Will Google ever step up its media syncing game?


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  1. billobob

    billobob Member This Topic's Starter

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    One of the few major drawbacks of android is the only application which syncs music with my phone well is doubleTwist, and that's still pretty buggy. is google ever going to get around to having an answer itunes/zune software? even for someone who doesnt mind doing heavy tinkering with the phone/is a geek like myself its annoying that such a mundane process still doesn't have a simple, elegant solution
     

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  2. rogue994

    rogue994 Well-Known Member

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    +1

    All the 3rd party apps I find are buggy at best. You'd figure with all the android phones out there now they'd get something created to manage media rather then just dragging music over.
     
  3. reddragon72

    reddragon72 Well-Known Member

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    I hope they don't. There is really no need for it. I find that dragging and dropping is very easy and since you already do that on your PC on a daily bases, then why go into a program to do it. Also I have found that Windows media player will see your phones SD card and can sync music and movies(in proper format) to your phones SD card and keep it all in sync.

    I don't like Apple for the fact that it is such a closed off system. You are stuck there there way or no way and you really are missing the freedom of doing things your way. I hope Google never closes this off. Also there is a free website kit that you can put together on your PC that will share all your music via and app on your phone. Subsonic. Check it out, as I use it on my windows home server and it works great!
     
  4. bbrosen

    bbrosen Well-Known Member

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    may be fine for those with a few songs, but I have 75 gigs of music. not counting podcasts and audio books or the video I have too. Its about more than syncing, it is about managing all the media as a whole, which itunes does very well. I cannot see google doing anything like making their own program, it would be one more thing to have to give customer support for, which they have a zero track record for. I am sure it will be left to third party devs but when you have a patchwork of apps like android is you will never have the tight integration which gives the experience itunes and apple does. I believe it will always be a buggy situation if people try to integrate with itunes.
     
  5. PurpleSkyz

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    I use iTunes agents, Its not buggy, its just like syncing my old ipod, (I think it doesnt do DRM music, but I never bought music of the internets so I wouldnt know)

    but yea I agree some sort of syncing software would be nice
     
  6. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    Measuring your music in gigs is useless now. Most people have mp3/aac your flavor here files that are way to big, and quite frankly overkill. Anything over 128k (as long as it's encoded properly) is a waste of space. Literally.
     
  7. Eazail70x7

    Eazail70x7 Well-Known Member

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    I have no idea what the ipod sync thing you guys are talking about is. I do have an ipod but am not sure still what you guys mean...

    Need more details on how the media syncing works
     
  8. Mr.Slave

    Mr.Slave Well-Known Member

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    Are you drunk?
     
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    A lot of mine is lossless flaac

    Ok I have a buttload, how is that for measuement?
     
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  10. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    Yes I know exactly how much a butload is?

    And at the drunk comment, a well encoded 128k mp3/aac whatever file type here has no audible difference to a 256k mp3/aac. Check wikipedia before making randomstatements :rolleyes:
     
  11. reddragon72

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    I'm just saying I do not want an Apple environment and the more that Google passes on to developers the better. And there are plenty of alternatives, not to mention that there is no way to fit 75gigs of songs onto your phone so streaming them seems to be a better alternative.
     
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    8GBs fills up pretty quickly. Nothing beats drag and drop if you keep your music organized. If you don't...well you should lol.
     
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  13. LED

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    Being an iPod user, I have my entire music collection in iTunes and definitely want syncing ability like iTunes does. I've found that Salling Media Sync was the only application I knew of that actually uses and syncs only "checked" songs in iTunes. That was key for me because I really only wanted a subset of music in my collection.

    That being said, if anyone desires iTunes like syncing especially if you use the checked songs feature, then try Media Sync. There's nothing wrong with drag and drop but I see that only working for people who copy all or most of their music collection.
     
  14. Andres83

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    Songbird (an open source media player) seems to advertise syncing (and media management of course) with selected phones etc. Might be worth a look.
     
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    I have just downloaded and used Songbird to try with my HTC Desire. It works very well as an organiser and player of music. With support for Smart playlists the same way itunes does it, it looks great. It picked up the phone no problem, synced the selected playlists over to the phone quickly. The UI for device management is reminiscent of the way iTunes does iPod/iPhone, but THAT WORKS so why try to be too different?

    My only grip now is the music player for the desire. Smart playlists are great, but they are useless if I can use my play count data from my device!!
     
  16. fatflatfly

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    I just use spotify now, deleted all my music from computer and just download what i want to listen, think you can download 3333 tracks at anyone time
     
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    well I've heard that the next two updates should focus more on the phone ish (media etc..) aspects, that and they'll help with the fragmenation.
     
  18. sitlet

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    I'm an audio engineer for a major tv network, so I'm pretty sure I know what I am talking about. That statement is false. I can tell the difference between a CD and a 320k mp3, and most people I know can tell the difference between a 128k and a 320k mp3.
     
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  19. JediJesus

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    I predict they will use the cloud for music storage kind of like zumodrive. They will give you 10 gigs of space free and charge you for additional storage. And it will combine with your gmail and picasa accounts. You will be able to download or upload all of your music and have the ability to stream from any internet connected device. I hope this makes sense.
     
  20. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    I highly doubt that. You know, science and all that. But hey, what do we need science for.
     
  21. Penguissimo

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    Don't forget it depends on the music you're listening to and the equipment you're using to listen to it. Sure, if you're listening to heavy metal on a Droid using $10 Skullcandy earbuds, you can throw low-bitrate MP3s on there and you'll never know the difference. But even a $50 set of earbuds reveals the very obvious compression artifacts of a 128 kbps MP3 file, especially if it's a classical or jazz recording. As soon as you have equipment capable of reproducing audio with even minimum accuracy, it becomes almost painful to hear the low-bitrate files.

    And if you use any kind of professional-quality equipment
     
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    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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  23. Penguissimo

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    But there still is a difference between 128kbps and, say, 320. It's not like something either sounds "compressed" or "not compressed". It's a sliding scale, not a binary switch.

    And VBR doesn't entirely moot things; you still need to pick an average bitrate.
     
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    And what exactly do you mean by "properly encoded"? MP3 is a lossy codec, so anytime you compress a file to 128k, you're going to lose quality.
     
  25. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    Meaning having GOOD ripping software vs BAD ripping software. Other factors as well, i.e. the source of the rip.
     

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