You need to get your facts correct.
Well since we're dealing with "facts"...
Have you actually owned one? Im guessing not and that you're just basing your info on tittle tattle you've read on forums.
Yes I own one.
Rhysd2 said:
Firstly, its not "outer and inner glass". its the glass and the lcd screen.
It may be news to you but the LCD screen is made of glass too. Very thin, rigid and fragile glass. And the LCD panel rests directly against the outer (Gorilla) glass with no buffer zone - as the corner pressure test proves. Even Engadget US' glowing review acknowledges that potential flaw:
That said, we did have a couple concerns; first, the plastic caps that sit on either side of the display had a tendency to creak when pressed, particularly the top one where the earpiece and front-facing camera are located. That's not a big deal since you don't really have a valid reason to be pressing too hard on these parts of the phone, but a bigger concern lies with the display itself: pressing on it with anything more than a light touch causes some LCD rippling around the edges, a sign that it's taking more stress than it should.
Rhysd2 said:
when people have had issues its the lcd screen itself thats shattered.
No. People have had both inner glass (LCD panel) and outer (Gorilla) glass shatter - independently and together.
Rhysd2 said:
Secondly Pauls was just defective. every handset has defective ones.... ...bigger devices maybe more susceptible to that because of the increased stress on the larger screen.
So the "fact" is that problems with some Streaks
do exist, and by your own admission the Streak is more susceptible to failure due to its design.
Which is at odds with your original claim that there weren't any problems at all (and we haven't even started on software issues) - a totally unrealistic view which was the sole point of my challenge.
Neither can you put blame for the failures solely at the door of clumsy users or the screen size - I've had plenty of 5"+ screen devices before (HTC Advantage, N770/800/810 etc) and none were as fragile as this.
The other fact is, that Dell could have made protection better, and the device much more robust, by providing better shock absorption (e.g. by not pressing the LCD hard up against the outer glass so that any stress or impact is transferred directly to the weakest part).
Rhysd2 said:
Bottom line you just seem here to slag the thing off so I wouldn't bother listening to him guys..
As a potential buyer I would rather listen to a realistic view than to someone who claims a device does not have any problems or tries to brush obvious design flaws under the carpet (we get enough of that from so-called 'independent' reviews). Only then could I decide whether the device really suited my needs or avoid an expensive mistake.
Rhysd2 said:
.. none of us have experienced the issues that hes claiming are so wide spread.
Read the opening sentence in my last post.
I don't deny that those having problems may be in the minority.
Rhysd2 said:
anyway thats the last Im going to say on the subject as you obviously are dead set on believing that theres some mortal issues with the handset.
No, fact is I love my Streak. But I bought it for what it was intended - a data-centric tablet which can occasionally be used for voice. I think it only fair to point out that it is not built, nor designed, to take the daily
rigueur of a normal, go anywhere, mobile phone (even from a relatively careful user). Unlike someone who claims there are no problems and dismisses genuine user experiences as forum "tittle tattle". I see nothing wrong with making the potential pitfalls clear so that anyone planning to use it as such is aware of the shortcomings and so goes into the deal with their eyes open.
I hope you and your friends' Streaks survive as much as I do my own - but bear in mind to some extent we're still running alpha hardware (as in pre-US beta), and if you buy on O2 contract, 2 years is a long time for any mobile device to survive scathe-free.
And to anyone else reading this - let's get this back into perspective - for all its flaws the Streak is still an amazing device; just treat it with care and get it insured!