No 2.1 update till at least March

mbell75 · Feb 5, 2010

momoceio said:
Ok, then wait for the update. You're saying no update until March...HTC/Sprint said 1H of 2010. So, what's the point of this thread?

The point of it is there have been tons of threads with people claiming to have talked to Sprint employees who told them its coming this month. Early feb, mid feb, feb 22nd....Was posting this to shed some light given by a Sprint rep, not what some kid on the internet is making up. If you see no point to this thread, why click on it genius? :rolleyes:

momoceio · Feb 5, 2010

There is NO point to this thread...so why create it? No one besides you cares anymore about supposed release dates. Your info sheds no light on the situation as it's not from an official source. If you can get a signed letter from the CEO of Sprint of the release date...then you have something to post. Until then...

mbell75 · Feb 5, 2010

momoceio said:
There is NO point to this thread...so why create it? No one besides you cares anymore about supposed release dates. Your info sheds no light on the situation as it's not from an official source. If you can get a signed letter from the CEO of Sprint of the release date...then you have something to post. Until then...

Ummm, if you were on the Sprint forum, you would know that Ken is very much an official source. He is given permission by SPRINT to post there. You are wrong as usual.

momoceio · Feb 5, 2010

Like I said...an Official source. I want to see an official announcement.

DanielWalker · Feb 5, 2010

can't we all just get along!?

all I know is the next new thread I see about the update better be the one that says something like this...

"2.1 UPDATE AVAILABLE NOW!"

Thank you that is all. lol

mbell75 · Feb 5, 2010

Ok, Ken (Sprint rep) has updated his original post on the Sprint forum. He says...

"over the next few weeks and month(s) as the testing progresses, I may be able to revisit this thread and refine the 1H2010 statement giving you a better idea on expected availability."

If they will still be testing for months, we arent seeing this update till the last minute. June if we are lucky :rolleyes:

cooolone2 · Feb 5, 2010

Omg... bell. You just don't get it? You could have updated any one of the existing where's my update threads... why click on it? Well to be honest, to see what new and origina lunacy someone is willing to post. Who cares who is verifiable as a "knowledgable" source, because anyone can be anybody on these things. I'm Bill Gates by the way... ;-)

On the battery life thing (off topic), I'm running stock, no rooting, etc., and I get easy 12 hours with heavy web, some game and some text messaging use. Just follow all the provided info regarding this issue in the forums. I'm feeling left out lately though, lol, and just might root it soon... Haha...

Regards!

:cool:

NewShockerGuy · Feb 5, 2010

momoceio said:
I really don't care when the update comes out right now, with Fresh 1.1 and the Gumbo kernel my phone is flying.

Truth!

x2!

-Nigel

redandblack1287 · Feb 5, 2010

Sirchuk said:
Third, how the hell do you guys have such a long battery life? I get about 6 hours of use out of my Hero. Running Fresh 1.1 with Gumbo kernal. Sure, it's fast as hell, but my battery life is in the toilet. Maybe my battery is shot? I go to about half power in 3 hours with heavy use, no calls, just internet without games. Bluetooth and Wifi are both turned off with auto-lit screen.

This is pretty much exactly where I'm at.. I don't even have auto-lit screen on (which I'm pretty sure uses more battery than it saves) and I feel like I've been able to watch my battery drain since I got the kernel update. Obviously this is what you would expect from running a processor at a faster speed, but it seems like my phone eats up more battery while asleep than it did before the kernel, which makes no sense.

Anyway, you aren't alone =P

April_Fool_79 · Feb 6, 2010

I promise, as soon as we hear anything about the 2.1 update release, I will be on here posting about it. Promise.

DanielWalker · Feb 6, 2010

April_Fool_79 said:
I promise, as soon as we hear anything about the 2.1 update release, I will be on here posting about it. Promise.

LOL. like your sig it's cute.

mbell75 · Feb 6, 2010

redandblack1287 said:
This is pretty much exactly where I'm at.. I don't even have auto-lit screen on (which I'm pretty sure uses more battery than it saves) and I feel like I've been able to watch my battery drain since I got the kernel update. Obviously this is what you would expect from running a processor at a faster speed, but it seems like my phone eats up more battery while asleep than it did before the kernel, which makes no sense.

Anyway, you aren't alone =P

By rooting and flashing, you are taking a phone and running it a way that wasnt meant to be run. HTC designs their phones to be the most efficient in all aspects out of the box, tweaking that to make your apps open 1 second faster or your dialer work at the speed of light will effect everything else. Its like taking a Prius, supercharging it and then complaining your gas milage now sucks. Not meant for that.

redandblack1287 · Feb 6, 2010

mbell75 said:
HTC designs their phones to be the most efficient in all aspects out of the box,

At this point I decided there was absolutely no sense in replying to your comment

acp · Feb 6, 2010

who gave this thread 5 stars LOOOL

I opened it thinking there was actually something worth reading.

DFRESH · Feb 6, 2010

I'm waiting......so when it comes out, I will talk about it...for now, I'll just wait..

mbaseball3 · Feb 6, 2010

you guys are lame. bob from radio shack sent me an email that took me to a secured link were I got to flash android 3.0 . 2.1 was so yesterday

boy aren't I cool now!

momoceio · Feb 6, 2010

mbell75 said:
By rooting and flashing, you are taking a phone and running it a way that wasnt meant to be run. HTC designs their phones to be the most efficient in all aspects out of the box, tweaking that to make your apps open 1 second faster or your dialer work at the speed of light will effect everything else. Its like taking a Prius, supercharging it and then complaining your gas milage now sucks. Not meant for that.

What do you mean it's being run in a way it wasn't "meant" to be run. It's hardware...it just "runs". The flashing and rooting process allows us to do more than HTC or Sprint intended but that sure as hell doesn't mean it's making the phone any less efficient. If these phone are as efficient as they can possibly be out of the box, then why does my phone run twice as fast and have twice the battery life now that I'm rooted and running a custom kernel?

To use your analogy, it's like supercharging a Prius and getting twice the gas mileage.

mbell75 · Feb 6, 2010

momoceio said:
What do you mean it's being run in a way it wasn't "meant" to be run. It's hardware...it just "runs". The flashing and rooting process allows us to do more than HTC or Sprint intended but that sure as hell doesn't mean it's making the phone any less efficient. If these phone are as efficient as they can possibly be out of the box, then why does my phone run twice as fast and have twice the battery life now that I'm rooted and running a custom kernel?

To use your analogy, it's like supercharging a Prius and getting twice the gas mileage.

Look at the posts I replied to. They are saying their battery life has gotten WORSE.

momoceio · Feb 6, 2010

It's got nothing to do with the ROM or Kernel, rather the inability of people to research.

romeosidvicious · Feb 6, 2010

mbell75 said:
By rooting and flashing, you are taking a phone and running it a way that wasnt meant to be run. HTC designs their phones to be the most efficient in all aspects out of the box, tweaking that to make your apps open 1 second faster or your dialer work at the speed of light will effect everything else. Its like taking a Prius, supercharging it and then complaining your gas milage now sucks. Not meant for that.

I have to say you are wrong about this. Even Sense is not as optimized as it could be with only the tools in the Android SDK. Sense also does not implement widgets in exactly the manner as Android which causes problems. Hell the messaging app from HTC themselves caused 100% uptime and had to be patched. HTC doesn't optimize much of anything to begin with and their QC seems to be sort of shoddy with the messaging app and the N1 problems they've had to patch.

Tweaking kernel settings, that HTC left set to default and changing the governor on the processor isn't anything like you describe in your analogy. No-one is overclocking yet, which could cause problems, they are only telling their phone to run more efficiently. With the proper settings you can improve both battery life and performance and sometimes you can mess up your battery life or slow your phone down finding the sweet spot. But HTC did not ship these phones optimized in any manner. The claim you make about running not as intended is like telling me I am wrong to install Linux on my computer because it has a sticker saying certified for Windows 7.

salpiche · Feb 6, 2010

momoceio said:
i really don't care when the update comes out right now, with fresh 1.1 and the gumbo kernel my phone is flying.

ditto! :d

reidbo · Feb 7, 2010

I feel like I'm missing out on all sorts of apps with firmware 1.5.

MorpheusUK · Feb 7, 2010

Hi,
I'm quite interested in 2.1 as with everybody else, however I had a question.
I found Hero 2.1 signed from Androidcentral with regards to the search for Gumbo Kernil
Now the question, what are the dangers on upgrading to this 2.1 as to one that will hopefully be released in the near future, also is there a way to revert back to my Orange 1.5 Kernil?

mysticmead · Feb 7, 2010

MorpheusUK said:
Hi,
I'm quite interested in 2.1 as with everybody else, however I had a question.
I found Hero 2.1 signed from Androidcentral with regards to the search for Gumbo Kernil
Now the question, what are the dangers on upgrading to this 2.1 as to one that will hopefully be released in the near future, also is there a way to revert back to my Orange 1.5 Kernil?

no idea about that since Orange is for the GSM hero not the CDMA Hero.. so flashing a heroc rom would probably brick your GSM phone

hood420 · Feb 8, 2010

Sirchuk said:
Third, how the hell do you guys have such a long battery life? I get about 6 hours of use out of my Hero. Running Fresh 1.1 with Gumbo kernal. Sure, it's fast as hell, but my battery life is in the toilet. Maybe my battery is shot? I go to about half power in 3 hours with heavy use, no calls, just internet without games. Bluetooth and Wifi are both turned off with auto-lit screen.

I am also running FreshROM with the Gumbo kernel, and my battery life has improved greatly since. I think it is because of using the overclock widget, it has an option to limit processor speed when the screen is off, it really seems to save on battery.

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