***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**

[UBRocked]

@TeamAndIRC ✔ jcase
its omap not exynos, no one claiming exynos has a credible source.

Seems like it will be omap like said in some of the leaks and not exynos.

Isn't everything a rumor right now? Unless I'm mistaken, the leaks that claim it has the OMAP aren't any more credible than the ones that claim it has the Exynos. If I've missed something credible, then I'm wrong, but I don't think we've seen anything solid and credible, other than rumor, backing either processor.

Hmm... maybe jcase should take a look at history. Lots of "credible" sources can be dead wrong.

http://androidforums.com/htc-thunde...aka-incredible-hd-htc-beyond-coming-soon.html

Not hating... just a reality check. This is a rumor mill and these things will ALWAYS be that way. I "trust" very few people because even good info can change quickly.

 

[cereal killer]

Isn't everything a rumor right now? Unless I'm mistaken, the leaks that claim it has the OMAP aren't any more credible than the ones that claim it has the Exynos. If I've missed something credible, then I'm wrong, but I don't think we've seen anything solid and credible, other than rumor, backing either processor.

Yes and this will go on until the device is announced

People that have no clue are only making educated guesses which still means nothing. Lee or GSM Arena are the specs to expect. Pick a side and wait I say. All this other stuff is just noise....

 

[cereal killer]

Hmm... maybe jcase should take a look at history. Lots of "credible" sources can be dead wrong.

http://androidforums.com/htc-thunde...aka-incredible-hd-htc-beyond-coming-soon.html

Not hating... just a reality check. This is a rumor mill and these things will ALWAYS be that way. I "trust" very few people because even good info can change quickly.

You hit the nail on the head. Like I said in my post above all this stuff is just noise. Ignore it.

No offense to the usual suspects who leak things via twitter but I don't put much stock in their info. They are wrong more than they are right......

 

[xtop]

Nothing personal - that's just a bold statement, referencing a phone not out yet vs. a processor that isn't in anyone's hands on a phone yet.

Think that Apple's policy of increasing OS size (features) while keeping clock rates low to increase battery life might have some bearing on that?

Or the frame update difference between about a megapixel per frame (1280x720=921,600) vs about 2/3 of that (960x640=614,400)?

I think it's way too soon for anyone who knows what they're talking about to make that claim.

That said, maybe I'm wrong, I often am.

normally i'd agree with you, but we pretty much know the general performance of everything out there if you know where to look. and the 543mp2 is freaking awesome. why nobody else has really decided to use it is beyond me

i'll link here again because it's got a wealth of great information. Handheld Technology - Beyond3D Forum

 

[ItIsLikeThat]

Anyone want some chips with their Salsa?

Also noticed that the Omnia HD (Feb 2009) was the last time a Samsung smartphone had a TI chip...

 

[Nashdroid]

I traced all of the Ice Cream Sandwich/Texas Instruments rumors back to one original story. This one:

Android Ice Cream Sandwich optimized for Texas Instruments | RCR Unplugged

Read that story, and then tell me that there is some solid credible evidence that the TI OMAP is DEFINITELY going to be in the Nexus. Is there a chance it will? Of course. Is there a chance the new Exynos will be in it? Of course. Everything is rumor. There is no solid evidence of ANYTHING, and like said above, until we see the device in someone's hand and it is tore apart and we can see which processor it has in it, everything is still rumor...Or until Samsung itself confirms the processor, which they or Google might do in the next week or at launch.

Also, the rumor about the new Exynos being in the new Nexus is no more "nonsense" than the rumor that the new OMAP will be in it. They are both a rumor, and there is ZERO solid evidence backing either claim. Saying otherwise is false and can be backed by nothing, other than the editorial tech blog articles that have spread the rumor and the twitter accounts by supposed insiders, which a lot of those have leaned towards the Exynos lately. Still, all are rumors. Geez... haha

Edit: Also, read this article that was posted yesterday. The whole rumor about Texas Instruments and Ice Cream Sandwich started from a picture, that was apparently not confirming an agreement between Google and TI, after all. Read the article. It was all a rumor and will remain a rumor until we get something more solid, like a Nexus in our hand with a TI processor.

http://www.techhog.com/featured/tex...us-image-was-never-meant-to-imply-they-would/

 

[Grandmadroid]

Nash, that sums it up precisely for me! Very well said as always, bro!

After finally getting caught up with this thread over the past couple of days, I've decided to sit back and take a front row seat to observe the reactions and opinions of those of you who will purchase this seemingly spectacular phone. I've loved my Incredible from day one; it has done everything I have asked of it so far. Unfortunately, since I do demand a lot from it, the single biggest drawback has been battery life. Despite the fact that it currently has a 1750mAh battery in it now (the highest capacity battery you can buy and still use the original back cover) it barely gets me through a day - and often, it requires a bump charge during the day.

I keep hearing rave reviews about the iPhone's amazing battery life - and now the iPhone 4GS is supposed to have the best battery life yet! Now don't get me wrong - I have absolutely NO intentions of jumping ship to Apple, but it irks me in knowing that phenomenal battery technology DOES exist - yet it has seemingly eluded Android phones all these years - unless you want to buy a behemoth battery with its brick-like cover... no, thank you. Been there, own it, hate it. The whole eye-candy appeal in a sleek new smartphone is just that - it's sleek!

So, I'll just wait and see... and if the Prime turns out to be the next "Oh-my-god-I-can't-live-without-this-thing" phone, then it'll be mine! Just as long as the battery in it is up to my demands. If not - I'll simply remain on the sidelines until the next big thing emerges from the shadows and has the battery to back it up. (Any input from anyone regarding this phone's battery capabilities (as it emerges, of course) would be greatly appreciated!)


P.S. Much thanks to ALL of you who have contributed to making this THE definitive source on the web on all things Prime! Very well-written, educational and insightful indeed! Also my compliments to my good friend Steven for a very well moderated forum here! Nice going, Ace!

How nice to see you again, Montana Man. Still using my Incredible as well......

 

[xtop]

 

[redraider1]

You hit the nail on the head. Like I said in my post above all this stuff is just noise. Ignore it.

No offense to the usual suspects who leak things via twitter but I don't put much stock in their info. They are wrong more than they are right......

Just like your so called "source" that gave you all the sgs2 info.

 

[r4yN]

normally i'd agree with you, but we pretty much know the general performance of everything out there if you know where to look. and the 543mp2 is freaking awesome. why nobody else has really decided to use it is beyond me

i'll link here again because it's got a wealth of great information. Handheld Technology - Beyond3D Forum

and the GPU-performance is one of the few points android devices are weaker than iPhone/iPod touch... seriously i would never ever buy an iPhone 5, but i've had a iPod Touch (2nd Gen only) and i could play 3d games like Modern Combat and i honestly loved it...

many of my friends have got an iphone 4, some have some android device (some of them even got some highend devices like the sgs2) and when i compare those, i have to admit that when i compare for example Modern Combat 2 or Asphalt 5/6, the game looks way better on the iPhone 4, although the CPU of the other devices is a lot better...

and thats easy to show...

iPhone 4s now has got the PowerVr SGX543MP2, while other actual 'high end' android devices come with only a PowerVr SGX540...

compare them:

PowerVr SGX543 > PowerVr SGX540
and the A5 has got two of those SGX543-cores inside...

i like playing 3d games on my smartphone, and i hate having 2 seperate devices, one for phonecalls and sms, and an ipod touch (or sth) for gaming...


and i really wish that sometimes android devices will have the same GPU-perfomance the iPhone offers.. and thats why im hoping the nexus prime to have the GSMArena-specs... also those new devices are having a 720p screen with about 2x more pixels, so they have to get better GPUs!

(c) my opinion; remember: opinions can't be wrong

ps: yeah i hate apple, but their ipod touchs are pretty nice, though their screens are way to small

 

[Nashdroid]

Update 2: Texas Instruments may not be the chip supplier for the next Nexus, image was never meant to imply they would | TechHog.com | Tech News and Reviews on all things Mobile

 

[Millinium]

Yes and this will go on until the device is announced

People that have no clue are only making educated guesses which still means nothing. Lee or GSM Arena are the specs to expect. Pick a side and wait I say. All this other stuff is just noise....

I think next week will "reveal" quite a lot.

Edit ~ next week = this week.

 

[redraider1]

I can feel the tension rising in these forums. Step back, relax and enjoy it. People getting all antsy and mad isn't going to make the phone get here any faster.

 

[Grandmadroid]

I think that the key points to take from it are;

-Snapdragon, OMAP, and Exynos are so close in performance, it doesn't matter (although an OMAP or Exynos at 1.5ghz is the preferred SOC).
-The PowerVR SGX540 (OMAP), Adreno 220 (Snapdragon), and Mali 400 (Exynos) are all outstanding GPUs with their own pros and cons. Each will be more than sufficient for any user, and even high-end gamers would be lucky to get either of them.

So, in conclusion, all of the rumored chips for this device are outstanding and will make even the most cynical member of this board happy. NOTE: I don't see any way for them to use Snapdragon, but it was mentioned so I addressed it in the comparison.

EDIT: By the time developers make enough use of the difference between SMP and ASMP, we'll all be on our next phone after the Prime, so the differences between Snapdragon and A9 today aren't THAT big of a deal.

Oh my! Thank you! I actually feel like I understood that!

 

[xtop]

Update 2: Texas Instruments may not be the chip supplier for the next Nexus, image was never meant to imply they would | TechHog.com | Tech News and Reviews on all things Mobile

never heard of techhog before. but all ti is doing from what i see from a random apparent email exhange is that they don't comment on rumors and speculation

where there's smoke, there's fire if you ask me

 

[EarlyMon]

normally i'd agree with you, but we pretty much know the general performance of everything out there if you know where to look. and the 543mp2 is freaking awesome. why nobody else has really decided to use it is beyond me

i'll link here again because it's got a wealth of great information. Handheld Technology - Beyond3D Forum

Good forum, I lurk there.

Agreed, the 543mp2 is awesome - but does it clock at 200 MHz in all cases? Will the iP4S run at the A5's full 1 GHz, or will it go down to the usual sub-GHz rate and hit the 543mp2 clock accordingly? (And even if it does, the GFLOPS rate on it will still be amazing.)

Will an Android come out with the 4470 (or better) within that "better part of a year" with its 544mp2 at 300 MHz? Will the iPhone 5 (not 4s) feature a higher target?

Does the A5 use separate full-frame update processor and leave the 543mp2 for just the 3D heavy lifting?

~~~

I care about results - Infinity Blade is incredible on the iPad2, from what little I've seen.

Again - no disrespect to you nor arguing that the 543mp2 isn't quite a feat.

I'm just skeptical about raw processor claims vs. a full-platform comparison, it's in my nature.

 

[r4yN]

Good forum, I lurk there.

Agreed, the 543mp2 is awesome - but does it clock at 200 MHz in all cases? Will the iP4S run at the A5's full 1 GHz, or will it go down to the usual sub-GHz rate and hit the 543mp2 clock accordingly? (And even it does, the GFLOPS rate on it will still be amazing.)

Will an Android come out with the 4470 (or better) within that "better part of a year" with its 544mp2 at 300 MHz? Will the iPhone 5 (not 4s) feature a higher target?

Does the A5 use separate full-frame update processor and leave the 543mp2 for just the 3D heavy lifting?

~~~

I care about results - Infinity Blade is incredible on the iPad2, from what little I've seen.

Again - no disrespect to you nor arguing that the 543mp2 isn't quite a feat.

I'm just skeptical about raw processor claims vs. a full-platform comparison, it's in my nature.

Omap 4470 only has got a single-core PowerVr SGX544...

the SGX544MP2 will be in the OMAP 5 series, but when OMAP5 is avaiable in devices, the apple A6 will already be avaiable with an even better GPU :/

if i missunderstood you, pls excuse me

 

[Nashdroid]

never heard of techhog before. but all ti is doing from what i see from a random apparent email exhange is that they don't comment on rumors and speculation

where there's smoke, there's fire if you ask me

I had never heard of RCR Wireless Unplugged, either. Which is where the TI/Ice Cream Sandwich marriage rumor originated.

Also, if where there's smoke there's fire, then I see some smoke at this link:

EXCLUSIVE: We get the allegedly proper Nexus Prime specs - GSMArena.com news

(Note) If there is fire everywhere there is smoke, in the tech world, then every rumor would have credibility behind it and would wind up having truth to it. We know that's not the case, so that old saying really doesn't work well when used regarding the tech industry.

 

[EarlyMon]

Anyone want some chips with their Salsa?

Also noticed that the Omnia HD (Feb 2009) was the last time a Samsung smartphone had a TI chip...

FWIW - The S3's Scorpion is like a Cortex A8, but is not an A8 - it's a Scorpion.

Calling it an A8 is kinda like applying Intel terminology to an AMD.

 

[cereal killer]

We are all wrong its going to be the Qualcomm Crap Dragon lols

 

[xtop]

Omap 4470 only has got a single-core PowerVr SGX544...

the SGX544MP2 will be in the OMAP 5 series, but when OMAP5 is avaiable in devices, the apple A6 will already be avaiable with an even better GPU :/

if i missunderstood you, pls excuse me

yup. omap5 looks to be android's best chance of catching up. it will be interesting to see what apple uses in the a6. probably just a 543/544mp4, right?

Also, if where there's smoke there's fire, then I see some smoke at this link:

i see it differently than you i suppose. 4460 has been the rumor since june. many times from many "sources". exynos rumor has one source..from a few days ago.

 

[r4yN]

We are all wrong its going to be the Qualcomm Crap Dragon lols

source?

 

[Steven58]

I'm still here watching.

 

[Steven58]

Waiting

 

[cereal killer]

They stress Gaming and Entertainment with the Nexus. That reeks of Exynos 4212...nuff said. Now get back in your seats kids!!!