Accessories Seidio 1600mAh extended life battery

[NineToTheSky]

I've just received the Seidio 1600mAh battery, and I'm interested to see how it performs, compared to the HTC original.

The instructions say 'please allow 8 hours for initial charge'; it's just charged fully after 3 hours 45 minutes. It also says 'performance will increase after 5-6 full charges.' I'm looking forward to my performance increase.

 

[Smokinjoe18]

Let us know how you get on, very interested myself. Where did you get it from a link would be useful thanks..

 

[tuatha]

Apparently Seidio batteries operate at about 80-85% of stated capacity... I guess this is within industry standards.

Unfortunately, the stock HTC batteries seem to operate at over 95% of stated capacity, so these Seidio batteries actually have less capacity as standard than the battery you just replaced.

Verified by independent testing:

BatteryBoss Calls Out False Capacity Claims!


Stock HTC clocked in at 1357mAh
Seidio 1600mAh was rated at 1314mAh (82% of stated capacity)

edit: This forum should have a sticky linking to that page.

 

[NineToTheSky]

Let us know how you get on, very interested myself. Where did you get it from a link would be useful thanks..

Sorry, I meant to say. It was from Mobile Fun.

tuatha: I wanted to get a second battery anyway, so I thought I'd try this one.

ETA: whatever results I get will obviously just be my non-expert opinion.

 

[tuatha]

Fair enough, just that the stock batteries are cheaper and are proven to have higher capacities... I already cancelled my order for the Seidio.

 

[HTC_Desire]

The only thing that puts me off the spare battery is the way you have pull the cover off the back of the desire - Seems somewhat fraught with danger every time I do it - Keep thinking it will just break in half.

In the end i plumped for the Nexus Power Portable Pro from Mobile Fun for 19.99. Downside is that it is not as neat as just popping in another battery, but upsides are that it won't destroy the back of the phone doing it, it really is a nice small form factor, and i'm hoping I'll get two phone charges out of it. Seems to work ok at the moment, but only had it a day so far. Useful to power my son's PSP and DS and wife's ipod as well though, so seems quite versatile.

Regards
Ken..............

 

[NineToTheSky]

Fair enough, just that the stock batteries are cheaper and are proven to have higher capacities... I already cancelled my order for the Seidio.

I hadn't read that report, but I did google the battery, and there are many (inexpert) results where people say they got more out of it than the standard battery; but not, I admit, from specifically Desire owners. I don't know where HTC source their's from, but if they are unusual in working at a higher capacity, that might explain it.

 

[tuatha]

Well if you email Seidio they'll probably tell you themselves that their batteries operate at 80-85% (Mugens have already admitted this).

Whichever way you want to look at it, that puts it at less than the capacity of the HTC batteries (which I agree appear to be unusually high quality).

Any anecdotal reports of these seidio batteries lasting longer than the HTC ones at the same usage rates are wrong. You cannae break the laws of physics.

 

[NineToTheSky]

Well if you email Seidio they'll probably tell you themselves that their batteries operate at 80-85% (Mugens have already admitted this).

Then I don't see the point in making or selling these. Unless, of course, it's just a straightforward con. In which case, I have been suckered.

 

[tuatha]

You and many others, I reckon.

You see the problem is, 80-85% is actually not the worst rating. Some third party batteries could be as low as 60%. The proprietary batteries are the exception here...

I've emailed them anyway and asked if they can give me an idea of what the actual operating capacity of their batteries is. Hopefully we'll get some confirmation.

 

[lekky]

The only thing that puts me off the spare battery is the way you have pull the cover off the back of the desire - Seems somewhat fraught with danger every time I do it - Keep thinking it will just break in half.

In the end i plumped for the Nexus Power Portable Pro from Mobile Fun for 19.99. Downside is that it is not as neat as just popping in another battery, but upsides are that it won't destroy the back of the phone doing it, it really is a nice small form factor, and i'm hoping I'll get two phone charges out of it. Seems to work ok at the moment, but only had it a day so far. Useful to power my son's PSP and DS and wife's ipod as well though, so seems quite versatile.

Regards
Ken..............

Let us know how you get on with this, i may end up getting one.

 

[NineToTheSky]

I've just phoned Mobile Fun, who I've always found to be decent and honest, and they say they haven't heard of this, but didn't deny that it is possible. I have seen that there is someone called Jazz from Mobile Fun who frequents this board, and the guy on the phone said that he'd draw Jazz's attention to this thread next time he sees him. I'd be interested in what he might have to say.

(They did emphasize that they have a no questions asked 30 day return guarantee, which is one reason I buy from them.)

 

[tuatha]

Cool. I've mailed HTC as well to get some official confirmation of the operating capacity of their batteries.

I don't know if either company will write back though...

 

[Jazz Singh]

Whilst sacrificing a goat, you say my name 3 times in the mirror - I will appear!

I've got a contact at Seidio - I'll drop a line and report back.

 

[NineToTheSky]

Whilst sacrificing a goat, you say my name 3 times in the mirror - I will appear!

I've got a contact at Seidio - I'll drop a line and report back.

Many thanks, Jazz.

That goat did make a bit of a mess. Can I use a cuddly toy next time?

 

[Jazz Singh]

lol - yes.

 

[NineToTheSky]

For those that are interested, I've recorded my battery level, using an app called Battery Snap.
The use has been what I'd say is light/average - and obviously none when I was asleep overnight.

I fully charged the Seidio for the first time yesterday.

23 April
15.45 - fully charged
17.15 - 95%
19.15 - 90%

24 April
12.00 (mid day) - 75%
15.00 - 65% (includes 1 hour music listening)

I'll keep updating.

 

[NineToTheSky]

I'm starting to be impressed. It's now 24 hours since I started using this battery, and it's now

24 April
15.45 - 65%

 

[tuatha]

Cheers for the updates.

During the night my phone uses about 4% of the battery on standby, deduct that from your total and you've got about 31% from waking hours, so you're using maybe 2% an hour.

With medium to heavy use and wi-fi on most of the time, my stock battery drops at an average of about 4.5% an hour.

So if you're a light to medium user like you say, I'd say that's just about right (and the bump in usage from listening to music is about what I'd expect from my phone too).


Can you tell us what you've got running? Is wi-fi/3G on? Brightness level? Active wallpaper?


For my 4.5% I've got active wallpaper, brightness at 15%, wi-fi on about 60% of the time.

 

[NineToTheSky]

I've changed to BatteryTime Lite, as it measures in single units.

18.45 - 57%

I'm currently disabling wifi, mobile and gps until I want to use them. Screen brightness is on auto.

I'm going to do this twice more, once with the Seidio and wifi, mobile and gps permanently on, and once with them switched off with HTC battery.

There are many threads in several forums about the Desire's battery life - many of them not very happy. I think it must be recognised that if you have a multi-faceted device with most of options on, your battery life will not be great. At the moment battery development has lagged behind the demands of the devices they are powering.

If this is born in mind, and some of power saving measures (like the ones I'm using above) are implented, two days usage is not unrealistic and is reasonable.

 

[Kendoji]

Thanks for the updates - I think a lot of us are interested in this.

 

[NineToTheSky]

21.45 - 50%

 

[NineToTheSky]

25 April
9:00 - 29%

 

[Celox]

I fail to see how these % are relevant, or need to be updated so many times. It would make sense just to post how long it lasted till the next time you have to plug it in no?
Plus if you are going to do the same 'test' with the standard battery you won't get a correct result as you'll not use the phone exactly the same, so you could end up with less or more usage and a respectively better or worse battery analysis.

It would be kinda the same if I said now that my standard battery has 68% left after 1d 1h 44m 50s. (which is more than your seido had after this time). But it wouldn't be relevant at all cause we obviously did not have an equal use of your phones over this time.

I don't mean to come of as rude, I just don't see the point of posting your battery % every hour or so.

That being said:

Standard battery 1400 (100% capacity) vs Seido battery 1600 (100% capacity)
The seido will last 14.28% longer.
This is if you consider both batteries to run at 100% capacity of their claimed Mah (1400 and 1600)
That being said this isn't realistic.

Standard battery 1330 (95% capacity) vs Seido battery 1440 (90% capacity)
Seido will last 8% longer

Standard battery 1330 (95% capacity) vs Seido battery 1360 (85% capacity)
Seido will last 2% longer

Standard battery 1330 (95% capacity) vs Seido battery 1280 (80% capacity)
Standard battery will run 3% longer

Standard battery 1260 (90% capacity) vs Seido battery 1280 (80% capacity)
Seido will last 1% longer

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It's already been reported in this thread the htc batteries are of great quality and run at 90-95%

We are unsure of the Seido batteries but realistically they will be around 80% (and thats a very generous number considering other manufacturers go as low as 60%)
If you then look at the calculations above you'll see that the difference is marginal.

So again, I fail to see the relevance of these updates as you won't use both standard battery and seido battery the same way.
A relevant test would be installing a flashlight app (that turns your screen white on the highest brightness setting) and (after killing all other apps and turning off wireless, 3g, bleutooth and go into airplane mode) then timing how long each battery takes until it is dead.

 

[NineToTheSky]

I am sorry. As it's pointless, and I can see that it probably is, I'll stop updating this.