Disappointed in Sprints speeds in your area?

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  1. NYCHitman1

    NYCHitman1 Gun for Hire Developer

    Did some speedtests and here were my results. I have seen upwards of 15 down on some occasions w/ WiMAX, but in this instance it was slightly above 10. My 3G wasn't that great, but I always tend to have a low ping which is nice.



  2. jericko

    jericko Well-Known Member

    I have had my EVO for 2 years now, and never got to experience 4G in my local area (Omaha, Nebraska). When I ditch my HTC Touch Pro 2 to go to the EVO, the Sprint store I purchased it from told me Omaha was due to get 4G (wimax) within a few months. Fast Forward two years and now that I am thinking about getting the EVO LTE, I probably wont get to experience 4G LTE for another 2 years. All my friends/Co-Workers/Family have Verizon and are rocking 4G LTE in Omaha. If I was not on a Sero plan and Verizon has unlimited data plans, I would jump in a second.
  3. HippiePeace

    HippiePeace Member

    I know what ya mean. I've had my EVO for almost a year now. When my husband and I bought our phone they said 4g was going to be coming to us soon. I live in Lansing, MI, to use 4g usually we have to go to a bigger city sometimes we pick it up but it's not very often that we do. I don't think I have ever used my 4g, by the time I'm able to upgrade I hope Sprint has the whole LTE thing figured out by then and is in my area.
  4. Rxpert83

    Rxpert83 Dr. Feelgood Moderator

    Personally, 4G is a big waste of battery for me. Yes, its a faster data connection, but I could (and do) easily go without it just fine.

    What do you need that fast of a connection for? Is waiting 20 more seconds for angry birds to download really gonna grind your gears that much? :p

    I will be in one of the first 4G LTE areas that are rolling out, but I want to upgrade my EVO phone for the improved processing power, and couldn't care less about 4G.

    You also have to keep in mind that sprint is basically broke. So when it started to become clear to them that this whole WIMAX thing wasnt gonig to work out I don't really blame them for putting a halt to WIMAX and focusing on getting LTE rolled out
  5. Boomer8450

    Boomer8450 New Member

    If it makes you feel better, sprints 4G maps have shown my house to have 4G for at least a year and a half, and have yet to connect to 4G once in my city. :rolleyes:
  6. BenChase7

    BenChase7 VIP Member VIP Member

    I feel your pain.. HaHa...
    thank Goodness for Network Vision!


    I lust did a speed test and got over 1.7Mbps down and about 500Kbps up... I'm in north PHX
  7. Lorak

    Lorak Well-Known Member

    Still horrible here.
  8. RedSun

    RedSun Active Member

    i share your pain.

  9. topher_csr

    topher_csr Active Member

    my phone has been getting slower and slower with anything that has to do with the internet. has anyone else came across this? i can barely load facebook now, and web pages take forever to load. has sprint stopped supporting their 3g network?
  10. marctronixx

    marctronixx Moderator Moderator


    more info is needed:

    1. are you rooted
    2. what carrier are you on?
    3. is this your first handset?
    4. have you installed any apps or uninstalled any apps prior to this issue?
    5. are you using WIFI or cellular?
  11. topher_csr

    topher_csr Active Member

    1. not rooted-but thinking about it, just need to find the time
    2. Sprint
    3. Second handset
    4. no new apps
    5. cellular-mostly 3g

    thanks for any help.
  12. damewolf13

    damewolf13 live~laugh~love VIP Member

    My husband has this phone with Sprint, and he says that the only time the data/network isn't running painfully slow is in the middle of the night.:(
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  13. marctronixx

    marctronixx Moderator Moderator

    could be slow speeds in your area due to the LTE build out. I would contact sprint and give them your zip code and let them see if your area is being affected by the build out.
  14. Rush

    Rush {<>}~{<>}

    I'm getting the same problem as well using 3g. 4g seems to be the same. I think Sprint is about to turn on their enhanced 3g and 4g Lte networks in selected cities. Either that are their 3g speeds has gotten worse.
  15. Nalej

    Nalej Well-Known Member

    Sprint 3G has always been terrible. I only use it if I absolutely have to.
    Even then, I'll try and wait til I'm near a WiFi spot
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  16. asaberan

    asaberan Well-Known Member

    Sprint's 3G is absolutely abysmal. It isn't even usable, in my opinion. In some places it's worse than others. It was never "great", but it is certainly worse since the iPhone came to Sprint, along with I'm sure many many additional phones that require a data plan other than iPhones using up all the bandwidth.
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  17. JAJameson2010

    JAJameson2010 Well-Known Member

    I moved to sprint for the unlimited data and got the 4G phone since Wilmington has 4G service... In the 1.5 years I have never been able to get more than a fleeting 4G signal while driving in the car. It lasts for almost 3 minutes usually! I had horrible service at home so they gave me a free AirRave. So the phone just about works perfectly at home and I use almost 4 Gigs of Data each month, so I will be disgruntled but stay for now...

    There is nothing comparable for me to hop too. I am considering not using my upgrade in Feb so I don't extend out my contract though... Can't hurt to keep options open ;)
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  18. Speed Daemon

    Speed Daemon Disabled

    First of all I don't subscribe to the massive advertising hype that says over and over and over that getting insanely "fast" network "speeds" (the last time I checked, c is the same no matter the brand) is a life-or-death matter. I've been satisfied with Sprint's data rates in general. Even when my MicroTAC's 19.2 kbps serial modem adapter was put to use when my phone service went out, that was roughly 2/3rds of the ~30 kbps that my dial-up modem gave me back before DSL arrived in my neighborhood.

    The thing is that I just don't download the huge files to my phone, or do anything that really calls for extreme throughput. I know people who browse content-rich websites all day long on their phones' tiny screens, and I think they're daffy.

    I've been quite satisfied with Sprint's EVDO Rel.0 and Rev.A data devices when I used them. Of course I chose the Sierra Wireless models that have the all-important antenna jack. It would be foolish to try to use the tiny radios from inside cars without a proper rooftop antenna. That's just common sense.

    There's no denying that Sprint's big folly was to go all-in on WiMAX instead of building out their CDMA2000 plant. To be fair, everybody was drubbing WiMAX as the heir apparent to the mobile data crown. Sometimes the best choice just doesn't win. That doesn't explain the on again, off again relationship with WiMAX partner Clearwire or cutting their losses when it became apparent that WiMAX couldn't meet its claims.

    Here in Madison our home-town ILEC, TDS, has been trying to make its WiMAX plant work, and finally gave up a few months ago. One interesting thing I noticed was that they insisted that their WiMAX customers use rooftop antennas. Not on their cars, on their houses! Apparently the 802.11 version that was made from the ground up for high speeds (as in cars on a highway) couldn't cut it at 0 MPH. Sprint must have known that, but wasted at least three years while the competition moved to OOB technology, if only to keep up with the CDMA providers' EVDO data rates.

    Now that cellphone data use has exploded, the unlimited (in-band) channel assignment to data streams that made EVDO king in the '00s has Sprint scrambling to add capacity (and no doubt to sometimes throttle) their now-obsolete in-band data service that they can't give up because successful WiMAX users are few and far between. Yes, Sprint has been in a pickle, and for way too long. And there's no end in sight.

    The problem is spectrum. On one hand, Sprint/Clearwire's data frequencies in a nice big chunk, that should give them an enviable advantage, and might have given them a jump on the competition. On the other, we have Clearwire. As David Bowie put it "I'm stuck with a valuable friend". Sprint can't repurpose that prime bandwidth to LTE because Clearwire is still using them for WiMAX. Sprint can't afford to pay off Clearwire, which is what they are hoping for. And they have nothing to lose because they're moribund as it stands. Boy, wouldn't it be great if some bank would open up its big fat wallet and invest on what could be a great comeback!

    A lot of Sprint's competition is heavily invested in LTE, and have some of it up working now. But they're heavily invested in some very costly 700MHz spectrum licenses that I believe are going to cause all kinds of problems when it comes to trying to fit a very long wavelength in PCS phone dimensions into those tiny PCS phones. I predict that early adopters of the new 700MHz phones will suffer from some pretty severe reception problems. The 700MHz licensees will probably try to kludge up a fix, and then end up dumping their 700MHz band licenses at fire sale prices to the fixed terrestrial wireless data providers.

    Some smart investor could make a bundle by making Sprint the first all-IP cellular provider, using LTE and VoIP for data and telephony. That would be fitting, since the original Sprint company was the first long distance company (remember them?) to go all-digital.
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  19. varaonaid

    varaonaid Well-Known Member

    I don't know what to do. We recently switched to Sprint and the 3G speeds are shockingly slow. I can't download anything from the play store and I can't watch any video. I'm also having weird issues with my radio/cell reception so Sprint wants me to take it to the local repair shop and have them give it the once over.

    I like what they stand for, the fact that they are green and eco friendly and the fact that they recently got the investment funds needed to complete Network Vision by the end of 2013.

    We were with VZW but my husbands phone was stolen during a medical emergency and they would do NOTHING to help, even though we were tracking the phone with Google Latitude. So we either pay hundreds of dollars to replace my husbands phone as the old one that he's currently using is dying. Or, we both get new Galazy S3's for a few hundred bucks after all the promos they have going on right now and when we sell my current phone, it almost comes out free to switch to Sprint. Please tell me I'm not crazy and that they will follow through with Network Vision...soon!
  20. coorsleftfield

    coorsleftfield New Member

    Sprint's unlimited data can be compared to taking so someone to a lake and saying they can have unlimited water, but they have to take it through a straw
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  21. Mr. Ed

    Mr. Ed Well-Known Member

    Well said

    It's one thing to know there is an issue and do nothing about it, they are making changes for the better and in more areas than just Network Vision
  22. Speed Daemon

    Speed Daemon Disabled

    I wish I could, but the fact is that nobody can keep that promise, not even Sprint. I don't mean to say that Sprint isn't going to accomplish it; I just mean that they don't have an insurance policy that will guarantee it happens on time if something goes wrong. Kind of like with your husband's phone, if you follow me.

    Sprint's EVDO system is pretty solid, but it's a "rob Peter to pay Paul" arrangement. EVDO gives and takes blocks of capacity and allocates them to voice or data as needed. That's great when there are more blocks than demand for them. But with so many smart phones having continuous data sessions, it's now a matter of trying to be fair to data users while keeping voice calls as reliable as POTS. The technical challenge is kind of like changing all your clothes in a subcompact car, over and over.
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  23. SurrealOne

    SurrealOne Well-Known Member

    When routing Voice and Data even in the wireless world Voice is always priority over data just the same as a wired network or even a POTS(plan old telephone system) Just like a VOIP system it's all a matter of routing and setting QOS. No matter what voice must work data can drop but voice must work.
  24. Speed Daemon

    Speed Daemon Disabled

    You're in the neighborhood, although it seems that you're looking more from the POV of the customer premises equipment user than that of a network engineer.

    In the wireline telco business, voice becomes data at the central office. PSTN companies still use a network protocol called ATM (not where you get money) that's comparable to TCP/IP and business networking protocols like IPX/SPX, NetBEUI, DECnet and SNA. ATM is how your phone calls spend most of their time. One nice thing about ATM is that it doesn't require the 802.1 TCP/IP QoS extensions. It's automatic. The problem is that there's so much data moving around that ATM is no longer efficient at high throughputs, so many ATM plants are having to add Ethernet over fiber and TCP/IP to make faster backbones. The old OC networks will be a thing of the past before long. Technology moves fast. :)

    When it comes to wireless carriers, the "voice comes first" quasi-rule is one that they try hard to follow. But it's getting harder and harder with so many smart phones on the air. The logical solution is to quit using separate equipment for voice and data, and use an established IP protocol like H.323, SIP or IAX to carry voice traffic. I already have a Vonage extension "line" on my smart phone, so I can make voice calls on indoor Wi-Fi networks when Sprint coverage is bad.

    The whole "voice comes first" thing is a custom, not a rule of course. Some wireless carriers might opt to give non-911 callers a busy signal in some areas.
  25. SurrealOne

    SurrealOne Well-Known Member

    any network engineer would use the very standard rule You may not. But I have built many networks and I set a range or scope of IP's for Data and if the network has VOIP and I add a scope of IP's for voice. Voice over data all the time. And yes data and voice are the same to telco but to the end user it is not the same. And most users still do not understand how DSL even works. And yes most ATM's are adding fiber even OC is old new like you said. When it comes to wireless the Voice over data RULE still applys. I do agree with you and for sure you are coming from a telco side of things but like you said technolgy moves fast and even to fast for the old telco's to handle. I think I can say we agree to agree on this one :)

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