trophynuts Well-Known Member

    No I wouldn't say that. If the right device came out for VZW and had good enough reviews i would go back.
  10. AntimonyER

    AntimonyER AF Addict VIP Member

    Nexus 6 with VoLTE ;) unlocked on Verizon.
  11. trophynuts

    trophynuts Well-Known Member

  12. NYCHitman1

    NYCHitman1 Gun for Hire Developer

    Whatever drug you've been smoking lately, you might want to stop taking it lol.
  13. Stinky Stinky

    Stinky Stinky Well-Known Member

    Well I am really glad you got what makes you happy!

    I got a 3GS 2nd hand for a really good price recently.

    I really do like the speed and all that but what sometimes pulls me off is the "iLock" thingies. :)

    Can't even grab the SDK on Windows for ***** sake!

    But I forgot how much I really like them even though they really don't want you to program on anything else but their R100000000 Mac! :D

    I so agree though buddy!

    Do what makes you happy :)

    Like doing something like this ek se! :)

  14. kevincott

    kevincott Well-Known Member Contributor

    In all fairness you are comparing an older phone that was (guessing) $299 the day you purchased it to a brand new phone that (guessing) was $650.

    Anyone purchasing a GS4 or HTC One would probably find much better reception, battery life and smoothness in comparison to the GNex.

    Glad your happy with the Iphone5. In the end your happiness as a consumer is all that matters in the iOS vs Android debate.
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  15. trophynuts

    trophynuts Well-Known Member

    price has nothing to do with it. You compared the on contract price of the GNex (299) to a full retail price of a newer phone (649)

    The GS4 nor the HTCone didn't even exist in October of last year when i purchased the I5. Not to mention the HTCone still not being available on VZW. I was not going to spend money on another Sammy phone so that meant the SGS3 was not an option either.
  16. jhawkkw

    jhawkkw Chinchillin' Moderator

    The Razr Maxx HD came out in October last year, which probably would have your battery/signal woes. But yeah, I'm glad the iPhone is treating you well. :)
  17. kevincott

    kevincott Well-Known Member Contributor

    Weren't both the GNex and Nex4 $299 with no contract? Sold on the Google website without a contract?

    edit: I wasn't looking to be argumentative, just pointing out newer phones should perform better.
  18. jhawkkw

    jhawkkw Chinchillin' Moderator

    The CDMA Gnex was 649 originally without at contract when it was released.
    The GSM Gnex eventually came to Google Play and was sold for 350 without a contract.
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  19. kevincott

    kevincott Well-Known Member Contributor

    Did not know. This makes the phone comparison a bit more apples-to-apples.

    When you pay top price for a phone it should have great reception and good battery life.
  20. jhawkkw

    jhawkkw Chinchillin' Moderator

    Yeah, though at the time of Gnex Launch (Nov/Dec 2011), Apple was only a couple months into the 4S launch. The Gnex was one of the last phones to run the A9 chips + separate radios for both CDMA & LTE. Those three separate chips caused enormous power consumption and hence the bad battery life. The 4S would have had equally bad battery life under the same circumstance. However with the adaption of the A15 krait chips, with radios on board the chip, power consumption was significantly reduced and thus battery life increased. Which is why phones these days get a lot more battery life. A CDMA/LTE Gnex would be lucky to get 2-2.5 hours of screen time back in the day where now the norm is closer to 4-5 hours.

    Therefore comparing the Gnex to the iPhone 5 still is comparing apples to oranges because they're separated by almost a full year of release and thus innovation; and in the tech world that is a long time.
  21. Granite1

    Granite1 Zercron Encrusted Tweezer Moderator

    Good to see you Trophy, and really glad you're enjoying your 5 :)

    I really don't understand what the issue was with the Gnex. I got one for my Father-in-law, it's on Sprint, and he doesn't have any issues. I rooted and rom'd it the instant I got it home, but still seems strange. Maybe it's the newer JB kernel, IDK?

    The LTEvo gets 20-30 hours for me regularly, but I don't pound it either.

    In the end what works for you is what's best my man. Also remember:

    Don't be a stranger my man. :)
  22. trophynuts

    trophynuts Well-Known Member

    didn't think of it that way at all sir :)
  23. trophynuts

    trophynuts Well-Known Member

    but the 4S didn't have LTE. You're right though about the chips, and I knew that with the next gen chips efficiency would be better but as i said i had to bounce for a while and take a break. Lets also not forget that the CDMA Gnex had horrible signal strength something that is independent of what type of chip is in it. Had the CDMA Gnex had a newer chip i bet the battery life would still below average because of that. During my trials and tribulations i did have a Droid RAZR for about two days. Yes the signal was much much better but then i was also giving up features that the GNex had.
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  24. funkylogik

    funkylogik share the love peeps ;) VIP Member

    Excellent OP and some great replies :beer:
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  25. Stinky Stinky

    Stinky Stinky Well-Known Member

    Heeeello! :)

    Well I am not Bill Gates ya know! ;)

    I am more like this cool dude here:


    I gotz style ek se! :D

    But what ever youz do just get what makes you look like this ek se!


    And not look like this bruizer!


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