Do you convert movies ? - not running smoothly ?

[SpookiePower]

I have some problems with playing movies on my Incredible S. In the first few days all the movies I did play, was running smoothly. But now they all seems to lag a bit - but sound works just fine.

I have tried to convert them from VOB/AVI to m4v, using handbrake, changing the bitrate, changing the size of the file from between 600mb-150mb, but all of them seems to run with a little lag.

I have tried these players - RockPlayer, DoubleTwist, MoboPlayer and VitalPlayer Pro.

I can't imagine the all these players are not good enough to play these movies, so I guess it must be my phone - or me, when I convert the movies to a single file.

Someone out there who can help here ?

 

[Usta]

If your videos are in AVI, you probably don't have to convert them.
For VOB files, I would also use Handbrake to convert them.
Please use MP4 container instead of M4V.

Download MeidaInfo, open the converted file, select the text output format and copy the information displayed here. We can see then if the parameters used are correct.

 

[SpookiePower]

When I use Handbrake, I select M4V, but I'll try to the MP4 next.

I guess you mean MediaInfo I'll try it.

 

[SpookiePower]

This one is not running smoothly -

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L3.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 41mn 42s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 1 009 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 568 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.099
Stream size : 301 MiB (86%)
Writing library : x264 core 112
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=2 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x1:0x111 / me=hex / subme=6 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=3 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=2 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=0 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=1009 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=3 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Encoded date : UTC 2011-04-04 05:51:04
Tagged date : UTC 2011-04-04 06:40:00
Color primaries : BT.601-6 525, BT.1358 525, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.601-6 525, BT.1358 525, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 41mn 42s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 160 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 313 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 47.7 MiB (14%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2011-04-04 05:51:04
Tagged date : UTC 2011-04-04 06:40:00

Text
ID : 3
Format : Apple text
Codec ID : text
Duration : 41mn 42s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 0
Stream size : 138 Bytes (0%)
Encoded date : UTC 2011-04-04 05:51:04
Tagged date : UTC 2011-04-04 06:40:00


This one, is running just fine - is there any different between the two movies ?

General
Complete name : G:\Movies\Alt Om Loeb 02.avi
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
File size : 201 MiB
Duration : 24mn 38s
Overall bit rate : 1 137 Kbps
Writing library : VirtualDub build 32839/release

Video
ID : 0
Format : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile : Advanced Simple@L5
Format settings, BVOP : 1
Format settings, QPel : No
Format settings, GMC : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix : Default (H.263)
Muxing mode : Packed bitstream
Codec ID : XVID
Codec ID/Hint : XviD
Duration : 24mn 38s
Bit rate : 1 000 Kbps
Width : 624 pixels
Height : 352 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.182
Stream size : 176 MiB (88%)
Writing library : XviD 1.2.1 (UTC 2008-12-04)

Audio
ID : 1
Format : MPEG Audio
Format version : Version 1
Format profile : Layer 3
Mode : Joint stereo
Codec ID : 55
Codec ID/Hint : MP3
Duration : 24mn 38s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 128 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 22.6 MiB (11%)
Alignment : Split accross interleaves
Interleave, duration : 40 ms (1.00 video frame)
Interleave, preload duration : 500 ms
Writing library : LAME3.98.4

 

[Usta]

LOL, yes I meant MediaInfo.

Yes, the encoding is much complexer in the first video. However, it is also more efficient by utilizing a more modern codec.

OK, regarding the first video, you have made the encoding unnecessarily complex. Here is what I'd suggest to do:

* Choose a standard profile in Handbrake - Set it to "Universal"
* Video - Format settings, CABAC : Yes - Set this to "No".
* Video - Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames - Set this to "2".

 

[SpookiePower]

Thanks I'll try it later today

 

[sitlet]

LOL, yes I meant MediaInfo.

Yes, the encoding is much complexer in the first video. However, it is also more efficient by utilizing a more modern codec.

OK, regarding the first video, you have made the encoding unnecessarily complex. Here is what I'd suggest to do:

* Choose a standard profile in Handbrake - Set it to "Universal"
* Video - Format settings, CABAC : Yes - Set this to "No".
* Video - Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames - Set this to "2".

Also, you should be using the baseline codec version of h264, not Main@3.0.

Text
ID : 3
Format : Apple text
Codec ID : text
Duration : 41mn 42s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 0
Stream size : 138 Bytes (0%)
Encoded date : UTC 2011-04-04 05:51:04
Tagged date : UTC 2011-04-04 06:40:00

This also could be your problem. it looks like this video has, or had, DRM on it at one point.

 

[Usta]

Also, you should be using the baseline codec version of h264, not Main@3.0.

I don't think he can manually change it in Handbrake.
However, by selecting a "lighter" preset (like Universal), the profile of the converted video gets automatically adjusted to Baseline.

 

[SpookiePower]

Also, you should be using the baseline codec version of h264, not Main@3.0.



This also could be your problem. it looks like this video has, or had, DRM on it at one point.

I am using h264.

DRM...I can't see any where to turn it on/off

 

[SpookiePower]

I don't think he can manually change it in Handbrake.
However, by selecting a "lighter" preset (like Universal), the profile of the converted video gets automatically adjusted to Baseline.

I'm trying the Universal right now. Before I used the Regular.

 

[sitlet]

I am using h264.

yes, but you are using the Main h264 codec. You need to use the Baseline codec. In handbrake, try using the Normal profile instead of the High or Film profile.

DRM...I can't see any where to turn it on/off

You cant just "turn it off". It's copy protection put there by apple to prevent you from viewing it on devices other than itunes/ipod/ipad. You will have to find a way to remove it, you can search on google for some advice.

 

[SpookiePower]

yes, but you are using the Main h264 codec. You need to use the Baseline codec. In handbrake, try using the Normal profile instead of the High or Film profile.



You cant just "turn it off". It's copy protection put there by apple to prevent you from viewing it on devices other than itunes/ipod/ipad. You will have to find a way to remove it, you can search on google for some advice.

I have been using the Normal profile all the time, that I have used Handbrake - and I have had problems with those settings.

Are you saying that if I use other settings, than the Regular, on a Android, I will get problems because of Appels copy protection ?

Now I'm trying the Universal profile, Like Usta told me to do. I'll wait for the result of this convertion, to see if it helps.

 

[sitlet]

Are you saying that if I use other settings, than the Regular, on a Android, I will get problems because of Appels copy protection ?

No. Handbrake does NOT put on the Apple drm, apple does. What i was saying is that the video file you have already has drm.

 

[SpookiePower]

I have tried to convert a few films now, using the Universal profile - it works All films runs just perfect - but the new problem is, that I can't add a subtitle. Well, I still have to option in Handbrake, but on my Andriod the subs are gone, even when I select "Burned In".

 

[Usta]

Subtitles has some limitations in Handbrake, depending if they are internal or external or the type of the subs. Some of them (for example SRT or CC) cannot be burned on the video.
Just try to experiment with them and with different players.