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    I really want to buy the Nexus 4 for pure Android experience, but I also have to have a storage formatted in ntfs, N4 does not have sd slot, meaning that I have to get N4's internal storage formatted into ntfs or no N4 for me.

    Is that possible?
     

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    Umm no. Sorry. NTFS is for windows. Its probally possible to read NTFS (I've done this on my n7) but you can't format your phone in NTFS. It uses ext partitioning to format your internal memory.
     
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    What do you mean by "read NTFS"
     
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    I mean with a USB otg (normal female USB on one end and male micro USB on the other end) cable. But at this point I don't believed that is an option for the n4 ( the otg cable)
     
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    so basically for the N4, watching torrented blueray movies are off the chart since they are around 7GB (more than the 4GB limit on fat32) and file numbers capped at around 20000.
     
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    Is that why you have to have an NTFS partition?
     
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    You should be able to compress your movie to a usable size. I mean are you really gonna want to eat up your storage with a 7 gig file? To each his own but I can find better things to fill my storage with then a movie that's 7gigs.
     
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    Well I now torrent directly onto my phone these day, so I don't want to go through computer, an extra step with no benefit since I only watch movie while on public transport or waiting in line or something. When I am at home, I always have other things to do.

    I guess the N4 is not a phone for me, my current phone is also my portable movie player and I want my next phone to also be my portable BlueRay player that can download and storage BlueRay movies.
     
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    That's why most people want NTFS, an 64Gb SD card in NTFS can storage 9 BlueRay movies.

    With all the plethora of 1080p phones coming out in 2013, there are going to be an increase in the demand for NTFS partition in either on the phone or on SD card.
     
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    My guess is that they wouldn't switch to NTFS they would switch over to ext3 which has a max file size of 16g to 2t and a max volume size of 2t to 16t or ext4 which has a max file size of 16t and a max volume size of 1e
     
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    It sounds like you've settled on not owning a N4, but not because it doesn't support NTFS on internal storage. I don't know which type the N4 uses, but ext2/ext3 have a max file size of 16GB-2TB and ext4 has a max file size of 16TB. You just want to look for greater storage capacity.
     
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    first windows can not format something to ext2/ext3. Windows format fat32, exfat, and ntfs, but there maybe third party software that can format it into ext2/ext3 I am sure however, it is another unnecessary step.

    Second, we don't know that if N4 can be formatted into ext2/ext3. Unless there is evidence that N4 can be formatted into ext2/ext3, it is a big risk I am not willing to take, considering SGS3 can run exFat sd card right out of the box, exFat is just as good as ntfs compared to the limitations of fat32.

    Greater storage is always better due to the axiom of Non-Satiation, but I am satisfied with around 10GB usable storage, 7GB for one blueray (I watch and delete immediately), and 3GB for miscellaneous files.
     
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    Sorry, it seems there are potentially numerous file systems that could be used but I couldn't quickly confirm what N4 uses. A quick search says prior to android 2.2, YAFFS was used (max 512MB) and another article announced that EXT4 would be used for honeycomb (max 16TB). The obvious point is whether the large files are supported, and it seems unlikely that the N4 cannot support your blueray movies. Since you're not mounting the card in Windows, you don't need to format it for windows.

    Am I missing something?

    edit: you may still want to look at other phones anyways. I have the 16GB and after a backup (2.2GB) and a few moderately sized apps (1.67GB incl data and media content), I have 7.5GB free. It might be too tight for comfort
     
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    I said that I am don't watch movies at home (by myself that is, but sometime I still need to transfer the movie to a computer to watch the big screen when friends and family are over). I still need my PC to recognize my phone storage to transfer files such as photos and documents.

    That is why I prefer NTFS.
     
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    You don't need NTFS. Your Windows PC will hook up to a Nexus 4 via USB cable, recognize the phone's storage and transfer files just fine.

    BTW the N4 uses the ext4 filesystem.

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    You seem to be familiar with some technology terms, yet confused about their meaning.

    The Nexus 4 has no SD card. There is nothing to format. The phone arrives with the storage already formatted, and as Android is built on Linux, it is formatted with ext.

    The phone uses MTP or PTP to tranfer data to/from your PC (which is obviously a Windows machine). You do not mount the phone's media on the PC as phones with an SD card sometimes do.
     
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    This isn't meant to be sarcastic, but might sound it...

    If you ever buy a new computer, take your old one and install Ubuntu, Fedora, or any other popular flavor of Linux on it. It might open your eyes a bit. There is a whole big world out there of computing solutions that don't require paying license fees to Microsoft.
     
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    The fact that I am using Android and not WP means that I am supporting Linux.
     
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    It is your continued insistence in this thread that NTFS is needed and will be needed in order to solve current and future file requirements that prompted that comment.

    You don't have to "support" Linux, I suggested it because it sounds like you would learn a lot from using a Linux computer. That's all. And you might even like it.

    Like I said, it was meant as a real suggestion, not a knock.
     
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