Our EVO selected as as one of the 10 "devices that will fail in 2010"

[damewolf13]

I dont get why all you guys think the EVO is gods gift to man. I actually agree with the article. We already know better android phones have been announced and are coming in the next few months. Meaning the EVO will be old news even before this year is over. It was expected by the way the mobile devices are advancing these days. So anyone who doesnt like the EVO, is an apple fanboy? This phone isnt perfect, neither is the Iphone. But come on at least get your heads out from your asses.

I think people who think that the evo can not compete with the iphone in any area are the ones with their heads up their a$$.

 

[BenChase7]

the make some valid points. if i wasn't in a 4g market, i wouldn't be on an evo and once the verizon 4g is up and running, forget about it.

The EVO dosent need 4G to be a great phone. Its a great phone in and of itself. on top of that, Sprints network is great and they have the lowest priced and best plans of any carrier.

 

[DarkNeo]

I think people who think that the evo can not compete with the iphone in any area are the ones with their heads up their a$$.

I would say the Iphone has really made the public even dumber when it comes to phones. The iphone is a dumb persons phone, easy to use of course. And we know how much Apple locks down the phone. The general public now sees it as the standard and wants every phone to be that easy.

 

[novarider]

It has more to do with the fact that he said the iPhone beats the evo in every way more than everyone thinks the evo is so great. The ONLY thong that's better on the iPhone is the retina display but I still like the evo because the screen is bigger.

 

[DarkNeo]

It has more to do with the fact that he said the iPhone beats the evo in every way more than everyone thinks the evo is so great. The ONLY thong that's better on the iPhone is the retina display but I still like the evo because the screen is bigger.

Yeah but im sure this is the view of the "Dumb Comsumer" now. To them its Iphone > every other phone.

 

[Scooterman1]

10 More Smartphones That Will Fade Away Before 2011 - Mobile and Wireless from eWeek

Sprint Evo 4G
This might be a controversial choice, given how much attention the device is getting right now, but by the end of the year, Sprint's Evo 4G, the world's first smartphone to run on the company's super-high-speed wireless network, will fail. The problem with the Evo 4G is that it runs on Sprint's network—a service that isn't used by many. Plus, the device can't match the iPhone on any level. Even worse, Sprint's 4G network is available in very few places, so most consumers will see little value in buying it. The Evo 4G sounds great as a concept, but it lacks broader market appeal.

I'm surprised at the Apple Fanboys coming over to this Forum. I guess they have an interest in the iPhones competition. And Sprint probably has them nervous. If you are on top, there's only one way to go.

I switched from 3 iPhones to 3 EVO's. My daughter may be going to Verizon because of AT&T's high prices and the Sprint voice isn't that good in the boondocks where she is living.

Since I switched, even the 3G is faster that AT&T's 1500 kb/s.
And the 1-3 dropped calls every day my wife was headed home from work hasn't happened once in the 2 weeks I've had the EVO's.

So, Fanboys (and it's obvious from your bashing and etc., where you came from). I saw it on MacRumors with 2/3 of the posts on there. It's a shame that people that think they are intelligent, rule that myth out with their rudeness. That's something that I rarely see on this Forum. It's so nice to be here after the last.
So, I'm sure you've seen this before... but:

And, last but not least, I offer my sincere apologies if this is not the case.

P.S. - I went over there. That's hilarious... the 1st phone out of 10 to disappear in 2010 is an iPhone 3G 32GB. LOL Who's paying the author of that Article?

 

[Deleted User]

EVO is doing great as far as I can see. I just converted another person over from the iPhone just this afternoon. He was about to renew his old 3G for a 4G but played with my EVO for an hour and said he'd changed his mind and was off to buy one.

That's when I told him the phone is so popular he might not actually be able to find one quite so easily, and he's bummed out now.. but he will try, and wait if he has to.

That's 3 iPhone to EVO and 1 BB to EVO conversion performed by me alone. People just love this device, love to play with it, and often walk away wanting one of their own.

 

[meyerweb]

the make some valid points. if i wasn't in a 4g market, i wouldn't be on an evo and once the verizon 4g is up and running, forget about it.

I have it in a mostly 3G market, and I'm extremely pleased with it. 4G or not, it's way superior to an iPhone for my needs. And I won't pay nearly double for Verizon's 4G network, if they ever get around to building it out.

 

[meyerweb]

It has more to do with the fact that he said the iPhone beats the evo in every way more than everyone thinks the evo is so great. The ONLY thong that's better on the iPhone is the retina display but I still like the evo because the screen is bigger.

I've compared the two screens side by side, and I don't consider the retina display superior at all. Any minor advantage offered by the higher res is more than offset by the smaller size. Icon text, email text, videos, you name it, it's easier to read / see on the Evo.

 

[vagerson]

how is going to fade before 2011? its still selling out in stores!!!

 

[YouNoAsian]

the make some valid points. if i wasn't in a 4g market, i wouldn't be on an evo and once the verizon 4g is up and running, forget about it.

Are you serious...lol. I live in the San Francisco bay area(A non 4G area) and I love my EVO. I have never had a problem with 3g speeds as I have a broadband connection at home that will always be faster that anything I can get on a phone. Once 4G comes that is just icing on the cake.

This article is ridiculous the only fail device of the year is the Kin as long as people buy and enjoy their phones.

PS. The Iphone4 FAILED(at being purchased by me)...lol

 

[slschmidt76]

That is such total CRAP!!! I have been with Sprint for years and would not go over to ATT for the Iphone for anything. I think in a couple years the Android market is going to surpass that of Apple. My opinion only. Att has the shittiest network. I have tried out a few Iphones and never likes them. Your stuck with Apples software only and can't customize anything on it. Again my opinion only. As far as I'm concerned the Evo is the best phone on the market at this time. Sure...new phones come out every other month that's just the way it works. I've had my Evo since launch day and was one of the lucky ones with zero problems but I still play with my phone for hours every day and know I still haven't touched the tip of the iceberg on all the things it can do. All Hail EVO!!!!

 

[RoboMonkey]

I'd love to see EVO 2.0 by xMas!

2ghz, SuperDuperAmoled, 64gb RAM, 60mhz refresh rate, SuperGPU, 3d video calling, xRay Cam, and Katchup dispenser!

 

[htmlcssguru]

For any single phone to survive it has to continually be developed and resurrected as a new version (i.e. EVO 2, EVO 3, etc.) just like the iPhone has done. The 'EVO' by itself will eventually disappear because newer phones will be developed and people will abandon it for newer technology. But, if EVO 2, 3, 4 ,etc is the plan then the EVO will live on.

This guy's opinion that it will 'fail' is predicated on the advancement of 4G networks. Funny he'd say that when AT&T and the other carriers have all announced their plans for expanding into 4G.

 

[Deleted User]

10 More Smartphones That Will Fade Away Before 2011 - Mobile and Wireless from eWeek

Sprint Evo 4G
This might be a controversial choice, given how much attention the device is getting right now, but by the end of the year, Sprint's Evo 4G, the world's first smartphone to run on the company's super-high-speed wireless network, will fail. The problem with the Evo 4G is that it runs on Sprint's network

 

[MrX8503]

I just read what the author said about the EVO. It doesn't make any sense, 4G isn't it's only feature. The EVO was the first to do many things.

Overall I still don't get what he's trying to get at.

 

[BetterMost]

What a stupid article. Like the IPhone4 the Evo will get replaced next summer and indeed fade into the sunset like all phones do. If they didn't keep making new and improved handsets the makers would go out of business. Its all a big racket.

 

[RiverOfIce]

You got a few years to wait for that 4g network?

4g? Really depends.

For true 4g, lte-a might never have it. Wimax-e at 2.5ghz stands a chance, though slight one.

Why may you ask?

Well that is easy.

For "true" 4g speeds you need a min of 100mbs. 100mbs is about 10 tens quicker then the maximal radiation produced by any mobile phone is allowed.

Now radio transmission is pretty mature, so the chances of a major break through reducing the amount of radiation down to fcc guide lines will never happen, not in the foreseeable 5-10 years.

It does not mean it can not happen, for cars, buildings, or hotspots, but for phones, no. Just not really that possible using current technology.

Ignoring that. Because technology always proves everyone wrong.

A 30mbs connection will suck down a laptops battery from full charge to zero in about 32 mins, done it myself.

So in order to get a 30mbs connection to a laptop you need a huge transformation in battery technology. Once again, maybe in 5-10 years, but not in the foreseeable future.

Ignoring that. Because once again, it is technology.

lte has the brilliant use of of the 800mhz spectrum. Really good for long distances. But really sucks for high density build outs.

I am going to use some geek here, pardon me.

When your "3g" phone makes a data transition, it uses frequency. This frequency is measured in hertz. For example the 800mhz frequency has 20mhz for up and 20 mhz for down with lte. (trying to keep it simple)

Your phone can use as much as 20mhz, but if it does, there would be no more for anyone else to use, (ignoring the complex nature of signal modulation).

So if let say that a 20mhz radio uses all the bandwidth from one tower, for one person, then you would have to half that to 10mhz per tower for 2 people, 5mhz for 4 people, 1.4mhz for 8 people.

So 8 people using 1.4mhz would max out the towers,(with signal modulation that would be more like a factor of 10, but trying to keep it simple).

Now with 20mhz, speeds of 40-50mbps is possible. But with only 10mhz speeds of 20-25 are possible, with 5 mhz 10mpbs, 1.5 5mbps, and so one.

So to get around this, the brilliant people designing radios add more radios. Just brilliant. It is called MIMO.

MIMO exist for both lte and wimax. And here is how it works. A mimo has more then one atenna, with the evo it is 4 antennas. 2 going in, 2 going out (going to ignore the fact that one of the out radios is disabled by firmware).

The 2 antennas can pull data from two different towers. For example. Tower 1 has 1.4mhz of bandwidth available offering 5.4mbps of speed. Tower 2 has a 5mhz of bandwidth open, offering 10 mbps of speed, the connection now has 12mbps of speed, (evo is capped at 10mhz per radio and 10mbps).

Mimo makes it possible for 1, 2, 3, 4, + towers to feed data to one radio. Which means really fast connection.

But this is another problem with lte. You see at 2.5ghz, you can really stack the towers really close together, because the wave lengths are soo small. But at 800mhz, the signal wave is really long, which means the closer you get them together, the more interference you will have. Which will slow down your connection.

Now most wimax station can be placed with in feet of each other, lte have to keep a distance of about 4 miles, with out directing the antenna and about a 1mile with.

So mimo has very limited ability with lte at 800mhz.

This is just a function of the frequency. Now this will not stop them from using the 1900mhz to fill in the gaps, but connections will always be slower then wimax. Just because of tower density.

The last problem with lte is that it has a very limited bandwidth. All totaled you get about 80mhz of bandwidth, once you remove the ability to make calls, texts, and 3g service. All that will have to go to lte-a.

Wimax has about 160mhz of bandwidth, with out touching voice or texting.

It is in the position to pick up more.

So long story short, 4g will not come to mobiles for at least 5-10 years, if at all. 4g as it is being used is a marketing term. Nothing more.

As the the op, all phones (non apple) become obsolete in a few months.

Apple releases every year, htc releases every 2-3 months.

We already know the epic is coming and so is aava. The point of worrying about if your phone is going to be replaced in 1 year is pointless.

Only if you are an apple fan would you care. Then you are stuck with 1year old tech, regardless of what you do.

Besides that the article is more or less true. HTC hero was a great phone, made it 6 months before the EVO. Sammy moment, had its moment, and is now replaced by galaxy.

But iphone 4 will be a iphone 4 for the next year. Regardless of how good, bad, or wanted (dont want) it will be.

 

[DarkNeo]

 

[Barats]

I dont get why all you guys think the EVO is gods gift to man. I actually agree with the article. We already know better android phones have been announced and are coming in the next few months. Meaning the EVO will be old news even before this year is over. It was expected by the way the mobile device market is advancing these days. So anyone who doesnt like the EVO, is an apple fanboy? This phone isnt perfect, neither is the Iphone. But come on at least get your heads out from your asses.

And then those phones will be surpassed by other phones. It's the way technology works.

 

[skpd]

"Plus, the device (EVO 4G) can't match the iPhone on any level"

lol

 

[RickInHouston]

I wonder what phones he thinks WILL be around in one year? He seems to not like any of the new ones. To not put "the 4" on that list is just wrong. When it's replacement debuts June 2011, the Apple masses will drop that brick in droves!

 

[Complex757]

I dont get why all you guys think the EVO is gods gift to man. I actually agree with the article. We already know better android phones have been announced and are coming in the next few months. Meaning the EVO will be old news even before this year is over. It was expected by the way the mobile device market is advancing these days. So anyone who doesnt like the EVO, is an apple fanboy? This phone isnt perfect, neither is the Iphone. But come on at least get your heads out from your asses.

Did you actually read the article before you decided to play Superman?

The writer virtually proclaimed the iPhone the perfect phone "the device can't match the iPhone on any level." Besides the Storm 2, no other phone was compared to another phone. So it's quite ironic your last sentence talks about getting your heads out of your asses, when you either bother to read or couldn't comprehend a couple of sentences.

 

[DarkNeo]

Did you actually read the article before you decided to play Superman?

The writer virtually proclaimed the iPhone the perfect phone "the device can't match the iPhone on any level." Besides the Storm 2, no other phone was compared to another phone. So it's quite ironic your last sentence talks about getting your heads out of your asses, when you either bother to read or couldn't comprehend a couple of sentences.

Uhhhhhh I did read it

. If you "read" my other posts you will see that it comes from what the general public perceive and want in a phone. Point is the Iphone just works, its easy enough for a grandpa to use. People got used to having an easy to use phone. Its what the people want and its what every phone will be compared to.

 

[BenChase7]

considering its still sold out over a month after it was released... i think its anything but a fail.