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Motorola keep insisiting they dont know any release dates, which is dissapointing to say the least. You'd think with the mess iphone are in with the i4, Moto,HTC et all would be jumping in with 2.2 ASAP. Whats up with them!!

ps. Its only grim up north if you'r in the south! Go Leeds!!

They are probably indeed jumping to 2.2.
But like said above, they probably do this for usage on newer, upcoming models.
 
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Really? Usually a company says Q1, Q2 etc and you expect it to be the last day, at 2359. Do HTC owners really have such faith that HTC may say a date and then aim to beat it, by as much as 2 months?

Still, that unconfirmed comment (from an unnamed spokesperson) said Q3, so perhaps it will be BEFORE Christmas but I am constantly amazed by the optimism and blind faith. I still say that HTC will release another device or two with FroYo, before 2.2 comes to other devices. They'll run Sense and the other apps fine, while people will have their cooked ROMs that will also work fine - and yet HTC will still say they had to make sure everything worked properly...

By then, a good hardcore number of early adopters will have sold the current models and upgraded - which is exactly what HTC wants you all to do!

No, if a company says December it means that by October they are ready...unless some unexpected event...trust me...I know a lot more about companies then most here.
 
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I am aware of how things are planned, but you know it doesn't work like that in reality. If HTC could guarantee it was done in October, they'd announce October and release to the exact day.

I don't think there's any reason it will take until October, let alone December, anyway - I think they could get it ready MUCH quicker than that. In fact, I'm still certain they have got it working already and will ship a new device with it before 2.2 comes to the Desire etc.
 
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No, if a company says December it means that by October they are ready...unless some unexpected event...trust me...I know a lot more about companies then most here.


Haha, from my time working in software houses, it actually goes sales and or marketing give release date which is far more what the customer wants to hear than having any realistic appraisal of the time required to code and qa and bug fix. Development then work frantically to meet such a time.

Having said that, I think the 'leaked' froyo with sense Rom is a stealth bit of outsourced qa
, and that its release is fairly close
 
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If the Dev from xda can get 2.2 working with sense (with very few bug) in little under a month, then how come the Devs at HTC cant get it working until the latter end of the year? which makes me believe what jonmorris says, they have already got sense and 2.2 working. GIVE IT TO US NOWWWWWWW!! :)

Several reasons. While it maybe (partially) true that 2.2 on Desire and other models out now is not their top priority as they want people to buy new devices - the real reason it's not out NOW is that last 10% of work which takes the most time.

First of all, it doesn't take so long to make a buggy software. Usually it works very well on most handsets. Most. This is where xda comes in, makes a hack and releases it with the line "we're not responsible for the damage this may cause, use it at your own risk". HTC doesn't have this luxury. If they release a software and it bricks someone's phone, forces him to loose his data, they may get sued, their reputation will be shaken, people will find them unreliable - it's just something they cannot allow. And the fact that it works on one handset doesn't mean it will work on all. Even with the same phone model - perhaps it will work on my Desire but it will totally trash yours. Why? Maybe you have different software than me and some of it is causing bad things for the new update. Maybe its just bad luck. Maybe you have some different localization setting. Who knows? But until they test all possibilities, until they fix all the bugs and polish it - they won't release it. And even when they do - bugs still happen. Remember what happened with a recent official EVO update? It's a long and complex QA process. And with phones it is (for some legal reason) it is even more complicated to get things approved with all the regulatory bodies and local laws. Then there is that whole carrier thing. It's amazing that they'll get to release it this year, when you think about it.

I came here from the N900 mobile device. There was a similar case there, the announced PR1.2 update that was supposed to fix a lot of things and make a lot of things better. So we waited, and it was 'due shortly, a few weeks away'. Then, Nokia found a massive bug and sent it back to the developers. They had to fix it and it dragged on for months. People were so restless, the Maemo forum became a big "we want the update" whining ground. Then, suddenly, a "leaked" version showed up. People installed it and found it fully functional. The "why are they making us wait" talk became louder then ever with people demanding the 'official' update (sounds familiar?). Until it became apparent that the 'leaked' version - while it worked well with most devices - completely screwed others. The worst thing, they couldn't even downgrade. Then, finally, one day - official PR1.2 came out. And guess what, it still wasn't perfect. In reality, it would probably take twice the time to make it completely bug free.

So, I'm not saying that we shouldn't push HTC to get us Froyo as soon as possible. And I'm not saying that they couldn't do it faster (but remember this is not the only thing they do). But I am saying: be patient - they are making a new Froyo Sense and porting 2.2 to several devices. It's a long and complicated process. XDA can do it sooner because they cannot be held responsible for the potential (even if unlikely) damage. And they can say "hey, it's fully functional but the Bluetooth or Camera or something doesn't work". If HTC did it, we would have gazillion topics here claiming that "HTC sucks" and that the iPhone is better.

So, if you're adventurous and impatient - get the leaked ROM and enjoy Froyo now. It's really nice to have this option and I might take it if my patience eventually runs out. But as long as 2.2 is coming out by xmass - I'm not blaming HTC for laziness.
 
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One of the main reasons I went for an android phone was custom roms anyway. Havent put froyo on this one yet but will do very shortly - probably once the modaco froyo rom matures a little more.

HTC have to iron out as many bugs as they can and this can take time. Someone making a custom rom and posting it can just put "disclaimer - dont blame me if this messes up your phone". HTC really dont have that option so of course their rom will take some time to appear. Who knows, the final HTC ROM might have another couple of treats in it, perhaps the rumoured divx support will surface. If the rom comes out and is rock solid stability wise then it'll be worth the wait.
 
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Yesterday I was told there was an update on my device. I am currently on 1.15.405.4 on my unbranded desire which has a tmob sim in it. Does anyone know what this update is?
Yes, that's the software build, not the OS which this thread is about....

Go ahead and update, it's OK. It goes to 1.21.405.2. I did it about two weeks ago with no problem. But be aware it resets your home page layout and some settings, but doesn't destroy your personal data e.g. address book.

BTW, make sure your battery is good and not low.... takes about ten minutes max. My Desire does seem faster after doing it....

Unh.
 
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A big disappointment for me having got an Android phone was the problem with hands free dialling over Bluetooth, much inferior to my old Sony Ericsson. Can anyone who has got 2.2 confirm if this now works properly i.e. one press voice dialling from BT device? Might consider rooting if it does. Ta

Yes, the official 2.2 (on the N1) has BT smart dialing. The lady's voice is annoying as hell. It's basically the voice search feature on 2.1 over BT if you're wondering how it works.
 
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Anyone excited at the prospect of a super sized HTC Desire/Legend hybrid?

4.3 inch WVGA Touch Screen
8 Megapixel Camera
1 GHZ Qualcomm Processor
Android 2.2 OS :(
HD 720p Video Capture
Xvid Video Playback
SRS Surround Sound
Automatic Face Tracking
Adobe Flash 10.1 Support
4GB Internal Memory (up to 32GB)
E-book Reader Feature
Unibody Aluminium Design

This is coming out in October. Long before my Desire will be updated.
 
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Anyone excited at the prospect of a super sized HTC Desire/Legend hybrid?

4.3 inch WVGA Touch Screen
8 Megapixel Camera
1 GHZ Qualcomm Processor
Android 2.2 OS :(
HD 720p Video Capture
Xvid Video Playback
SRS Surround Sound
Automatic Face Tracking
Adobe Flash 10.1 Support
4GB Internal Memory (up to 32GB)
E-book Reader Feature
Unibody Aluminium Design

This is coming out in October. Long before my Desire will be updated.

And your source for this info would be????
 
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