Root Is it possible to backup the ROM on unrooted phone?

[Rastaman-FB]

I know.
I can provide you with a nandroid of my system and you can unpack and look for yourself. No busybox. I do however have a folder on my sdcard named res that has a sub folder containing two busybox files; busybox_a and busybox_b. maybe created by yaffsexpert. I have no idea what program put them there.

EDIT:
Ok i unrooted my phone by removing all the files from phone superuser.apk.. su.. unrevoked-forever.zip etc. For some reason I had 3 copies of Superuser.apk in two different locations in system. Guess I play around too much. Also had su in two locations on phone. Also deleted all the busybox files installed from market app.

I factory reset my phone

installed visionary+
I now after temp root have busybox installed in xbin folder.
reboot phone and all gone accept superuser.apk.

I think this will work to a mild extent. I'm sure the remount command will not work without s-off so that is the only roadblock.

how have you installed busybox to xbin?
you realise you can only do system/xbin installs because you have s-off right?

 

[SUroot]

Rasta was wondering if its possible to S-off whilst only having temp root.

If that does work and you can extract the correct hboot version from anywhere else, as it only has to be done once, on one phone.. That could be a way forward too.

 

[Rastaman-FB]

but then thats s-offing how would you return the hboot back to stock
would you be able to take the stock hboot from the pb99img.zip and fastboot flash hboot hboot.img ?

 

[SUroot]

I believe so yes but I haven't tested.

 

[waynestir]

how have you installed busybox to xbin?
you realise you can only do system/xbin installs because you have s-off right?

that is where the files were. it was just temporary when I tried to access the files directly i.e. copy it did nothing but I could execute the command in terminal.


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as for the rest of what you guys are talking about I haven't any way to try that. My phone is CDMA not GSM. If they function the same in that respect I could try but don't believe so as for time being my s-off is perminant and I cannot get s-on.

even with s-off I haven't been able to flash anything via fastboot. It returns remote not allowed.
I've been toying around with the misc partition trying to get the correct information in so I could get ota to apply as the ro.cid is the only error I keep getting. HBOOT won't find misc.img or NV.img and fastboot wont permit remote.

 

[SUroot]

You're right, cdma is a completely different kettle of fish

 

[waynestir]

Why couldn't you use HBOOT from any WWE RUU for GSM Desire?

I've used the RUU for Alltel and the one for US Cellular on my phone which worked fine; and my phone is nTelos.

can you even pull hboot from phone? How would this be done?