***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**

[EarlyMon]

Our website reporting tools break out traffic into all sorts of categories and one is browser and version. We can tell the difference between mobile and desktop browsers pretty easily.

Of course, this can be spoofed but it is reliable overall for analysis.

I don't think it is a stretch for the providers to be able to watch the traffic and toss up a red flag if IE or any other desktop browser is requesting pages on a wireless device.

Just my 0.02

Well - for what it's worth...

Stock Android browser code base is WebKit. HTC adds their features to that. Little known factoid is that you can change the UAString via a debug command/prefs change to "Desktop."

There's a guy with a sig on XDA who when you look at his posts - his sig kind of thumbs his nose and says, ha ha, you are running XXX browser on ZZZ operating system - and admonishes about safe browsing without giving away all of your details.

Works on all my desktop configurations exactly.

Except when I change my HTC browser UAString, he identifies me as running Safari on OS X.

So - I think nj02vette was right, it's about NAT stuff, but again - I knew that tech when it was new, by now you have forgotten all I used to know.

But, I thought you'd find that interesting.

Browser traffic is just one type of data usage, and in the grand scheme of things it doesn't eat up much bandwidth. The data that a carrier would see wouldn't be user agent strings like what identify browsers. There are ways to analyze data so that an ISP or a proxy can do packet shaping among other things. I just don't know how practical or possible it is for someone like VZW to monitor data in this fashion to definitively say it's PC traffic instead of traffic from the device.

EarlyMon, just out of curiosity, were you using one of those "black market" tethering apps, or one available on the regular market?

Gee, I don't know about black market, honestly.

I used the original Wireless Tether as hosted on the Google project servers, so I never thought of that as black market back then.

It's similar looking to - but not evidently the same as, just going by my memory and mind's eye, as - (link deleted by me)

However - that may not even show up for Verizon users. And as nj02vette suggests, may not show up for me soon, either.

I'd read that it had some feature in the one I had to defeat carrier detection - but I wasn't trying to cheat an ISP, I figured I'd try it for grins and pay any price if I crossed a line. I like to tinker around.

But like I said, I just don't see the point anymore.

My phone is already capable of doing what I need my laptop to do when I'm truly mobile, so like I said, for me - why even bother?

A doctor in a remote location needing his laptop to get to a hospital internal web with no dial up around - that's one thing.

Otherwise - I'd rather use my laptop less, not more.

If anyone offered a good wireless service where I live - kind of the boonies - where I could drop my DSL line and just do the whole house off a hotspot - sure, I'd pay for that in a heartbeat.

Broadband is everywhere, root tether seems like an ultra-niche to me right now.

And sadly, from what I've read in other forums, it's for the script kiddies to get something for nothing, and I don't roll that way.

OK - off soapbox, hope I answered the question.

 

[NexusMe]

Many are frustrated with his cryptic and often inaccurate tweets. If it is not available to the public, wouldn't that include us? Is he talking about something just for himself?

He tweeted earlier that he was going to wait for a Moto phone that was not Bionic, RAZR, or D4. Explain that one?!

Yeah earlier he said that the Droid HD wasn't the Razr........... I'm assuming he's probably getting his hands on it. Damnit it's pathetic how desperate I am for some Gnex news!!!!

 

[Ringhale]

Not quite senior citizen status yet but, I got cards. Who's in?

Although someone would have to teach me how to play bridge.

Go Fish?

 

[BabyBlues]

Gee, I don't know about black market, honestly.

I used the original Wireless Tether as hosted on the Google project servers, so I never thought of that as black market back then.

It's similar looking to - but not evidently the same as, just going by my memory and mind's eye, as - (link deleted by EM)

However - that may not even show up for Verizon users. And as nj02vette suggests, may not show up for me soon, either.

I'd read that it had some feature in the one I had to defeat carrier detection -...

I can see it in the market, but it tells me it's not compatible with my phone.

 

[Steven58]

Well, I'm here. Finished watching my DVR'd Fringe episode for tonight.

Is anyone still here? I'll be around a little bit.

 

[redraider1]

Well, I'm here. Finished watching my DVR'd Fringe episode for tonight.

Is anyone still here? I'll be around a little bit.

Any new info for those of us here from your source?

 

[HanSolo]

Well, I'm here. Finished watching my DVR'd Fringe episode for tonight.

Is anyone still here? I'll be around a little bit.

Going to bed. But Fringe was great tonight! I hope that's not a romantic vibe between Olivia and Lincoln!

G'night all.

 

[BabyBlues]

Well, I'm here. Finished watching my DVR'd Fringe episode for tonight.

Is anyone still here? I'll be around a little bit.

I'm here. Was going to watch my dvr'd episode of Grimm but I'll save it for when boredom sets in tomorrow or Sunday

 

[BabyBlues]

Going to bed. But Fringe was great tonight! I hope that's not a romantic vibe between Olivia and Lincoln!

G'night all.

Night Hans!

 

[EarlyMon]

I can see it in the market, but it tells me it's not compatible with my phone.

It's one of those free things that really isn't free anyway.

It heats up your phone (severely - seriously), it eats battery instantly unless you're on a charger (more harmful heating), it reduces bandwidth, and it puts you at risk with your Verizon contract.

I might just take the link down, I don't want to encourage things, and it's not worth it.

Remember - your phone was designed to have either a carrier radio working or wifi radio working - not both, with full traffic and full power to all radios at once.

TANSTAAFL - there ain't no such thing as a free lunch!

'Nuff said.

 

[Ninjak]

Wonder if this is a sign. Star Trek Generations is on. Picard, aboard his "galaxy" class starship, is currently attempting to find... "the nexus"!

 

[BabyBlues]

It's one of those free things that really isn't free anyway.

It heats up your phone (severely - seriously), it eats battery instantly unless you're on a charger (more harmful heating), it reduces bandwidth, and it puts you at risk with your Verizon contract.

I might just take the link down, I don't want to encourage things, and it's not worth it.

Remember - your phone was designed to have either a carrier radio working or wifi radio working - not both, with full traffic and full power to all radios at once.

TANSTAAFL - there ain't no such thing as a free lunch!

'Nuff said.

It truly isn't worth having issues with verizon. I will admit to having the app but i've only used it once and it was to get my work computer connected to the Internet when it went down so I could email the corporate office. Otherwise the file actually stays on my external hard drive.

Wonder if this is a sign. Star Trek Generations is on. Picard, aboard his "galaxy" class starship, is currently attempting to find... "the nexus"!

It's a sign!

 

[OfTheDamned]

Wonder if this is a sign. Star Trek Generations is on. Picard, aboard his "galaxy" class starship, is currently attempting to find... "the nexus"!

Yea, but Picard is English so it is only a sign of the UK release.

 

[darejer]

What Happens When Android and iOS Users Join Together? They Make Beautiful Music Together

 

[BabyBlues]

What Happens When Android and iOS Users Join Together? They Make Beautiful Music Together

Quite interesting

 

[Steven58]

Any new info for those of us here from your source?

Red,

You know if I have something I immediately tell everyone. I'm not into holding onto stuff for any reason. I don't play games. I'm just as excited as everyone else. My sense is that there isn't much more information to be had, really.

We pretty much know everything except:

1) The price breakdown (if there's a difference between the 32 and 16 gb, heck even if there IS a 16 gb for VZ)
2) The actual release date confirmed by vz. That bit of info will obviously have to come directly from vz because we have their supposed internal documents.
3) Confirmation of battery size.

That's pretty much it, the way I see it. We already got everything else leaked or revealed. The way I see it, we coasting until verizon goes public.

 

[darejer]

Red,

You know if I have something I immediately tell everyone. I'm not into holding onto stuff for any reason. I don't play games. I'm just as excited as everyone else. My sense is that there isn't much more information to be had, really.

We pretty much know everything except:

1) The price breakdown (if there's a difference between the 32 and 16 gb, heck even if there IS a 16 gb for VZ)
2) The actual release date confirmed by vz. That bit of info will obviously have to come directly from vz because we have their supposed internal documents.
3) Confirmation of battery size.

That's pretty much it, the way I see it. We already got everything else leaked or revealed. The way I see it, we coasting until verizon goes public.

Amen, brutha'... and the possibility of a presale/date.

 

[ASC]

Yea, but Picard is English so it is only a sign of the UK release.

Jean Luc Picard is French... But you'd probably be correct about a European GNex release...

 

[OfTheDamned]

What's next... Arabs and Jews playing hopscotch together?!
What Happens When Android and iOS Users Join Together? They Make Beautiful Music Together

That has me suddenly thinking about the book Cell by Stephen King.

 

[OfTheDamned]

Jean Luc Picard is French... But you'd probably be correct about a European GNex release...

Really? I've only seen it a few times, but he always sounded so British to me.
<----Shrugs and sighs. Not a Trek fan, sorry.

 

[Ninjak]

Damn. No rumors of a phaser option on the GNex either. I'd sure enjoy a stun setting. And I'm sure there's already a tricorder app somewhere.

 

[Ninjak]

Really? I've only seen it a few times, but he always sounded so British to me.
<----Shrugs and sighs. Not a Trek fan, sorry.

Well, he was a British shakespearean actor pre-Trek.

 

[darejer]

That has me suddenly thinking about the book Cell by Stephen King.

Don't Android users sign an agreement saying that they won't consort with the enemy, I mean fruit phone users?!

 

[xs301]

I doubt it's anything related to us. His saying "not available to the public" is probably a hint that he's getting a test device of some sort.

I can't stand his mickey-mousing. If you're going to leak something, leak it. If not, shut up about it.

He's like a 6th grade attention hore saying "Hmm. I've got something in my backpack that you really would want to see."

"Ooh, ooh, what is it!"

"Hmm. Not telling."

I can't believe how someone can be followed so much when they make vague statements that later can easily be viewed as prophecy. Either way, it's not for me. I see it more as amusement. Mostly because of how much attention it gets.

 

[Steven58]

Jean Luc is French but the actor is British, so he speaks with a British accent. Who knows? In the Future, perhaps all French people speak English with a British accent?