Root [CDMA] unrEVOked Rooting Announced?

[ndh777]

Has unrEVOked mentioned as to whether they were going to have rooting for the Evo 3D yet or not?

 

[Guitardoc64]

Nothing yet. xda has a bunch of devs on it.

 

[DonB]

I am going to assume nothing will happen unless they unlock the bootloader

Nothing yet. xda has a bunch of devs on it.

 

[SaleenFiend]

I am going to assume nothing will happen unless they unlock the bootloader

1. HTC will unlock the bootloader in due time
2. Devs will crack the bootloader in due time

Who comes first? I'll bank on the Devs.

 

[Lozer_Kid]

I hope they do it before the end of my 30 day trial!

 

[lafester]

I hope they do it before the end of my 30 day trial!

shadowmite said they are working on it but nothing so far.

 

[NeoteriX]

As I understand it, "rooting" and the "bootloader" are unrelated concepts.

You can root even with a lock bootloader; what a locked bootloader prevents is the use of a custom or different ROM on the device (like CyanogenMod7 for example).

However, you can have root access (and consequently Superuser Access) on stock Sense ROM devices. So no, they have nothing to do with each other.

 

[novox77]

As I understand it, "rooting" and the "bootloader" are unrelated concepts.

You can root even with a lock bootloader; what a locked bootloader prevents is the use of a custom or different ROM on the device (like CyanogenMod7 for example).

However, you can have root access (and consequently Superuser Access) on stock Sense ROM devices. So no, they have nothing to do with each other.

I find they overlap somewhat. Yes, they are two completely different concepts, but the end result is that without both, you don't have access to certain parts of your phone, like /system. You need both to have write access to /system, which is where the OS resides, along with crapware, boot animation, superuser, etc.

So if you want to remove crapware, having root won't be enough. That's why when we talk about rooting an Android phone, the word encompasses unlocking the bootloader as well. You may also hear "half root" vs "full root," where full root includes the bootloader unlock.

Some half-root exploits temporarily unlocks the bootloader (or more appropriately, disables NAND protection), so during the exploit, things can be written to system. Might not be possible on E3D due to the individually signed partitions.

Anyhow, the two concepts are plenty intertwined when it comes to getting more freedom out of your phone.

 

[DonB]

^^^^ Ditto

I find they overlap somewhat. Yes, they are two completely different concepts, but the end result is that without both, you don't have access to certain parts of your phone, like /system. You need both to have write access to /system, which is where the OS resides, along with crapware, boot animation, superuser, etc.

So if you want to remove crapware, having root won't be enough. That's why when we talk about rooting an Android phone, the word encompasses unlocking the bootloader as well. You may also hear "half root" vs "full root," where full root includes the bootloader unlock.

Some half-root exploits temporarily unlocks the bootloader (or more appropriately, disables NAND protection), so during the exploit, things can be written to system. Might not be possible on E3D due to the individually signed partitions.

Anyhow, the two concepts are plenty intertwined when it comes to getting more freedom out of your phone.

 

[JUSTQUAN2]

I hope they do it before the end of my 30 day trial!

I concur with you on this. I'm not loving my 3d right now lol.

 

[CarrieK]

Would like to have the option to root in case I decide I want to but either way, right now I looooove this phone!

 

[Spartanzz]

Would like to have the option to root in case I decide I want to but either way, right now I looooove this phone!

i agree with ya there i lovr this phone even without it being rooted

 

[SDRebel]

I hope they do it before the end of my 30 day trial!

ditto

 

[SDRebel]

Would like to have the option to root in case I decide I want to but either way, right now I looooove this phone!

but we want wifi tether

 

[Lozer_Kid]

but we want wifi tether

You can tether without your phone being rooted or paying Sprint a monthly fee for that.

 

[Thefoodman52]

You can tether without your phone being rooted or paying Sprint a monthly fee for that.

Not wirelessly (Bluetooth doesn't count, because it's slow as molasses).

 

[CarrieK]

but we want wifi tether

I would like that too. We still have our rooted EVO 4G and Optimus S so I'm not in the bind some of you are. In the meantime, EasyTether works well if I have to connect and neither of our other devices is available. Still not sure I will root right away even if an exploit becomes available but I would like the option. I have to say that out of the box this is the best phone I've ever had. Our other phones are very good but I only reached this level of satisfaction after rooting them.

 

[wake69]

looks like team win found a hole for root. stay tuned

 

[NeoteriX]

I find they overlap somewhat. ....

Anyhow, the two concepts are plenty intertwined when it comes to getting more freedom out of your phone.

^^^^ Ditto

Fair points -- thanks for the insight!

 

[ocnbrze]

looks like team win found a hole for root. stay tuned

yep,
Team Win Finds Exploit for EVO 3D, Should Be Bringing Root Any Day Now

 

[wake69]

what will happen next, after root is made and phones start to get rooted, unrevoked may make a 1-2 click root method from the steps. This is what simpleroot and unrevoked did with the evo in the early days. i remember when i got my first evo i had to root manually, then got it replaced and used simple root and man what a time saver so we will see what happens

 

[novox77]

yep,
Team Win Finds Exploit for EVO 3D, Should Be Bringing Root Any Day Now

This is being discussed in the sticky thread:
http://androidforums.com/evo-3d-all-things-root/366410-rooting-evo-3d.html

unrevoked will likely borrow this exploit, or they might find their own. they aren't very public about what they do, and the documentation on their site is weak.

 

[novox77]

what will happen next, after root is made and phones start to get rooted, unrevoked may make a 1-2 click root method from the steps. This is what simpleroot and unrevoked did with the evo in the early days. i remember when i got my first evo i had to root manually, then got it replaced and used simple root and man what a time saver so we will see what happens

Simpleroot was a windows app that encapsulated the original full root method developed by toastcfh. Back then, unrevoked (version 3) came up with their OWN root exploit, but it never unlocked the bootloader.

Simpleroot was the way to go (or doing the steps manually). unrevoked was garbage back then. Their half root caused a ton of confusion and problems, especially when Froyo came out and people wanted to flash the rooted OTA.

Ugh, those were dark times. And to add to the confusion, when they finally had a full root, which was basically their half root and something called unrevoked4ever, they called the whole thing unrevoked 3.2. Which caused a lot of confusion in the forums because the older half root was referred to as unrevoked3, so it could technically mean both 3 or 3.2. I was forever turned off by unrevoked and will likely never use their exploit unless as a last resort.

 

[DonB]

C&P

Root aquired!! Now it is just a waiting game to get a method and start having fun with this beast.

Root Acquired: http://twitter.com/#!/agrabren

 

[novox77]

C&P

Root aquired!! Now it is just a waiting game to get a method and start having fun with this beast.

Root Acquired: http://twitter.com/#!/agrabren

sticky thread updated. going to close this thread out.