On my samsung A50 the permissions for telephone cannot be changed for AR emoji, my files and camera. All these apps are samsungs and do not describe what the telephone permission is used for. If I look at the telephone permission on the camera version 11.0.11.22 it states the device requires these permission to operate which is false. No phone requires a camera to operate.
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puppykickr
Android Expert
So use a different camera app.
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.simplemobiletools.camera/
Also, there is the option down at rhe bottom of the pic you posted to see all apps that have that permission.
Be sure to tap that, and then on the next screen tap the overflow icon (usually a 3 dot icon) and select 'show system'.
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.simplemobiletools.camera/
Also, there is the option down at rhe bottom of the pic you posted to see all apps that have that permission.
Be sure to tap that, and then on the next screen tap the overflow icon (usually a 3 dot icon) and select 'show system'.
You did not read the post properly. there is more than one app that requires telephone permissions and the camera never requires telephone permissions to operate.
There was another thread about the camera app having an "enforced" telephone recently for a different Samsung model, so I think it's probably a standard Samsung thing now (it's not an Android thing, since we have 2 phones in my house running Android 11, one of them on the July 2021 update, and neither has a camera app that can even be granted phone permission. Whatever this is, it's Samsung).
The reason isn't clear: phone having camera permission makes sense for video calling, but camera having phone permission doesn't add up unless you can initiate a call from the camera app. It will need microphone permission in order to record video, but that's a separate permission (to the extent that my Phone app has separate "phone" and "microphone" permissions). But if there is a reason for it I really doubt they'll tell you. Sadly there is plenty of precedent for manufacturers granting their own apps unnecessary and, in some cases, non-deniable permissions (Google as well as OEMs being guilty). Whether this particular permission is due to some feature nobody has been able to work out, simple incompetence on Samsung's part, or some internal policy of granting themselves extra permissions routinely so that people get used to them and don't question it any more, I have no idea.
(Incidentally I don't know anyone who makes video calls using the phone app: people who make video calls are in my experience are invariably using a messaging app to make those calls rather than the phone app (or, if they are older, Skype
). In fact I'm not even sure which if any UK networks even support cellular video calling: it was heavily advertised by one carrier many years ago, I think as part of their 3G rollout, but was expensive and never caught on, and I know that my own provider doesn't even offer it.)
The reason isn't clear: phone having camera permission makes sense for video calling, but camera having phone permission doesn't add up unless you can initiate a call from the camera app. It will need microphone permission in order to record video, but that's a separate permission (to the extent that my Phone app has separate "phone" and "microphone" permissions). But if there is a reason for it I really doubt they'll tell you. Sadly there is plenty of precedent for manufacturers granting their own apps unnecessary and, in some cases, non-deniable permissions (Google as well as OEMs being guilty). Whether this particular permission is due to some feature nobody has been able to work out, simple incompetence on Samsung's part, or some internal policy of granting themselves extra permissions routinely so that people get used to them and don't question it any more, I have no idea.
(Incidentally I don't know anyone who makes video calls using the phone app: people who make video calls are in my experience are invariably using a messaging app to make those calls rather than the phone app (or, if they are older, Skype
). In fact I'm not even sure which if any UK networks even support cellular video calling: it was heavily advertised by one carrier many years ago, I think as part of their 3G rollout, but was expensive and never caught on, and I know that my own provider doesn't even offer it.)No. You are incorrect the Camera never needs telephone permissions this is proven by downloading another Camera app. Also I have asked Samsung what is the usage of this permission and they did not answer. Samsungs camera app actual uses my mobile data, this has nothing to do with video calling those are separate apps.There was another thread about the camera app having an "enforced" telephone recently for a different Samsung model, so I think it's probably a standard Samsung thing now (it's not an Android thing, since we have 2 phones in my house running Android 11, one of them on the July 2021 update, and neither has a camera app that can even be granted phone permission. Whatever this is, it's Samsung).
The reason isn't clear: phone having camera permission makes sense for video calling, but camera having phone permission doesn't add up unless you can initiate a call from the camera app. It will need microphone permission in order to record video, but that's a separate permission (to the extent that my Phone app has separate "phone" and "microphone" permissions). But if there is a reason for it I really doubt they'll tell you. Sadly there is plenty of precedent for manufacturers granting their own apps unnecessary and, in some cases, non-deniable permissions (Google as well as OEMs being guilty). Whether this particular permission is due to some feature nobody has been able to work out, simple incompetence on Samsung's part, or some internal policy of granting themselves extra permissions routinely so that people get used to them and don't question it any more, I have no idea.
(Incidentally I don't know anyone who makes video calls using the phone app: people who make video calls are in my experience are invariably using a messaging app to make those calls rather than the phone app (or, if they are older, Skype
Er, I said that the camera doesn't need telephone permission. I said that the cameras on my phones don't even ask for it (which means they cannot be granted it). However your shot shows that the Samsung camera on your device does require this, and I noted that we'd seen this on a different Samsung device recently.
It's unfortunate that Android doesn't allow you to turn off internet access for apps (you can use a firewall, but the best one require root - non-root ones route all of your data via a VPN in order to filter connections).
It's unfortunate that Android doesn't allow you to turn off internet access for apps (you can use a firewall, but the best one require root - non-root ones route all of your data via a VPN in order to filter connections).
well this is a big security problem because I have recorded mobile data usage and noone including Samsung members support can tell me what it is used for.
I have found both my files and camera app fro Samsung have telephone permissions.
my file version 12.2.00.251
camera version 11.0.11.22
This change appear to occur with the update to Android 11. Is there any other users with this version preinstalled on your phone?
Is there a reporting mechanism for bad apps that have permissions they should not have like telephone permission and cannot be removed from the android phone without using adb?
puppykickr
Android Expert
You can try telling Google PlayStore about it, but don't count on anything happening quickly- or at all.
What app(s) are you questioning, and what permissions?
Your best best bet is to just disable such apps and get other ones yourself.
Stock apps are barely functional and are only there to get you by until you find something better.
What app(s) are you questioning, and what permissions?
Your best best bet is to just disable such apps and get other ones yourself.
Stock apps are barely functional and are only there to get you by until you find something better.
svim
Extreme Android User
Keep in mind that Google's Play Store is a massive online repository with millions of apps, and more get added every hour from across the planet. Google has Automated Intelligence in place to scan for obvious 'bad' apps but that can only do so much, and to hire enough trained staff to thoroughly examine and approve each submitted app isn't a reality. (Something that would require hundreds if not thousands of billable time each hour of every day). So problems are inevitable.
But something like an app that requires the Phone to be enabled in its Permissions is also something that's dependent on what the app does. If the Phone is part of its functionality than that's one thing but if you just find it objectionable, that's a different matter. Simply because you find an aspect to an app you personally don't like, that doesn't necessarily mean it is a 'bad' app. it's just something you don't like about it. It could be a matter where most people don't mind or do find it useful as is. But all this is anecdotal and dependent on a lot of missing details so there's no context.
Anyway, go the Play Store page for the app in question, find and open the Developer Contact link, and there should be the contact info you can use to voice your complaint. If it is a valid issue they may respond, but don't be surprised if you don't hear anything back.
But in most situations, you set things like Permissions, Notifications, and such for your apps using the Settings >> Apps menus, and/or the Settings menu in the app itself so it works however you prefer. Or you might find it less of a hassle to just do what @puppykickr suggests, find a different app that does the same thing but is to your liking.
But something like an app that requires the Phone to be enabled in its Permissions is also something that's dependent on what the app does. If the Phone is part of its functionality than that's one thing but if you just find it objectionable, that's a different matter. Simply because you find an aspect to an app you personally don't like, that doesn't necessarily mean it is a 'bad' app. it's just something you don't like about it. It could be a matter where most people don't mind or do find it useful as is. But all this is anecdotal and dependent on a lot of missing details so there's no context.
Anyway, go the Play Store page for the app in question, find and open the Developer Contact link, and there should be the contact info you can use to voice your complaint. If it is a valid issue they may respond, but don't be surprised if you don't hear anything back.
But in most situations, you set things like Permissions, Notifications, and such for your apps using the Settings >> Apps menus, and/or the Settings menu in the app itself so it works however you prefer. Or you might find it less of a hassle to just do what @puppykickr suggests, find a different app that does the same thing but is to your liking.
The permissions for telephone should not be there as it serves no funtion. The permission cannot be removed and the camera app as well as my files which also has telephone permission is from Samsung.
The permission cannot be disabled that is why it is clearly illegal no Camera app ever needs telephone permission. Whne I asked Samsung members no response came back describing the function of the telephone permission.
this is also on my note 10+ 5G. i do not see an issue here.
puppykickr
Android Expert
Disable the whole app, not the permission.
Then use a different app.
Then use a different app.
If you look at the my files description in the Galaxy store it states that there is only file permission nothing describes the telephone permission or how it is used. The telephone permission can only be used to send unauthorized information via Celluar communications.
https://r1.community.samsung.com/t5...sage-images-12032846=3321899i4F0351B1E9B39043
Is there any a50 that do not have the telephone permissions on their camera app version 11.0.11.22 running android 11?
again, its a system app. pretty sure it is on most samsung devices. just sell your phone and get something like a pixel, where you can root and disable all of your system apps to your hearts desire.
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All A50 will have it, unless you root and install a suitable custom ROM.
OP,
you have been helped by some of the most long standing members on this forum. They have brought you some good advice and even attempted to help you.
You seem to be getting frustrated with the device. If you still feel that you need more help, you should reach out to the phone manufacturer and inquire about the apps they have installed and ask those developers why you can and can't have access to certain things on these apps you are inquiring about.
There is no need for you to post in different forums about the same question. It clouds the forum and confuses people who are legitimately trying to help you.
Lastly, you are also welcome to sell the phone and purchase one that meets your needs. Arguing with members on here and speaking to them in condescending easys will not be tolerated.
you have been helped by some of the most long standing members on this forum. They have brought you some good advice and even attempted to help you.
You seem to be getting frustrated with the device. If you still feel that you need more help, you should reach out to the phone manufacturer and inquire about the apps they have installed and ask those developers why you can and can't have access to certain things on these apps you are inquiring about.
There is no need for you to post in different forums about the same question. It clouds the forum and confuses people who are legitimately trying to help you.
Lastly, you are also welcome to sell the phone and purchase one that meets your needs. Arguing with members on here and speaking to them in condescending easys will not be tolerated.
I have contact Samsung memebers and placed a request to identify the function of the telephone permission. I am waiting for an example of how the telephone permission is used.
One of the Samsung moderators on Samsung members is investigating Samsung's my files permissions and return an answer. Responded Aug-8-2021
https://r1.community.samsung.com/t5/galaxy-a/my-files-preinstalled-problem/m-p/12032846
https://r1.community.samsung.com/t5/galaxy-a/my-files-preinstalled-problem/m-p/12032846