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Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by gibsonhtp, Jun 2, 2010.

  1. gibsonhtp

    gibsonhtp Member
    Thread Starter

    At&t is really screwing people over, in my opinion, hehe.

    AT&T makes sweeping changes to data plans, iPhone tethering coming at OS 4 launch -- Engadget

    mods: you can move this if you see fit, but just thought it would be relevant to Sprint only charging us $10 extra a month with the Evo 4G for uncapped 3G and 4G data.

    From the link:

    DataPlus / DataPro
    The existing $30 fair-use "unlimited" smartphone data plan is being replaced by two new options: $15 per month for 200MB and $25 for 2GB (called "DataPlus" and "DataPro," respectively). Customers currently on the $30 plan are welcome to stay on it, but they can switch at any time without extending their contract.

    AT&T's new overage system is arguably the game changer: on the $15 plan, you'll pay $15 for each additional 200MB, but on the $25 plan, you'll pay $10 for each additional GB. It's simple and straightforward -- but most importantly, it won't bankrupt you if you go over by a gig or three in a month. This compares to $50 per gigabyte of overage on AT&T's 5GB DataConnect plan for laptops.

    The carrier's going to be very flexible about changing between the DataPlus and DataPro plans -- if you're on DataPlus, for example, and you discover that you're blowing past your allotment, you can choose either to start DataPro the following billing cycle, pro-rate it, or apply the higher plan retroactively to the beginning of your current billing cycle. That's pretty wild.

    Tethering will be offered as an add-on to the DataPro plan for an additional $20 per month, which means you'll pay a total of $45 a month for 2GB of data shared between your phone and your tethered devices. If you're light on the usage, it's a sweet deal -- but if you scale it up and you're using the data almost exclusively on your laptop, it compares unfavorably to the traditional DataConnect plan: $60 versus $75 for 5GB (and in the unlikely even you've got a webOS device on Verizon, it compares even less favorably). If you're striking a balance of data use between a smartphone and tethered gear, AT&T's new setup is still pretty solid considering that you would've been paying $60 for the USB stick plus $30 for smartphone data before.
    Yes, it's finally happening: AT&T's iPhones will get access to the tethering option, too.

    iPad users are also affected by the change. The $30 iPad data plan -- lauded for being labeled by AT&T as truly unlimited -- goes away to be replaced by the same $25 / 2GB plan that smartphone users will see, though current subscribers to the $30 plan can continue unaffected.

    Official Press Release:


    DALLAS, June 2, 2010 - AT&T*, the U.S. smartphone leader, today introduced new wireless data plans that make it more affordable for more people to enjoy the benefits of the mobile Internet. Customers can pick the new data plan that best meets their needs - either a $15 per month entry plan or a $25 per month plan with 10 times more data. Current smartphone customers are not required to switch to the new plans, but can choose to do so without a contract extension.

    "AT&T helps mobilize everything on the Internet - your favorite web sites, TV shows, music, games and social networks. Virtually everything previously done while sitting at a computer can now be done on the go," said Ralph de la Vega, president and CEO, AT&T Mobility and Consumer Markets. "To give more people the opportunity to experience these benefits, we're breaking free from the traditional 'one-size-fits-all' pricing model and making the mobile Internet more affordable to a greater number of people."

    Each plan includes unlimited access at no additional charge to more than 20,000 AT&T Wi-Fi Hot Spots in the U.S. Customers can also use unlimited Wi-Fi at home, in the office or elsewhere if available. AT&T will also help customers manage their wireless data usage by sending free text messages when customers reach different usage intervals, and by providing online tools, including a smartphone app that shows monthly usage information.

    The new wireless data plans - including a new tethering option - will be available beginning June 7. Current AT&T voice and texting plans are unchanged.

    More Choice

    The new AT&T plans provide large amounts of data to enable people to enjoy their favorite online activities:

    * DataPlus. Provides 200 megabytes (MB) of data - enough to send/receive 1,000 emails (no attachments), send/receive 150 emails with attachments, view 400 Web pages, post 50 photos on social media sites and 20 minutes of streaming video - for just $15 per month. This plan, which can save customers up to 20 percent off their wireless voice and data charges, is designed for people who primarily like to surf the web, send email and use social networking apps. If customers exceed 200 MB in a monthly billing cycle, they will receive an additional 200 MB of data usage for $15 for use in the month. Currently, 65 percent of AT&T smartphone customers use less than 200 MB of data per month on average.

    * DataPro. Provides 2 gigabytes (GB) of data - enough to send/receive 10,000 emails (no attachments), send/receive 1,500 emails with attachments, view 4,000 Web pages, post 500 photos to social media sites and watch 200 minutes of streaming video - for $25 per month. Should a customer exceed 2 GB during a billing cycle, they will receive an additional 1 GB of data for $10 for use in the month. Currently, 98 percent of AT&T smartphone customers use less than 2 GB of data a month on average.

    * Tethering. Smartphone customers - including iPhone customers - who choose the DataPro plan have the option to add tethering for an additional $20 per month. Tethering enables customers to use their smartphone as a modem to provide a broadband connection for laptop computers, netbooks or other computing devices. Tethering for iPhones will be available when Apple releases OS 4.0 this summer.

    With the new wireless data plans, pricing for a smartphone voice and data bundle now starts at just $54.99 per month for an individual plan, or $24.99 per month for an additional line on a FamilyTalk plan, $15 per month less than the price of the previous entry level bundle.

    For new iPad customers, the $25 per month 2 GB plan will replace the existing $29.99 unlimited plan. iPad customers will continue to pre-pay for their wireless data plan and no contract is required. Existing iPad customers who have the $29.99 per month unlimited plan can keep that plan or switch to the new $25 per month plan with 2 GB of data.

    Wi-Fi at 20,000 AT&T Hot Spots

    The vast majority of smartphones that AT&T offers have built-in Wi-Fi, which lets the devices automatically switch from the wireless network to a Wi-Fi hotspot without prompting, making Wi-Fi even more convenient and easy to use. This enables customers to use Wi-Fi in the home, office and at public locations where available. Using Wi-Fi does not count against a customer's monthly data plan usage total. In addition, virtually all AT&T smartphone customers have access at no additional charge to more than 20,000 AT&T Wi-Fi Hot Spots at Starbucks, Barnes & Noble, and other U.S. locations. Customers can get more information on how to use Wi-Fi and find the location of AT&T Wi-Fi Hot Spots at AT&T Wi-Fi Access - Wireless from AT&T.

    Monitoring and Managing Usage

    To help customers easily check their data usage, AT&T has made the information readily available in a number of ways:

    * Customer Text Notifications On Data Usage. When customers begin to approach their monthly usage limit, AT&T will send three text notifications - when they reach 65 percent, 90 percent and 100 percent of the threshold. Customers will also be sent emails if AT&T has their email address.

    * Data Usage Monitoring. Additionally, customers with iPhones and other select devices can use the free AT&T myWireless application to check data usage. The application is available for download in several smartphone app stores. Also, AT&T customers can call *DATA# from their wireless phone to check their data usage for the current billing period. They receive a free text message with their usage information. Customers can also go online to Cell Phones and Cell Phone Plans - Wireless from AT&T to see all their usage information, past and present.

    * Data Calculator. The easy-to-use online data calculator enables customers to estimate their mobile data usage and get a better sense for which data plan is right for them. It's located at Data Calculator.

    Customers can learn more about the new plans online at New Smartphone Data Plans - Wireless from AT&T, by contacting AT&T customer service at 1-800-331-0500, or by visiting an AT&T retail store.

    AT&T expects these new data plans to have minimal revenue impact this year and to not affect previous guidance for 2010.

  2. Red-Droid

    Red-Droid Newbie

    They are hosing their customers!! Not only did they up the ETF yesterday for those that may leave contracts for Sprint, now they Sync the new data usage plan to begin the day Steve Jobs is making a huge keynote announcement about OS4 and the iPhone 4...

    So...screw the ones that leave you and complicate the lives of those that stay. Nice AT&T...nice.
  3. freeza

    freeza Android Enthusiast

    ZING! come on over to Sprint, AT&T customers!
  4. Glad my iPad is wifi. $25 a month for 2GB is a joke.
  5. TheBlackPrince

    TheBlackPrince Well-Known Member

    Technically since 98% of their customers supposedly use less than 2GB a month, then they're actually reducing people's rates by $5.
  6. tjwoo

    tjwoo Well-Known Member

    are you pulling numbers out from your nether regions or you've a source for this?
  7. gibsonhtp

    gibsonhtp Member
    Thread Starter

    It's in the press release.
  8. jay2thab

    jay2thab Newbie

    I read this and suddenly I loved sprint a little bit more! We all complain about this and that but in reality sprint does a pretty good job and the prices are good. I myself was falling victim to bill jealousy and was forgetting that gone are the days of 30 dollar sero days. I am happy and I am looking forward to my evo.
  9. DrScrubs

    DrScrubs Well-Known Member

    Then the question is, are they pulling that fact out of their nether regions. Besides, I would rather have the safety of knowing I am unlimited than worrying about going over minutes AND data. Especially since Android phones polls for data information all the time.

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  10. tracerit

    tracerit Android Enthusiast

    just to clarify, with the $10 evo "tax" we have absolute unlimited 3g AND 4g data (including tethering) through the phone right?
  11. gibsonhtp

    gibsonhtp Member
    Thread Starter

    includes usb tethering.
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  12. shadowarz

    shadowarz Lurker

    more customers for sprint and verizon with spending a dime on advertising.....sprint and verizon should send att a thank you card
  13. MisterEd

    MisterEd Android Expert

    For the VAST MAJORITY of customers this is an excellent deal. For those that suck up data like a Sham-Wow it is not.
  14. vicshalls

    vicshalls Android Enthusiast

    You have to be kidding me? They think that is good business? I keep asking my friends that are on att why they wont leave. All they can say is that sprint sux. We live in Houston for crying out loud. Nothing here sux except for cricket! and even that is not so bad as long as you dont leave the city. I am not sure how people can afford to stay with att. I guess the iphone is just that good to them. I have a frriend at work that pays 230 a month for her phone and air card. We have a company discount on sprint and with that and two phones and an air card I pay about 150. That math makes no sense to me. and she does not even have an iphone. geeze what a rip!!!!
  15. tracerit

    tracerit Android Enthusiast

    haha att customers, bend over!

    i browse the web on my phone everyday, mostly web pages though, and 2gb seems like so little for $25 so i checked my sprint account and for the last 3 months i used 500mb, 700mb, and 1.4gb. so i guess it's not too bad, but that 1.4gb was probably when i tethered with my laptop and 1.4gb is pretty close to 2gb already.

    why can't they have released this after i got my evo, hopefully we won't be getting an influx of att transplants snatching up our evos!
  16. bunnymud

    bunnymud Well-Known Member

    Someone should make a website concerning this issue :D
  17. ImmaSlave4U

    ImmaSlave4U Android Enthusiast

    The tech blogs are praising the change as a win for the vast majorty of customers.

    I strem a lot of Fox News on Sprint TV Xtra, as well as watch a couple shows 'on demand'. I also watch a good amount of youtube videos. I have the Palm Pre, and don't tether, and my latest Sprint bill shows I've used 14,673,849 kilobytes of Sprint data. Is that basically 14GB??
  18. RagingSamster

    RagingSamster Well-Known Member

    My company has an exclusive contract with ATT including employee discounts, I'm buying a sprint phone, huh, wonder why that is?

    I for one welcome all the soon to be new sprint customers
  19. nethed

    nethed Newbie

    This forum post is going to turn into a blog post at some point, but here's my two cents.

    AT&T did two things with their re-jiggering of the data usage structure. First, they admit that they are amenable to tiered bandwidth caps, and second, they also admit that they don't want their users to use more than they do now. Both are backwards thinking.

    Second thing first.

    The previous cap was at 5 gigs, so it stands to reason that if AT&T wanted people to expand the use of their iPhones/smartphones they would make the 'lite' plan be capped at 5 gigs, and the hardcore plan be higher. Essentially they are saying that they don't see people using their phone more in the future, and if they do want to use the phone more, they will be charged. We've seen the iPhone 4G hardware, it has a front facing camera, that will use more bandwidth than the current device. AT&T made it clear that extended use of these devices is not something they want to happen.

    Tier'ed pay as you go bandwidth pricing:

    I have to admit, I heard Jeff Jarvis talk about this on This Week in Google. When did Compuserve and AOL start sending 3.5" floppies to our door like candy? It was the same time that the telcos dropped the per-minute local calling fees and adopted flat rate. What happened, well, the internet developed then. It was because the clock was off, and people were not worried about extra fees. People began to browse the internet more, visit chat rooms just for the hell of it, and download bigger files because they could. At the same time, content providers were improving content for the more eager audience. AT&T (and Verizon) just re-instituted the clock on their mobile online services, which will hamper development and ultimately harm AT&T, or until they decide to turn off the clocks.

    Sprint 's 10/month fee uncaps the internet, and derestricts its users. If Sprint just had the money to massively invest in lower frequency 4G (Clearwire is somewhere 2.4-2.6Ghz range), they would dominate. 2.4Ghz is bad for building penetration and distance, so something like the LTE 700-800Mhz range would be better. But, on the other than, 2.4Ghz gives you more time chunks to split between more users, so its a trade-off of course.

    Anyway, not to go further off the beaten path, but Sprint has a SIGNIFICANT opening here, if they just can find a better ad agency to show it! (Please, no more Dan Hesse)

    I'm going to research this more and post it on my blog (see links in profile, I don't want to look like I'm shilling too much)
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  20. Joppie

    Joppie Well-Known Member

    This is true. But AT&T is in the business of MAKING money... not saving people any. Something's on the horizon here, I tells ya! Maybe the new iPhone will have a constant VPN connection to iTunes or something that actually allow AT&T to reap the benefits of these new charges. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. :p
  21. Chief7

    Chief7 Well-Known Member

    After reading the thread about the total lack of advertising for the EVO maybe those poor dumb AT&T customers don't know about the EVO and won't be aware of their options until after we've all got our new jewel! :D
  22. carmendiva

    carmendiva Android Expert

    this is way above my head.....i'll just read and look smart lol

  23. WoW, Sprint has to be jumping for joy over that stupid decision by AT&T. Sprint will get lots of converts I bet.
  24. Oridus

    Oridus Android Enthusiast

    Delete this post please.

    Didn't see the other post while posting mine. Had gone afk for a bit. Sorry
  25. eieio

    eieio Android Expert

    Data is being consumed more by users

    Voice is no longer profitable, data will be the new profit center for carriers..

    The networks are being bogged down with all the new data rich phones like the EVO and The new IPhone..

    They will consume lots more data in comparison to the phones of the past. Allowing tethering will make it even worse and the carriers want to profit off of this..

    By changing the pricing structure now, ATT will be able to capitalize on the new wave of data users that will start to take over.

    2gb is childs play for heavy users.. I consume 2 gb this morning sending out emails..

    They are basically getting ready for the future that all carriers know is coming.. Video stream, video chatting,hulu, netflix, skype, online games, tethering, GPS and all the other features that will be added that consume lots of data..
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