Help Rooting and Tethering using 4G LTE?

[willdogs]

Hi All

I am currently using my Rooted Droid Eris and using the Wireless Tether App every now and then when needed.

I am curious to know that if and when the Thunderbolt and other 4G devices come out, if Verizon will be able to see the fact that you are "Unofficially" wireless tethering your 4G plan with this new technology?

Or will it be like the current 3G where they really cannot tell that you are tethered?

Can anyone advise?

 

[TxGoat]

I've heard that it's going to be possible via rooting, but we're going to have to wait until we get some units in our hands.

 

[jayishere]

They haven't announced whether or not you'll have to pay for tethering (I assume so) or not yet.

 

[TxGoat]

They haven't announced whether or not you'll have to pay for tethering (I assume so) or not yet.

Considering they charge for tethering with other phones, I can't imagine them not charging to tether 4G, especially since the amount of bandwidth available on 4G. People are more likely to use it for large data transfers.

 

[DroidL]

I had an advanced CS Rep from VZW on the phone with me the other day about something different then the T-Bolt. I tried turning the conversation to questions on the thunderbolt and she surprised me with how much she knew about what was going on.

She told me that she had no idea what the exact date would be only that it would be soon and sometime in March.

She also told and this was without my asking that the wifi hotspot feature will be free, until through the end of may or June depending on when they got it out and than it would go back to standard $20 a month for 2 gigs.


She sounded quite up on everything going on and did not seem to make stuff up for what she did not have answers to.

 

[jayishere]

If tethering wasn't free, I'd just root it and get it for free, lol

 

[jasoraso]

Considering they charge for tethering with other phones, I can't imagine them not charging to tether 4G, especially since the amount of bandwidth available on 4G. People are more likely to use it for large data transfers.

I think this is why Verizon seems to be leaning towards charging for large data transfers. They've already begun to indicate that they will throttle large data users.

I think Verizon is going to move to a pricing model where you pay based on quantity of data, not speed of data (unlike AT&T). I can't remember where, but I think it was CES where Verizon made some big announcements regarding 4g/LTE that they answered a question from the audience regarding pricing for 4g; and the lady said that they weren't making a change right now; but that they were going to move towards a model of charging for quantity, not speed.

So, in that case I think Verizon is thinking in a bigger picture - it doesn't matter how you are using the data (tethering, smartphone, laptop, or even phone calls); but how MUCH data you are using.

That is why I wouldn't be surprised to see Verizon just include tethering in the package. And there have been some hints that there might be some "surprise features" when the thunderbolt finally drops ...

 

[skinien]

I think this is why Verizon seems to be leaning towards charging for large data transfers. They've already begun to indicate that they will throttle large data users.

I think Verizon is going to move to a pricing model where you pay based on quantity of data, not speed of data (unlike AT&T). I can't remember where, but I think it was CES where Verizon made some big announcements regarding 4g/LTE that they answered a question from the audience regarding pricing for 4g; and the lady said that they weren't making a change right now; but that they were going to move towards a model of charging for quantity, not speed.

So, in that case I think Verizon is thinking in a bigger picture - it doesn't matter how you are using the data (tethering, smartphone, laptop, or even phone calls); but how MUCH data you are using.

That is why I wouldn't be surprised to see Verizon just include tethering in the package. And there have been some hints that there might be some "surprise features" when the thunderbolt finally drops ...

This is why I want to jump over to Verizon and get grandfathered into unlimited 4G data.

 

[Mallissa]

This is why I want to jump over to Verizon and get grandfathered into unlimited 4G data.

Exactly. The husband and I have had verizon forever, so we are def good on the GF'ing over.

 

[jayishere]

you're not absolutely grandfathered. They can decide to charge everyone, it'd just let you break your contract early.

 

[Mallissa]

you're not absolutely grandfathered. They can decide to charge everyone, it'd just let you break your contract early.

Oops, what I meant was that we are good IF they GF us over, not we are good because they WILL. My bad on not being clear what I meant.

 

[project.in.process]

i'm definitely rooting for tethering. Google put it in the OS, screw the carrier for blocking it.

 

[FrankXS]

i'm definitely rooting for tethering. Google put it in the OS, screw the carrier for blocking it.

Well then, it sounds like the "quantity" of data idea would stop folks like you. So, you might get your wish... tethering might be free. Just not the data

-Frank

 

[jayishere]

Lol, well either way. I'll pay for unlimited until either I'm grandfathered into it, or they do away with it, and then I'll stop tethering for free

 

[cbanning]

am wondering/hoping the **778 trick works on the TB. Planning on selling my DX to get one on Thursday/Friday!

 

[digdug1]

What i'd like to know is if the wireless tether app will work on the thunderbolt like it does on the droid x and droid 2. Those phones are capable connecting directly to the ps3 using wireless tether.

 

[frodub]

i also wonder if PDAnet will be able to be used. I use it on my OG droid and can connect via bluetooth or usb to use my phone without tethering charges

 

[RiverOfIce]

I really hope you can use tethering options. But understand that lte can and will be able to block specific apps, websites, and even data flows. The network will just not let the tethering app connect with the network.

If verizon chooses and even if you root, you will not be able to tether with out a tethering plan. LTE only. 3g will work normally.

 

[project.in.process]

I really hope you can use tethering options. But understand that lte can and will be able to block specific apps, websites, and even data flows. The network will just not let the tethering app connect with the network.

If verizon chooses and even if you root, you will not be able to tether with out a tethering plan. LTE only. 3g will work normally.

is this function not built in to the 3g network for carriers to allow them to block unauthorized use?---or are they looking the other way at this point

 

[RiverOfIce]

is this function not built in to the 3g network for carriers to allow them to block unauthorized use?---or are they looking the other way at this point

No, it is not available with 3g. It is available with lte.

When you install an app, the lte sim can check the app against a list of apps on the server.

Here is some reading materials.

Powered by Google Docs

http://androidforums.com/sprint/272829-lte-vs-wimax-charges-control-data.html

Trying to keep the links to free sites.

 

[Mitchell4500]

No, it is not available with 3g. It is available with lte.

When you install an app, the lte sim can check the app against a list of apps on the server.

Here is some reading materials.

Powered by Google Docs

http://androidforums.com/sprint/272829-lte-vs-wimax-charges-control-data.html

Trying to keep the links to free sites.

If verizon ever dose that they will loose me as a customer and im sure large amounts of others.

 

[jayishere]

If verizon ever dose that they will loose me as a customer and im sure large amounts of others.

where are you going to go? lol

 

[willdogs]

where are you going to go? lol

Everybody always says that.

What he doesn't realize is that if/when verizon starts doing this all the other carriers will as well.

 

[RiverOfIce]

Everybody always says that.

What he doesn't realize is that if/when verizon starts doing this all the other carriers will as well.

With wimax, you cant do any of that. Sprint, as long as they are wimax, will be an option.