Verizon-Can we please get a grown-up HTC Android 2.1 phone?

[blackdognorth]

Verizon and HTC:
There are millions of us that would like a grown-up HTC Android 2.1-based device with a 1gHz Snapdragon processor.
No need to focus the entire UI on games/Facebook and video. This stuff is going way overboard and most of us do not have time for all of this with our current family and business responsibilities.
Want seamless integration into Outlook and Exchange server! (why is this SO hard???!!!!)
Want a great physical slide-out keyboard.
Want capacitive 3.5" with multi-touch.
Want GSM capability.
Want microSD card

Hey-Just take the HTC TouchPro2, add the Snapdragon processor, ditch WinMo
(nothing good ever came out of (nothing good ever came out of Microsoft) and add Android 2.1 with Sense. We'd be very happy. Sign me up for four years. How many business users out there are putting up with their lousy little "messenger" Blackberries? You could capture almost the whole market.

 

[Crude]

Verizon and HTC:
There are millions of us that would like a grown-up HTC Android 2.1-based device with a 1gHz Snapdragon processor.
No need to focus the entire UI on games/Facebook and video. This stuff is going way overboard and most of us do not have time for all of this with our current family and business responsibilities.
Want seamless integration into Outlook and Exchange server! (why is this SO hard???!!!!)
Want a great physical slide-out keyboard.
Want capacitive 3.5" with multi-touch.
Want GSM capability.
Want microSD card

Hey-Just take the HTC TouchPro2, add the Snapdragon processor, ditch WinMo
(nothing good ever came out of (nothing good ever came out of Microsoft) and add Android 2.1 with Sense. We'd be very happy. Sign me up for four years. How many business users out there are putting up with their lousy little "messenger" Blackberries? You could capture almost the whole market.

This is the problem it's not a question of difficulty, it's a question of diversity.
I like being able to check up on facebook occasionally throughout the day and the occasional game.
I hate outlook and do not want it on my phone ( nothing good ever came outta microsoft remember?)
Slide out keyboards add bulk and do nothing for ergonomics.

Verizon uses CDMA technology they will never have GSM phones. There are pros and cons to both. CDMA has greater range and penetration but the trade off is slightly lower data speeds. GSM is accesible world wide.


Lastly Verizon is always behind in the phone arena. It sucks but at least they get them unlike companies like UScellular who still have no noteworth winmo phones and no android at all.

 

[QrafTee]

Verizon and HTC:
There are millions of us that would like a grown-up HTC Android 2.1-based device with a 1gHz Snapdragon processor.
No need to focus the entire UI on games/Facebook and video. This stuff is going way overboard and most of us do not have time for all of this with our current family and business responsibilities.
Want seamless integration into Outlook and Exchange server! (why is this SO hard???!!!!)
Want a great physical slide-out keyboard.
Want capacitive 3.5" with multi-touch.
Want GSM capability.
Want microSD card

- Most of "us?" Don't speak for most of "us." Look at how many millions of users are on Facebook and try to convince people it's not at all important.
- Seamless integration is always a plus. We shouldn't have to jump through hoops to get our emails and calenders all synced and organized in a clean fashion.
- People want a "great" physical keyboard, a slim form factor, and a sexy look. You can't have them all. Other than just "adding a better keyboard" there are a lot of tests involved to make sure it works and if people will even buy it if it makes a certain phone bigger.
- Droid and Nexus One will have multi-touch on Verizon. I don't see why you're complaining about that. Why does it have to be an HTC phone, anyway?
- GSM would be great, but Verizon uses CDMA technology so it's not required for them to have GSM, only if they want to make a world phone. Adding GSM adds a new element of security to the phone. Before they'd only have to worry about people taking their phones to Sprint, but making it GSM it could possibly be rooted and unlocked to be used on other carriers. It matters because it's a business in the end.
- I really don't know what you mean by wanting a MicroSD card. The Droid and Droid Eris both include one; the Nexus One should have one stock as well.

 

[NewbieX2]

Hey, what about Sprint? Verizon gets offered all these nice phones and what is Sprint left with? I'm still waiting for more info on the Supersonic...After I get that, then you guys can get whatever the hell it is you want.

 

[clitrenta]

Seems to me Verizon has the only "grownup" phones out there although I certainly like my myTouch. As for Microsoft, I think everyone likes bashing on them. Move on. Windows 7 is great and Windows 7 Mobile will be also. I do agree however that they should offer the HD2 in Android (not taking away WinMo just giving us 2 flavors). Why not? There is a need for phones that are afordable to everyone which I think is what drives them but they must also realize that there is a large group of people willing to pay for a premium phone but they actually need to show us one. You know?

 

[skunkpbguy]

Most of us don't use Outlook and NEVER will, too many better options available..

 

[spinkick]

Verizon and HTC:
There are millions of us that would like a grown-up HTC Android 2.1-based device with a 1gHz Snapdragon processor.
No need to focus the entire UI on games/Facebook and video. This stuff is going way overboard and most of us do not have time for all of this with our current family and business responsibilities.
Want seamless integration into Outlook and Exchange server! (why is this SO hard???!!!!)
Want a great physical slide-out keyboard.
Want capacitive 3.5" with multi-touch.
Want GSM capability.
Want microSD card

Hey-Just take the HTC TouchPro2, add the Snapdragon processor, ditch WinMo
(nothing good ever came out of (nothing good ever came out of Microsoft) and add Android 2.1 with Sense. We'd be very happy. Sign me up for four years. How many business users out there are putting up with their lousy little "messenger" Blackberries? You could capture almost the whole market.

The computer world would not be what it is today without Microsoft doing what they have done. They have standardized a lot of things that would have been "wild west" if it wasnt for them. Look at the 1000 different version of linux out there. A business nightmare. Hell there are 11ty versions of Android..

Microsoft gets a bad rap, but they arent all bad and we have lot to be appreciative

 

[kyler13]

Verizon uses CDMA technology they will never have GSM phones. There are pros and cons to both. CDMA has greater range and penetration but the trade off is slightly lower data speeds. GSM is accesible world wide.

I agree with most of what you say, but CDMA isn't slightly slower. HSPA is 7.2Mbps at full speed, and HSPA+ hits 21Mbps. EVDO rev A maxes out at 3.1Mbps. That all being said, at least Verizon has much more expansive coverage at their speeds. Most of the faster network coverage from the opposition is sparse.

Most of us don't use Outlook and NEVER will, too many better options available..

Exactly. If you're not a corporate or even small business user, why on earth do you need exchange?

 

[3devious]

Exactly. If you're not a corporate or even small business user, why on earth do you need exchange?

Until Google gets its act together with Wave/Buzz/whatever there isn't a good substitute for all of that as an alternative. There are clients that get pop and clients for ical and the like but there isn't a good sharing solution that is widely used other than exchange.

It sucks that no one wants to do it other than Google.

I am more kicked in the butt by someone demanding GSM on Verizon than by a lack of exchange support. It doesn't really sound like you want Verizon to give you an HTC phone you can use, BDN. It sounds like you want a different carrier when your contract is up. I never thought I would find myself recommending AT&T, but there it is. Out here, it has gotten a lot more reliable and is no more expensive than VZW.

 

[JrzDroid]

to the Original Post : The Incredible and N1 are on the way, gown up phones? I think so.

as for the CDMA vs. GSM, forget it,
LTE is coming

 

[craigrn16]

This is the problem it's not a question of difficulty, it's a question of diversity.
I like being able to check up on facebook occasionally throughout the day and the occasional game.
I hate outlook and do not want it on my phone ( nothing good ever came outta microsoft remember?)
Slide out keyboards add bulk and do nothing for ergonomics.

Verizon uses CDMA technology they will never have GSM phones. There are pros and cons to both. CDMA has greater range and penetration but the trade off is slightly lower data speeds. GSM is accesible world wide.


Lastly Verizon is always behind in the phone arena. It sucks but at least they get them unlike companies like UScellular who still have no noteworth winmo phones and no android at all.

just to let you know alot of Verizon's blackberry's have both gsm for world mode and CDMA to work in the state here. I don't know why they wouldn't be able to do that with android phones. I hope they do get a decent HTC phone thought. I love my droid but that Nexus one looks sexy,

 

[kyler13]

just to let you know alot of Verizon's blackberry's have both gsm for world mode and CDMA to work in the state here. I don't know why they wouldn't be able to do that with android phones. I hope they do get a decent HTC phone thought. I love my droid but that Nexus one looks sexy,

Blackberries and some of the WinMo phones, particularly from HTC are world capable. Verizon does that for business users that may travel out of the country. Whether one uses an Android phone for business or not, the perception is that they are more for personal use. With LTE being more globally accepted, doubtful that Verizon expands world capability to any other phones.

 

[jkmasi]

I agree with OP about the Touch Pro 2. What an awesome phone -- except for the WinMo and touchscreen. I don't even think I would have minded the WinMo, if the touch screen had been better. The physical keyboard on that phone was THE BEST I've ever used. Way better than my blackberry. And it was GSM capable for international use. I said in another thread somewhere that if HTC made a top of the line android phone in the TP2's body, I would pay a premium price for it. Of course, slim it was not. It was a chubby phone.

Oh - and I forgot-- you can change the font size on most of the phone so that you can READ it without a microscope! Love my Eris, but HATE that you cannot adjust the font size in menus and some basic apps.

 

[blackdognorth]

My original post was in response to Droid and Eris being the only Android options currently. And the continued delay in the upgrades. Vast amounts of speculation and rumor but after months, no other options are "official".
Every office I have worked in uses Outlook and Exchange Server, so I have no choice but to sync with Exchange. If I were self-employed, I'd never look at it again. Maybe there aren't that many Outlook users...who knows...seems like millions to me.
GSM: Just wanted to have world capability. Asking for too much I guess. I agree; wish TP2 was Android.

Perhaps it is true that Microsoft standardized a great deal in the industry...but they really had a "mafia strategy" from pretty early on. And the headaches that I have had with Vista and XP 64 bit...just seems like real quality and integration is not at the top of their priority list.

In the end, some business mobile users may be forced to Windows 7 platform if Android can't get tight integration to Exchange as an option.
(I'm assuming throughout here that for certain reasons I don't want Blackberry.)