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Root is autokiller for root phones useful?

Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by iamloco724, Feb 26, 2010.

  1. iamloco724

    iamloco724 Well-Known Member
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    ive seen this app in the market for rooted phones..is this useful does it help in anyway with speed and batter performance if so what settings do you set at cause it looked confusing to me
     

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  2. shrink57

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    I tried it for a while and found no real difference so uninstalled it. When experimenting with different ROMS, speeds, kernels and who knows what, the less stuff I have installed makes it easier to evaluate my setup.
     
  3. UBRocked

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    I've found that I can't stand programs that automatically kill your apps. I like to control that because I hate when an app gets killed when I'm multi-tasking and I haven't set that app for "exclusion". I use Advance Task Manager and put the little "kill all" widget somewhere on one of my screens and use it when needed. Just my 2 cents :)
     
  4. shrink57

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    It is so rare that I kill stuff now (PETA would be proud :cool:) that I keep a shortcut to Processes on my desktop and kill stuff manually if I have to.
     
  5. johnlgalt

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    Most would argue that task killers and whatnot are a bad idea - but I can guarantee that if I didn't ahve ATM installed on my Ultimate 3.7 install, I'd be up the creek. Sans paddle.

    However, automatically killing apps it probably pointless - if you need to automatically kill them, then they are probably going to start right back up - so you auto kill - so they start back ....

    The pattern can be a bad one, b/c if the app is not used, it literally sinks to the bottom of the river, so to speak, and just sits there idling. However, with an auto killer, it needs extra power to monitor for apps, and then kills them - and then your app(s) start back up, which uses a lot more power and CPU cycles than an app lying in waiting at idle (almost 99% of the time this is true).

    Ultimate 3.7 has one flaw so far - ATM ran and automatically killed apps without me knowing it was set to do so - I promptly closed it down after removing all auto killing features.

    That being said, however, I did have to go back and run ATM to kill some apps as I was installing and configuring everything this morning - and every thing was staying open - Touitier, AIM, FB, MySpace, Amazon, eBay, PayPal....all of a sudden U3.7 started to get really slow - so I killed a bunch of apps that I had previously ran but did not need open anymore.

    But, IMNSHO, I won't let a computer / CPU / phone decide for me what gets killed and what does not. If it needs doing, I do it myself. Manually.
     
  6. ssantan2

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    it seems autokiller doesnt actually autokill apps but changes the settings of android os's own killer. I read a bit about it but it seems to be quite different from your conventional app killer/manager and that is why it needs root.
     
  7. johnlgalt

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    Next time I'll read up on an app then lol.

    Sounds like I may wanna look into this....
     
  8. eL777

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    I have been using this app for about a week now. I noticed a difference in speed after opening a lot of apps up. It definitely seems to always have a lot of available memory for whatever app I open no matter what else (or how many apps) I have already opened. This might be because I set the preset to "aggressive." The downfall, however, is that it pops up a window to "force close" or "wait" about 90% of the time when I boot up. I just hit wait and it still works fine... just annoying to see that window almost every time I restart.

    EDIT: oh ya forgot to mention this... it seems to work by increasing the available memory in the first slot of memory in the running services setting. So, for example, your memory might say "Avail: 46mb + 41mb in 4, Other: 40mb in 3." I have noticed that the first number (in this case 46mb) is always higher than it used to be without this program no matter how much crap I open. I assume that this is the "go to" memory when you open an app, therefore, I never seem to get a hiccup or slowdown when I open a lot of apps.
     
  9. jbulluck

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    How has your experience been with Advanced Task Manager using FroYo 2.2??? Who is the Dev. for the one you use?

    I use Advanced Task Killer or ATK by ReChild and its been pretty good to me so far but thought I would try something else out!

    After looking up the one I think you use by Arron La, it states "not as effective on 2.2"...so thought I would ask you your experience?
     
  10. UBRocked

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    Wow...old post revived LOL

    My comments are the same now as they were back then...but now believe that automatic task killers are not only unnecessary, they are counter productive and will make for a slower android experience.

    I now use system panel lite because I like the information provided and the ability to kill tasks that I truly do not want running. Basically I'll use the "kill all" if things seem to get a little laggy because of apps I'm no longer using that are running in the background. But usually...I just leave it all alone ;)
     
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  11. publicanimal

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    I more or less agree in reference to Task Killers in general (and the post above yours was referring to ATK, not AutoKiller), but AutoKiller is different. It tweaks the settings of Android's native task manager to make it more or less aggressive in memory management, hence it requires root access. AutoKiller IS NOT a Task Killer app.

    There are several presets that range from moderate to agressive, I use the "optimum" preset and as far as I can tell it's helping my phone run more smoothly.
     
  12. patch

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    "Autokillers" will just slow down your phone, no need to do this on Android.

    If you get really annoyed about an application that keeps starting, why not uninstall it?
     
  13. publicanimal

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    Did you even read my post above? AutoKiller is NOT a task killer app. It tweaks the native Android memory management settings. Depending on how you tweak it, it can definitely speed up your phone. I find that if available memory gets down to about 35 MB, my phone starts to lag. So I set AutoKiller to keep about 45 MB available. The Android OS is still doing the work, it's just a tad more aggressive with the memory management.

    Seriously, READ before you comment about an app you clearly know nothing about.
     
  14. Papadroid

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    +1, Autokiller was one of the first apps I installed after rooting. I know in the linux world that unused memory is wasted memory however my experience with Android has always been when the free memory gets to around 30M or lower the phone starts lagging. I put my settings to optimum and my phone does not have anywhere near the lag that it would without this app. And like publicanimal stated, this is not a task killer this is a memory management app and does not kill processes only manages the memory that the processes use.
     
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  15. publicanimal

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    Yes, the optimal preset is where it's at. I will never understand the people who in the face of serious lag still claim that on it's own Android does a perfect job of memory management. Not the case for the Droid, otherwise we wouldn't experience lag. In my opinion if your Droid is unrooted, a taskkiller is useful (if not indispensible) for killing extraneous tasks, but only when experiencing lag. Once you are rooted, you can use AutoKiller to tweak the system settings to abate lag. It works.

    More info at the dev's FAQ page:
    AndRS Studio
     
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  16. thaDroidz

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    Wow..
    I am gonna run this for a few days. Free memory spike up to 72mb for an instant.. Holding steady at 50ish. Set on optimum (40/50/60).

    What are you running foreground, visible and Secondary at?

    I have been searching all morning how to partition me SD card to allow all my app data to be stored on SD hoping it would help free up some memory, with this app I won't need to look any deeper..
     

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