Root S Off. I'm bored!

[InfernalByte]

I've decided to give S off a go as I've been a little bored all day, I've spent many hours reading about it and even longer getting around the unfamiliar Windows Java, SDK and the rest. I think I'm now ready to FASTBOOT, the tutorial I'm using tell me there's a million tutorials for it. If there is, someone has spent all weekend deleting then because I can't find any.

Can anybody link me to a comprehensive S off or even FASTBOOT tutorial?

 

[SUroot]

For s off, you just download, burn to cd, boot from cd and follow steps.

What do you mean about a tutorial for fastboot?

 

[InfernalByte]

I'm using this tutorial, to flash the clockwork mod recovery image.

Why do I get the feeling I'm going to be very embarrassed in a minute? lol

 

[SUroot]

Did you not root with unrevoked? If so you already have recovery.

Alpharev replaces hboot

 

[InfernalByte]

I do already have recovery, I merely thought that this file was different. It's clear I need to do more reading.

 

[Rastaman-FB]

basically on some occassion s-off can break recovery
if in that instance it does then its simple to fix
you get a recovery of choice and do
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img

job done

you shouldnt have to though

 

[LfcFan1977]

I know how daunting it all sounds but I actually found S-off to be the easier than rooting.

I assume you have read these tutorials --> here

I also assume you are on windows.

Because my winXP laptop has a broken cd\dvd drive, I used the third option but instead of "VMware" (which I couldn't find a easy download for), I used "VMware player" from filehippo --> here.
It was very slighty different to the voyager tutorial but with the player version, there is no need to unplug and plug usb during the process, it does if for you.
After downloading vmware player and the alpharev iso, I think it took me about 10 minutes to s-off.

Happy modding your desi

 

[mbatson89]

I've been looking around for a while now and was just wondering what the benefits of being S-Off are i know what it 'is' but what does it allow you to do? Always on the look out for a new challenge to improve my Desire

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

[SUroot]

If you don't know what it does, then you probably don't need it.

But the main thing is that you can delete system/apps whilst android is running with certain apps. Of course this can be dangerous if you remove the wrong things.

You can also set up custom partition layouts so you can resize the /system and /cache partitions, giving /data a bigger space (more apps)

/system is 250MB, but for cyanogen or any other vanilla rom, you can get away with half that space.

When I used to have custom layouts, I have 300MB /data partition - over double what it comes with as standard.

 

[mbatson89]

cheers dan,

I guess the only reason i'd ever use S-Off in that case is to make way for more apps but i'm not exactly short of room atm so it's not really worth my while.

I'll wait till there's an easy guide as to what can be changed safely before i play about with anything then

Btw, fancy sharing your secrets as to how you're hitting 2.5k+ on quadrant? i'm running DefroST 6.1 too but only getting around 1700

 

[SUroot]

Overclock + data2sd.

Its not real, but I/O speed is massively increased as its on SD rather than NAND

 

[Rastaman-FB]

alpharev s-off also gives you extended fastboot commands so things like flashing recovery is really simple and flashing radio is much safer (uses fastboot rather than a signed zip

 

[InfernalByte]

If you don't know what it does, then you probably don't need it.

But the main thing is that you can delete system/apps whilst android is running with certain apps. Of course this can be dangerous if you remove the wrong things.

You can also set up custom partition layouts so you can resize the /system and /cache partitions, giving /data a bigger space (more apps)

/system is 250MB, but for cyanogen or any other vanilla rom, you can get away with half that space.

When I used to have custom layouts, I have 300MB /data partition - over double what it comes with as standard.

That's exactly what I intend to do. I'm running darktremor as my a2sd and I'm getting low mem warning even though I'm nowhere near full. I've tried DeFrost but I prefer Cyanogen, I will be nicking the FM Radio from the DeFrost rom though, as soon as I work out what files to take with it. The other thing that's happening with DeFrost is that the memory meters on Titanium Pro have all gone!

I seem to remember when I rooted that I needed sdk, Java and all sorts, but after your post last night Dan I googled ".iso s off" and a whole new epoch of reading appeared before me. Luckily an inch and a half of snow means that work is unthinkable so I have plenty of time on my hands.

Thanks everyone.................I may be gone for some time!

 

[SUroot]

alpharev s-off also gives you extended fastboot commands so things like flashing recovery is really simple and flashing radio is much safer (uses fastboot rather than a signed zip

Oh yeah and that. Good point. removes an additional layer of software I.E, Custom recovery.

 

[SUroot]

That's exactly what I intend to do. I'm running darktremor as my a2sd and I'm getting low mem warning even though I'm nowhere near full. I've tried DeFrost but I prefer Cyanogen, I will be nicking the FM Radio from the DeFrost rom though, as soon as I work out what files to take with it. The other thing that's happening with DeFrost is that the memory meters on Titanium Pro have all gone!

I seem to remember when I rooted that I needed sdk, Java and all sorts, but after your post last night Dan I googled ".iso s off" and a whole new epoch of reading appeared before me. Luckily an inch and a half of snow means that work is unthinkable so I have plenty of time on my hands.

Thanks everyone.................I may be gone for some time!

Mine are still there.

yeah when I was on a2sd+, I found I needed to relayout my partitions too. Well not so much needed, but had to do it for the kick

 

[Rastaman-FB]

you didnt need sdk to root
you will need sdk to perform tasks on the device like fastboot/adb but to actually root you need nothing but drivers and unrevoked

to s-off you dont even need drivers, just bbot to cd and plug in device while booted into the rom when prompted

 

[snakeeyes21]

For most things to do with fastboot I would suggest newbies use fastboot commander

[TOOL][All devices & OS] Fastboot Commander(magic version)[v.1.0][UPD 31 OCT 2010] - xda-developers

Its very good and no chance of typing the wrong thing and doing some damage.

or another one is android flasher

[UTILITY] 1-click Android Flasher(Recovery, splash1, Radio, HBOOT)[V1.5.5](UPD!) - xda-developers

The latter doesnt do as much as the first

 

[SUroot]

I've used the second and it worked very well. I used it for splash as even though I was doing the manual commands and conversion correct, it just wasn't working.

Worked really well. Haven't tried it for Radio though.

 

[InfernalByte]

Houston we have S off! I LOVE YOU ALL!!!!!

Ooooooo did I just say that?

 

[SUroot]

I'm bored now, No more mods to do

 

[InfernalByte]

I'm bored now, No more mods to do

I'm getting to know the feeling!

I'm back on Cyanogen and still have the low mem warning even though I no where near the limit! I'm not rushing into moving internal partitions until I'm comfortable and done a lot more reading. Any ideas on what I can do about it?

 

[InfernalByte]

Sod it! I'll flash a clean rom.

 

[Rastaman-FB]

I'm bored now, No more mods to do

dualboot ubuntu

 

[SUroot]

I'm getting to know the feeling!

I'm back on Cyanogen and still have the low mem warning even though I no where near the limit! I'm not rushing into moving internal partitions until I'm comfortable and done a lot more reading. Any ideas on what I can do about it?

Next step after apps2sd+ is partition or data2sd.

Partition has been around longer. Pretty stable

 

[SUroot]

dualboot ubuntu

Possibly. Wanted to dual boot roms but doesn't support froyo yet

Got a chunk of nand spare now too. Sd is small so ubuntu is a no go for now