So wait in line to use one. The extra few minutes you spend won't hurt you in the long run. Spending $1000+ over the life of a 2 year contract on a smartphone just to save those few minutes makes no sense.
I have to disagree. As a college student(an upcoming sophomore), there is really no such thing as waiting around a few minutes for a computer.
Most people are on facebook and have learned the trick of hiding the fact their on facebook while looking like they are doing the work
If your library is allowing this, then it's the library's fault. It's not that difficult to set up a proxy filter to lock out Facebook or a time limit to help enforce acceptable use of their computers. And if you see someone on FB when you have a more legitimate need to use a library computer, it should be no problem to politely ask that person to give it up, or find a staff member to do it.I have to disagree. As a college student(an upcoming sophomore), there is really no such thing as waiting around a few minutes for a computer.
Most people are on facebook and have learned the trick of hiding the fact their on facebook while looking like they are doing the work
So if you wait, chances are you will be waiting around for awhile
Although his argument about waiting is more so ideal of getting a nice laptop and not a Droid X
Name ONE university in this country that requires, as terms of enrollment, all of its students to own an iPhone or an iPod Touch. You can't. You're either lying or totally misinformed. And sorry, nobody's going to believe you just because you "read it somewhere".
Please, stop with the "risking getting sick" argument. At a college student's age, trudging through snow or cold weather isn't going to kill anyone unless you're doing it without clothes. Besides, by your reasoning if classes aren't cancelled you STILL have to go out into the cold weather to go to class, so you're at risk no matter what happens.
Solution: don't wake up late.
A totally specious reason to justify having a smartphone.
How much of a HUGE timesaver is it? Unless you're doing this constantly, you'll save yourself a few minutes max, unless your library doesn't have computer terminals nearby for you to walk over and do a search.
Or you can write the word down on a piece of paper and look it up later.
Taking a photo of a chalkboard or whiteboard with a smartphone camera, indoors, with poor lighting, is hardly helpful. And if you want to record a professor's lecture, there are tiny digital voice recorders out there that are much cheaper, have insane amounts of recording time, and longer battery life than a smartphone.
Or you can use a paper calendar or a portable day planner. Much cheaper. It's a wonder how college kids stayed organized before PDAs and smartphones, isn't it.
Sorry, but if my kid approached me with even half of the reasons you gave to try to justify me buying him a Droid X, I'd just laugh in his face.
If you want to sleep in because of an active social life, that's fine. But that's no justification to own a smartphone. If classes are that important to you, then get up earlier. Simple.
I have no idea why you brought up printers. You regularly print stuff off your phone?
So wait in line to use one. The extra few minutes you spend won't hurt you in the long run. Spending $1000+ over the life of a 2 year contract on a smartphone just to save those few minutes makes no sense.
If listening to EVERY word the professor is saying in the lecture is that important to you, then how is it easier to look up a word on a smartphone in the middle of that lecture?
Then you didn't shop around well enough:
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-ICD-BX700-Digital-Recorder-Microphone/dp/B001RB1XVG/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1280153841&sr=8-4
You don't even need a "decent" audio recorder that records hundreds of hours at a time, just one that can record monaural audio for a few hours. Can cost less than $35. What exactly do you need to do with $90 digital voice recorder than you can't do with the one I posted above as an example?
Then the bottom line is, you're too lazy. You just want to input dates and times into a calendar and expect the calendar to remind you about every single appointment you've put into it. It wouldn't kill you to take a look at a paper calendar or a school planner every so often to see what's coming up in the next few days.
Besides, if you REALLY want to do it electronically, a simple PDA or even an iPod Touch would work just as well, and would cost less in the long run.
Name ONE university in this country that requires, as terms of enrollment, all of its students to own an iPhone or an iPod Touch. You can't. You're either lying or totally misinformed. And sorry, nobody's going to believe you just because you "read it somewhere".
I have a very open mind. And as I mentioned in my first post on this thread, I'm a university professor so I've had much more experience, both as a student and faculty, with college and college life than you ever will. You completely missed my point - nobody's denying that a smartphone is a helpful tool for college. So is a car, or satellite TV, or a GPS unit, or a top of the line Dell XPS computer - but all of these things are just as much frivolous luxury items in college as they are useful tools, and you can easily get by in college without them. If you had used these excuses to try to talk me into buying you a smartphone for college, you would have failed miserably. Your last post hasn't changed that.
If you want to sleep in because of an active social life, that's fine. But that's no justification to own a smartphone. If classes are that important to you, then get up earlier. Simple.
I have no idea why you brought up printers. You regularly print stuff off your phone?
So wait in line to use one. The extra few minutes you spend won't hurt you in the long run. Spending $1000+ over the life of a 2 year contract on a smartphone just to save those few minutes makes no sense.
If listening to EVERY word the professor is saying in the lecture is that important to you, then how is it easier to look up a word on a smartphone in the middle of that lecture?
Then you didn't shop around well enough:
Amazon.com: Sony ICD-BX700 Digital Voice Recorder with Stereo…
You don't even need a "decent" audio recorder that records hundreds of hours at a time, just one that can record monaural audio for a few hours. Can cost less than $35. What exactly do you need to do with $90 digital voice recorder than you can't do with the one I posted above as an example?
Then the bottom line is, you're too lazy. You just want to input dates and times into a calendar and expect the calendar to remind you about every single appointment you've put into it. It wouldn't kill you to take a look at a paper calendar or a school planner every so often to see what's coming up in the next few days.
Besides, if you REALLY want to do it electronically, a simple PDA or even an iPod Touch would work just as well, and would cost less in the long run.
Name ONE university in this country that requires, as terms of enrollment, all of its students to own an iPhone or an iPod Touch. You can't. You're either lying or totally misinformed. And sorry, nobody's going to believe you just because you "read it somewhere".
I have a very open mind. And as I mentioned in my first post on this thread, I'm a university professor so I've had much more experience, both as a student and faculty, with college and college life than you ever will. You completely missed my point - nobody's denying that a smartphone is a helpful tool for college. So is a car, or satellite TV, or a GPS unit, or a top of the line Dell XPS computer - but all of these things are just as much frivolous luxury items in college as they are useful tools, and you can easily get by in college without them. If you had used these excuses to try to talk me into buying you a smartphone for college, you would have failed miserably. Your last post hasn't changed that.
There's a difference between giving incoming freshmen iPods/iPads and REQUIRING all students to have one. As far as these schools are concerned, you are free to do whatever you want with your devices - use them, sell them, or destroy them. Just because a college gives its freshmen something doesn't mean they're required to own them.Duke gives all incoming Freshman iPods, and Illinois Institute of Technology is giving all incoming Freshman iPads. I named two.
I'm not talking about a school of pharmacy with at most a few hundred students, I'm talking about a normal undergraduate university. And Seton Hill, like Duke and IIT, does not REQUIRE ownership of these devices. Again, you fail.
Nothing wrong with that. I just find the examples/excuses that mlynchmob16 gives to justify his ownership of a smartphone rather lame and ridiculous.But I know it isn't a necessity to have a smartphone, TV, iPod, GPS at school. But they are helpful and can make college life simpler as well as more enjoyable. I compromised with my parents, they will pay for the phone and I pay for the data.
Nobody's getting worked up or taking this personally. I was responding to another's post pointing out how none of his reasons were terribly convincing. Unless you're a moderator, you don't get to tell me when I can and can't post a response in this thread.Dude - are you this guys Dad? Because you sure are getting worked up over something that is 100% not your business.
The guy asked for some reasons how he could convince his parents to get him a Smart phone. If you cannot think of any reasons then don't post. He didn't ask for people to argue with him over the why having a smart phone is not smart.
Take a step back and don't make this personal. It's just a guy asking for advice. Not everyone is going to agree with what he wants, but there is no need to argue about it.
Nobody's getting worked up or taking this personally. I was responding to another's post pointing out how none of his reasons were terribly convincing. Unless you're a moderator, you don't get to tell me when I can and can't post a response in this thread.
Nope.Let me guess, you teach economics or accounting?
Credible evidence? One pharmacy school (less than 1% of all pharmacy schools in the USA) in the entire nation is credible evidence of what exactly?Edit -
You say you have an open mind about things, yet you have called the OP a liar and you called him lazy. The OP also called your bluff and gave you credible evidence that schools are moving towards requiring devices like this. Sure, it was just one school of pharmacy, but that is a start. I'm sure we will see more schools move in this direction. Just like 15 years ago, most schools did not require a laptop....
There's a difference between giving incoming freshmen iPods/iPads and REQUIRING all students to have one. As far as these schools are concerned, you are free to do whatever you want with your devices - use them, sell them, or destroy them. Just because a college gives its freshmen something doesn't mean they're required to own them.
I'm not talking about a school of pharmacy with at most a few hundred students, I'm talking about a normal undergraduate university. And Seton Hill, like Duke and IIT, does not REQUIRE ownership of these devices. Again, you fail.
Nothing wrong with that. I just find the examples/excuses that mlynchmob16 gives to justify his ownership of a smartphone rather lame and ridiculous.
Credible evidence? One pharmacy school (less than 1% of all pharmacy schools in the USA) in the entire nation is credible evidence of what exactly?
Calling the OP a liar and lazy has nothing to do with openmindedness, it's the truth.
Barcode scanner, calendars, paper research...you need a smartphone
Nope.
Calling the OP a liar and lazy has nothing to do with openmindedness, it's the truth.
No it is not the truth. I have had several discussions with my parents about this and am always truthful with them.
Please explain to me how wanting a smart-phone makes me lazy?
Again, no where in my OP does it say I NEED one, it states that I want one.
I am fortunate that my parents are putting me through school since I am attending a private university. I do have a job and have stated I am going to be paying the data plan.
And besides I have a car, a Suite for this upcoming school year, and a very nice TV (which I bought as well), so shouldn't I round all that off with a smart-phone?
All of you college students saying a smartphone/laptop is not needed must have easy majors. I'm not being a dick, I'm just jealous. In my undergrad years I was rocking a blackberry. voice recorder was used constantly, the calendar it had was good for it's time. emails obviously. It made life a lot easier, especially considering the amount of alcohol and cannabis i consume(d).
I would go so far to say that I would not have been nearly successful in school without it. That's for you Interpol. My time is valuable now, and it was even moreso in undergrad... that is what is going to make or break the rest of your kid's life at that point. Don't be a dick. The 15 minutes I'm wasting to walk back to my apartment to send an email, or Waiting in line to use a computer on campus, can better be used doing other more important things. Ok buy separate devices? I'll spend $50 for a pocket recorder, $100 for an ipod, $100 for a calculator, wait...wait...are you insane?
I'm trying to put my day together tomorrow, wednesday, and friday in my head, off the cuff, as if somebody had just asked me. A girl perhaps, responding to when I might be free to hang out! Oh my god! What the hell would I do without my smartphone?
Enter the droid X. I have more need now for a smartphone than I did while I was in school, but I can definitely see the benefit of not only having a phone that can run many apps, but having a phone where if you find you need an tool app that doesn't exist, you can write it. If I've got free time I fire up droidemulite and play some roms.
A chick magnet? How about a geek chick magnet? When you're playing some old school snes games and a cute little girl spies you with your tethered nintendo wiimote playing Chrono Trigger and she gasps and says "OMG that was my favorite game! Old School!" Score. and true story.
I'm really digging not having to lug around my laptop every single place, it pretty much sits in my trunk where now I can just bring my X and it suffices the majority of the time. GPS and Ipod are gathering dust. Device consolidation is the wave of the future. Ride it man, ride it.
I don't know about that. I majored in Electrical Engineering (graduated recently), something I wouldn't call "easy" at one of the best engineering schools. If you go to decent enough school, you will have wifi in nearly all places, also computers available in almost every building. And literally everyone has a laptop.All of you college students saying a smartphone/laptop is not needed must have easy majors. I'm not being a dick, I'm just jealous. In my undergrad years I was rocking a blackberry. voice recorder was used constantly, the calendar it had was good for it's time. emails obviously. It made life a lot easier, especially considering the amount of alcohol and cannabis i consume(d).
I would go so far to say that I would not have been nearly successful in school without it. That's for you Interpol. My time is valuable now, and it was even moreso in undergrad... that is what is going to make or break the rest of your kid's life at that point. Don't be a dick. The 15 minutes I'm wasting to walk back to my apartment to send an email, or Waiting in line to use a computer on campus, can better be used doing other more important things. Ok buy separate devices? I'll spend $50 for a pocket recorder, $100 for an ipod, $100 for a calculator, wait...wait...are you insane?
I'm trying to put my day together tomorrow, wednesday, and friday in my head, off the cuff, as if somebody had just asked me. A girl perhaps, responding to when I might be free to hang out! Oh my god! What the hell would I do without my smartphone?
Enter the droid X. I have more need now for a smartphone than I did while I was in school, but I can definitely see the benefit of not only having a phone that can run many apps, but having a phone where if you find you need an tool app that doesn't exist, you can write it. If I've got free time I fire up droidemulite and play some roms.
A chick magnet? How about a geek chick magnet? When you're playing some old school snes games and a cute little girl spies you with your tethered nintendo wiimote playing Chrono Trigger and she gasps and says "OMG that was my favorite game! Old School!" Score. and true story.
I'm really digging not having to lug around my laptop every single place, it pretty much sits in my trunk where now I can just bring my X and it suffices the majority of the time. GPS and Ipod are gathering dust. Device consolidation is the wave of the future. Ride it man, ride it.
I don't know about that. I majored in Electrical Engineering (graduated recently), something I wouldn't call "easy" at one of the best engineering schools. If you go to decent enough school, you will have wifi in nearly all places, also computers available in almost every building. And literally everyone has a laptop.
I am just curious.My university was packed, and I mean Packed. Maybe it was just my study hours, but there wasn't much I could do about it. If you didn't *need* it then that's cool. I'm not going to get into a penis measuring contest about whose major is harder, but honestly to be as efficient as I am (getting shit done day to day) I would have to lug around a laptop and 3-4 other devices. That's just not an option for me, and from what it sounds like, it's not an option anymore for a lot of people.
TL;DR: Convenience and efficiency costs money, but far less money than my time is worth.
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