Root Rooting today--wifi tether...ROMS?

[muab]

Finally going to make the root leap on my D1 today.

I have some pretty specific and limited needs and I have been reading EVERYTHING on rooting for the last two weeks and still don't have a clear idea on a few tidbits.

Here is what I hope to achieve by rooting:

1. Wireless wifi tether

2. Improved battery life

3. Eliminate my wifi problems that came with FRG01B OTA

4. Be AT LEAST as smooth and fast as my current setup

5. Be AT LEAST as reliable/bug-free as my current stock Froyo

I am entirely satisfied with the look and feel of my device so I don't NEED to have any themes etc...

I know through research that some ROM's provide easy wifi tethering and some do not. I need one that does since that is my prime requirement.

I am also concerned about the new OTA this week screwing up my root access before or after I root the device.

In reading a bazillion threads everyone keeps saying that each phone is unique in what ROMS/Kernels the phone will "like" which I find quite baffling honestly...but I guess you all know what you are talking about.

I would not even change ROM or kernel if I can achieve my 5 requirements, but from what I see, I do need to change my ROM at the least.

Any recommendations on which ROM's to try? Please note any ROM that does not allow easy wifi tethering is a waste of my time.

I already have ROM Manager, SetCPU and Titanium Backup all queued up on APPBrain for me and I will be pulling the trigger on this today.

I have read all the instructions on rooting the "hard way" and the "easy way" and my time is very valuable so I will use easyroot or the other one...Universal Androot.

Thank you all for any help or suggestions.

 

[gnath9]

sounds like you know what your doing !!!

I am not positive but I think my wifi tether is still working fine since I loaded up Lithium Mod with P3's 1200 kernel. It can be had all in one shot from rom manager premium and you get a theme of your choice tossed in !!!

I think your gonna be fine and achieve all your goals If you run into any problems I'm sure all these fine folks will be here to help you out if needed

 

[burntorangefan]

Your needs were similar to mine, although the more I learn about my rooted phone the more they seem to change...

Given what you've written above and my personal experience with Liquid, I'd say flashing LFY 1.5 and then either rolling with the stock 800 kernel or flashing the slayher 1000 kernel would be a great setup for you. WiFi tether is included and for me has worked without a hitch. IMO, this is the smoothest, fastest setup with the best battery life I've experienced. Other ROMs such as Cyanogenmod offer more customizable options, but it definitely sounded like you don't care too much about that. For sheer speed and efficiency, I'd say Liquid is hands down the winner and my comparisons with it are based on BB, CM and Chevy 4.6 (I haven't tried 4.7 because I'm settled in with LFY now)...Hope that helps. As an aside, the Black n Bold theme is really slick and gives the phone a really sophisticated look, IMO. Hope that helps.

 

[burntorangefan]

I think any kernel above 800 or 1000 will cause you to see decreased battery life...you just hit a threshold where battery gets very diminishing returns due to the awesome speed...At 1100 or greater, my phone really started to lose battery quickly. Granted, the phone ran lights out fast, but I needed the combo of superfast and good battery life, so settled in on 1000.

Finally, if you haven't already, I'd queue up either Astro if you don't have it or Root Explorer...you're going to need a good file manager (root expl is better but is a paid app) and you're probably going to run a few scripts and you'll need Terminal Emulator to do that...

 

[muab]

sounds like you know what your doing !!!

I am not positive but I think my wifi tether is still working fine since I loaded up Lithium Mod with P3's 1200 kernel. It can be had all in one shot from rom manager premium and you get a theme of your choice tossed in !!!

I think your gonna be fine and achieve all your goals If you run into any problems I'm sure all these fine folks will be here to help you out if needed

Well that is very kind of you to say. I would say that I know what my problems are and I have a rough idea of the map needed to solve them. Beyond that I am a bit out to sea I am afraid.

I did not see RM premium in the market so I presume that is a donation upgrade...?

 

[gnath9]

yes ... and you must install the free version first.

and you should be a little afraid lol ... Take your time ... do your homework ... and follow the directions to the letter.

 

[Jcarmicha]

yes ... and you must install the free version first.

and you should be a little afraid lol ... Take your time ... do your homework ... and follow the directions to the letter.

gnath knows it best I actually took the dive about a week in a half prior through the EasyRoot method and absolutely love it. As long as you have done your research everything should go through without a problem.

I installed Cyanogen due to it being the first Rom I actually knew of as well as being very user friendly.

gnath has told me a lot of great things about Lithium so that'll be my next step.

Good luck with the process!

 

[muab]

I think any kernel above 800 or 1000 will cause you to see decreased battery life...you just hit a threshold where battery gets very diminishing returns due to the awesome speed...At 1100 or greater, my phone really started to lose battery quickly. Granted, the phone ran lights out fast, but I needed the combo of superfast and good battery life, so settled in on 1000.

Finally, if you haven't already, I'd queue up either Astro if you don't have it or Root Explorer...you're going to need a good file manager (root expl is better but is a paid app) and you're probably going to run a few scripts and you'll need Terminal Emulator to do that...

Yes, I really did not intend to OC to any great extent. My phone seems pretty fast stock. I would rather keep the same speed and get much better battery life.

I have Androzip for file managing. I had EStrong but I like the look of Androzip better. Astro always seemed odd to me.

I will have to look into terminal emulator. I hadn't heard that one yet.

 

[glitch32]

yes ... and you must install the free version first.

and you should be a little afraid lol ... Take your time ... do your homework ... and follow the directions to the letter.

Agreed!

BTW, Lithium Mod is great!, it's very quick and I've had pretty good battery life. It's not as good as stock, but that's because it's OC'd, so I expect it.

 

[gnath9]

Agreed!

BTW, Lithium Mod is great!, it's very quick and I've had pretty good battery life. It's not as good as stock, but that's because it's OC'd, so I expect it.

wich kernel did you choose ?

 

[burntorangefan]

Yes, I really did not intend to OC to any great extent. My phone seems pretty fast stock. I would rather keep the same speed and get much better battery life.

I have Androzip for file managing. I had EStrong but I like the look of Androzip better. Astro always seemed odd to me.

I will have to look into terminal emulator. I hadn't heard that one yet.

Pretty much all of the ROMs (except maybe Cyanogen?) OC the stock 550 mHz. It seems to me having tried several of them that 800 is the "standard" OC that each ROM starts with...for example, LFY has a standard kernel for 800 and I think I remember BB and Lithium being the same. As I mentioned earlier, I get really good speed and battery life with the LFY and slayher 1000 kernel...using SetCPU to govern...

Last thing, Terminal Emulator enables you to run different scripts to remove bloatware, enable certain functions that are available, but not standard like removing all ads from apps and things like that.

 

[muab]

Pretty much all of the ROMs (except maybe Cyanogen?) OC the stock 550 mHz. It seems to me having tried several of them that 800 is the "standard" OC that each ROM starts with...for example, LFY has a standard kernel for 800 and I think I remember BB and Lithium being the same. As I mentioned earlier, I get really good speed and battery life with the LFY and slayher 1000 kernel...using SetCPU to govern...

Last thing, Terminal Emulator enables you to run different scripts to remove bloatware, enable certain functions that are available, but not standard like removing all ads from apps and things like that.

I think I heard that with Froyo the stock CPU is sped up somewhat, so 800 mhz may not be far beyond stock Froyo.

It is odd to me that more people don't discuss Sapphire when it is apparently quite highly rated. In some respects it seemed to be more polished than others.

I have been busy today so rooting may not take place until tomorrow now.

Cheer and thanks for the tips thus far...

 

[glitch32]

Ya I'm using the stock kernel with setCPU to control it. I will at some point try new one. Mine is running at 800Mhz.

 

[muab]

Ya I'm using the stock kernel with setCPU to control it. I will at some point try new one. Mine is running at 800Mhz.

What ROM are you using?

It seems like LFY or Sapphire or Lithium might all work. I REALLY don't want a bunch of bugs. I detest having to fix my phone all day.

Really just need the wifi tether and battery life an I can live with everything else stock I think.

Thanks

 

[glitch32]

I'm using lithium mod. Its been very reliable and I haven't had any issues with it. I'm using the cyan themed one.

 

[muab]

okay I actually rooted and ran SetCPU and autodetect.
SetCPU showed 600 max 250 min.

Is that normal? It seems low from what I have heard.


Thanks

 

[muab]

I'm using lithium mod. Its been very reliable and I haven't had any issues with it. I'm using the cyan themed one.

But I believe you said earlier that Lithium brought you worse battery life than stock?
I was interested to see that some ROMS definitely improve battery life.

I want that quite a lot.

Any other suggestions on that front?

Thanks a million!

Cheers

 

[Dave17]

okay I actually rooted and ran SetCPU and autodetect.
SetCPU showed 600 max 250 min.

Is that normal? It seems low from what I have heard.


Thanks

I'm running Bugless Beast V0.4 at 800 Mhz out of the box with no issues whatsoever. I have found this ROM to be incredibly stable. (Thanks again to Pete and all that have contributed to this terrific ROM.) This ROM also has quite a bit done to it to increase battery life.

Not long ago, I was where you are now. Take your time, make incremental changes, and perform regular nandroid backups and you should be just fine. I have yet to come across a problem that couldn't be fixed by flashing a stable backup.

 

[bluegrizzlies1]

not to steal this thread but does verizon know if you are wifi tethering on a rooted droid?

 

[glitch32]

But I believe you said earlier that Lithium brought you worse battery life than stock?
I was interested to see that some ROMS definitely improve battery life.

I want that quite a lot.

Any other suggestions on that front?

Thanks a million!

Cheers

No, Lithium Mod has been great with it's stock kenrel. One that I tried, sapphire, was really bad on my battery. That could have just been the kernel that came with it though. As I understand it, you can get better battery life from changing the kernels too. I'm still just trying different ROMs so I haven't tried other kernels yet.
As far as improving battery life on the phone, once you start overclocking, the battery life goes down, but I've set up profiles on setCPU that keep it underclocked while the screen is off, and it will also underclock it when the battery reaches 50%. This seems to help out quite a bit.

 

[muab]

not to steal this thread but does verizon know if you are wifi tethering on a rooted droid?

As I understand it, they do not know at all. But I have heard it theorized that if you are cranking tons of bandwidth through your tether that you might get on their radar and they could try to force you to pay additional fees.
I haven't actually heard that anyone has experienced it but it wouldn't surprise me if it did happen from time to time.

 

[muab]

I'm running Bugless Beast V0.4 at 800 Mhz out of the box with no issues whatsoever. I have found this ROM to be incredibly stable. (Thanks again to Pete and all that have contributed to this terrific ROM.) This ROM also has quite a bit done to it to increase battery life.

Not long ago, I was where you are now. Take your time, make incremental changes, and perform regular nandroid backups and you should be just fine. I have yet to come across a problem that couldn't be fixed by flashing a stable backup.

After my research late into the night I was actually leaning toward this ROM and was about to try it out when I decided that I should probably wait until I was more awake.



Thanks for the input.

 

[twistedlim]

FRG22 DEOXED and one of Chevy's medium. P3, or Slayhers lv kernels. I have tried other roms but they have had a bug or two on my phone. The FRG22 has been perfect and I have gotten the best speed and battery life from the Slayher LV kernels.
Peter Alfonso

Froyo Kernels by slayher - CyanogenMod Forum

If you like the roms and/or kernels be sure to donate if you can to show your appreciation.

 

[muab]

FRG22 DEOXED and one of Chevy's medium. P3, or Slayhers lv kernels. I have tried other roms but they have had a bug or two on my phone. The FRG22 has been perfect and I have gotten the best speed and battery life from the Slayher LV kernels.
Peter Alfonso

Froyo Kernels by slayher - CyanogenMod Forum

If you like the roms and/or kernels be sure to donate if you can to show your appreciation.

Have you tried UD 7 or Chevy's newest ROM?

Thank you very much for the input.


Right now I am fighting with Clockwork Recovery. It is not staying flashed and it keeps reverting back to the regular Android recovery. Pissing me off.

 

[Dave17]

Right now I am fighting with Clockwork Recovery. It is not staying flashed and it keeps reverting back to the regular Android recovery. Pissing me off.

Are you using ROM Manager? I haven't had this problem, but I've read that flashing SPRecovery and then back to Clockwork can solve these kinds of problems. Good luck!