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Can someone tell me why we can't get a 32 or 64 gig phone?General

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  1. bucsfan

    bucsfan Well-Known Member

    Im really confused to why this has never happened my daughter has a 64 gig iphone 5 it seems simple enough?

  2. Rxpert83

    Rxpert83 Dr. Feelgood Moderator

    Because we have SD cards. Why pay $100 more for 16GB internal storage when you can pick up a 16GBmicro SD card for $10
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  3. cary328is

    cary328is Well-Known Member

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  4. bucsfan

    bucsfan Well-Known Member

    thats not a reason tho the phone companies are not looking out for our best interest there has to be a reason
  5. bucsfan

    bucsfan Well-Known Member

    the phones are made with 64 gig storage but we dont get them
  6. Rxpert83

    Rxpert83 Dr. Feelgood Moderator

    Paying 10x as much to have the storage in the phone rather than being able to take of put and transfer it to your computer or your next phone isn't in your best interest :D;)

    The carriers don't stock it because people are smart enough not to buy them.
  7. ThirstyDog

    ThirstyDog Well-Known Member

    I don't mind paying extra for as much internal storage as I can get.
    If they have 32GB, I'll take one, If they have 64GB, I'll take one.
    If they have 16GB, I don't want one. :(
  8. Rxpert83

    Rxpert83 Dr. Feelgood Moderator

    But why the reliance on internal?
  9. bucsfan

    bucsfan Well-Known Member

    i understand we can buy buy micro sd cards i have a 64 gig myself it still dose not explain why they dont sell them to us because we will buy them only reason i can think of is some kind of deal was made so we would go buy these micro sd cards but that just dont make sense to me
  10. KupKrazy

    KupKrazy Well-Known Member

    I'm sure that it's because the studies they've done show that the 64GB versions would not be popular enough to justify the cost of keeping an inventory of them. Space in the warehouses and store shelves means less of another product that they could sell. The difference with the iPhone is that there is no competition for that whereas for Samsung, you have HTC and other companies that compete for the space.
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  11. Rxpert83

    Rxpert83 Dr. Feelgood Moderator

    Correct. They're typically offered overseas, but in the US carriers don't carry them because there's not enough perceived demand
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  12. lafester

    lafester Well-Known Member

    With everything else getting maxed out I bet we start seeing 128gb internal memory soon.
    We don't need any more resolution or cores at this point in the game.
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  13. Mr. Ed

    Mr. Ed Well-Known Member


    since release I think I have sold maybe 2 64 gb iphone 5's

    In the big picture most people don't need that much storage.

    plus there is the whole cloud storage debate
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  14. Beards

    Beards Well-Known Member

    One reason why internal storage is premium is due to Apps downloaded.

    It is not the App itself that is the issue but the associated additional data downloaded after the App installation that consumes internal storage space.

    Many games and quite a few productivity program's require a user to download an additional 1GB or 2GB+ of additional data files just to use the App.

    In the past it was not an issue because we were allowed to use apps such as Apps2SD to transfer Apps and their associated data files to an external storage card. However, with Jelly Bean and so on Google removed the option of using external storage as the place for Apps and associated data files to be stored.
    Simple reason Google do not like you using external storage.

    Now, back to the problem of app installation using the internal storage:-
    If you have a device with 16GB such as the S4, once you switch on for the very first time you will immediately notice that 16GB has been reduced to 10GB.
    This is as you know due to the installation of Android OS, Carrier specific Apps and any additional branded OS made by the manufacturer.

    Okay, so with only 10GB remaining say you install one game that requires a total of 1.8GB storage..... Now you have 8.2GB remaining.
    Do this a few time and it will not be long before you find all your internal storage has been used.

    Step this problem further:-
    These figures are based on today's downloads.
    The thing is as I am sure you are aware, developers will continue to enhance their Apps and Games which in turn requires additional storage. As such a single App and Data today may be 1.8GB but in say 6 months it could be 2GB.
    This seriously reduces the longevity of the 16GB device.

    So, do I think 16GB is enough especially on what is deemed a Flagship phone.... Not a chance.

    With Apps and Games only being allowed to be stored on the internal storage space and these same Apps and Games ever increasing in size, the only answer is to have larger internal storage space.
    16GB is clearly not enough.
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  15. Beards

    Beards Well-Known Member

    Price is probably the reason, not the additional storage itself.
    Yes, most people may not need it but read my comments above on App installation with additional Data to see small 16GB storage is not enough.

    Cloud storage can not be relied upon.
    1. Costs are still too expensive for continued Cloud usage.
    2. Coverage is still not good enough. It is patchy and temperamental at best.
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  16. Gomjaba

    Gomjaba Well-Known Member

    The 64GB is almost $300 more here in the UK compared to the 16GB model .. Whilst I would prefer more internal storage (don't even know why lol), I don't prefer it $300 worth :)
  17. Frisco

    Frisco =Luceat Lux Vestra= VIP Member

    Android users like to root and get apps to sd and all that. Big removable sd cards are there for us as a choice and the phone can be an inexpensive one or the latest and greatest.

    With iPhone you just pay the big bucks for the internal storage or not. That's their market. It works for them, at least some of them for a while; we see many iPhone refugees here. ;)
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  18. Shocky

    Shocky On Probation

    It's just an easy way for them to milk money from us, HTC and Samsung advertise 64GB versions but most countries only get the 16GB/32GB versions.
  19. Beards

    Beards Well-Known Member

    Agree, charging over the odds prices should not happen, especially when they do not want us to use external memory.

    The thing is though not everyone will want to root their device. That and the fact the likes of Samsung do not like owners rooting their devices.
    As such given the situation of storage space manufacturers should at the very least provide larger storage models at realistic prices.

    I agree, it is shocking the amount they ask but are not prepared to meet us half way.

    Finally ~ At least Apple gives you choice albeit at a heavy cost but the choice is there.
    If you wish to place an order for a larger storage model you either purchase one Directly from Apple Online or through one of their Apple Stores.
    Android manufacturers do not have this. All sales are done either through Carriers or Wholesalers who do not like to stock due to high costs.
    The only way to guarantee a larger storage model is for the likes of Samsung to go the same route as Apple in having direct Online and High Street purchase.

    Again if Google wishes us to use internal storage and cloud services they should at the very least look at manufacturers providing cheaper storage and reliable/cheaper cloud cover.
  20. rkkeller

    rkkeller Well-Known Member

    I would disagree. 16gb and an SD card for music/video/picture/document storage is fine for the majority of people. Your 10gb estimate can literally hold hundreds of normal apps like FB, Twitter, GVoice, Weather, camera apps, radios and games like Words with Friends, Angry Birds, etc.... with no problem.

    There are actually very few apps that require more than 1 gig of space when compared to the total number of apps available so it's not like this is the norm.

    Do not buy it if it's not what you want but I and a lot of others are fine with it.
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  21. rushmore

    rushmore Well-Known Member

    Considering the app size trend for games and other apps, why would Samsung not have the 32GB version as part of the launch mix (and a heavier mix than the S3 launch)? Per Verizon and Best Buy, the S3 sold far more 32GB versions than expected and had supply issues as a result for several weeks in many channels.

    Why not learn from this and have all your ducks in a row? Seems the theory may be correct that Samsung is pushing out earlier than planned to offset the One and the impending iPhone 5s and trying to keep clean pushing the 16GB first, since still will be the majority of the mix.


    Even the Best Buy preorder is color only, with no size option. Unlike the S3 that was color and size for preorder from Best Buy. I got mine at launch from there through preorder- ordered the 32GB blue the first day they started offering preorders.
  22. iTzKPanda

    iTzKPanda AF's resident panda

    Maybe because of the microSD card slot. Just a guess since neither the One or the iPhone 5s(or 6?) will have/has a microSD card slot.
    And, a 16GB microSD card would be cheaper than paying an extra $50 for the 32GB variant.
  23. rushmore

    rushmore Well-Known Member

    The S3 has one as well and the 32GB sold about twice as many as VZW expected. SD cards do not help much for app installs. The internal space is mapped for the app security core and the data install. SD card does not help and is mostly worthless for apps, but important for media storage.

    With app sizes growing, 16GB is quickly becoming like 8GB devices from previous years.


    Still, the question is where is the 32GB version? Samsung is offering them, but no sign, unlike for the S3 launch. Answer seems to be Samsung has made a tactical decision to launch earlier than planned.
  24. rushmore

    rushmore Well-Known Member

    Wonder when something beyond 16GB versions will be sold......
  25. EarlyMon

    EarlyMon The PearlyMon Moderator

    ^I agree.

    And many apps can't cope with the idea that many phones now have internal storage that per Google (yeah - I know) takes the place of an sd card, and will only write there, even if you have an sd card. So even though adding storage via an sd card is cheaper, it's not the option that serves everyone.

    So based on that - where are the 32 and 64 GB versions? How soon will they come?

    I don't know who most people are or what they want.

    I do know that many apps will use internal storage no matter what sd card you have plugged in, so I agree with you - larger is an important option.

    Samsung agrees with us - that's why they announced larger storage versions.

    Can't say I'm liking the price differences I'm reading about though.

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