Root Can HTC see that I'm rooted on their end?

[3vodroid]

I've contacted htc about an issue in having with my device and they wanted serial numbers etc. Question is- can they detect that I am rooted and unlocked by giving them that info? Thanks in advance.

Btw. I am rooted, htc dev unlocked, s-on running Viper w/ TWRP recovery.

 

[Rxpert83]

Using Regaws unlocker used minimal information from your own phone. With that being said, theres no telling whether they know or not. Part of why unlocking isnt a big deal is because most people dont go through HTC for warranty.

My question is, why are you contacting htc and not sprint about your issue?

What is the issue?

Do you have insurance?

 

[dtanner]

Yeah for real. More info.

 

[3vodroid]

Sorry guys I didn't mean to leave you hanging... My screen ever so lightly flickers on Grey colors see thread - - - >
http://androidforums.com/showthread.php?p=4872972

It's not THAT big of a deal but I just wanted to see if htc had any useful info about it. I do have insurance btw

 

[argedion]

Not sure what HTC uses to get information from the phone now. Carrier IQ was that source however since the exposure of that who knows what they have come up with since then. I do suspect that was one of the main reasons behind the HTC DEV tool.

Issues with the phone should be dealt with by sprint. Technically they are HTC's customer not us the end user. Most hardware issues sprint takes care of with out the insurance.

 

[3vodroid]

Not sure what HTC uses to get information from the phone now. Carrier IQ was that source however since the exposure of that who knows what they have come up with since then. I do suspect that was one of the main reasons behind the HTC DEV tool.

Issues with the phone should be dealt with by sprint. Technically they are HTC's customer not us the end user. Most hardware issues sprint takes care of with out the insurance.

OK ill go to sprint... The corp store around me is a bunch of.... Oh never mind. Lol But seriously I can already see it, ill bring it in and they will just want to argue/tell me they can't duplicate my issue. And I really DONT want a refurb. So ill just hope cm10 fixes it

 

[dtanner]

OK ill go to sprint... The corp store around me is a bunch of.... Oh never mind. Lol But seriously I can already see it, ill bring it in and they will just want to argue/tell me they can't duplicate my issue. And I really DONT want a refurb. So ill just hope cm10 fixes it

Let us know.

 

[3vodroid]

So if something software wise goes wrong with my phone, I would have no choice but to pay the ins deductible? Bc when they replace it for free their using your manufacturers warranty right?

I'm only stating this hypothetically.. Just wanna understand a little better.

 

[Rxpert83]

So if something software wise goes wrong with my phone, I would have no choice but to pay the ins deductible? Bc when they replace it for free their using your manufacturers warranty right?

I'm only stating this hypothetically.. Just wanna understand a little better.

If its a software problem, flashing a ROM would typically solve it. Hardware problems persist through ROM flashes.

They will generally replace hardware malfunctions for free using the manufacturers warranty without even caring if its rooted for the above reason.

 

[3vodroid]

If its a software problem, flashing a ROM would typically solve it. Hardware problems persist through ROM flashes.

They will generally replace hardware malfunctions for free using the manufacturers warranty without even caring if its rooted for the above reason.

Even if it is re locked?

I was just wondering bc I had to send my girlfriends stratosphere back to Verizon a couple days ago and on the box it stated that if there was any water damage, physical damage etc that the owner would have to pay the full price of the phone. I guess this is in case you waterlogged your phone but for if some reason the tech at the store didn't notice it and processed it as a free warranty replacement they can still charge you. I didn't know if this pertained to rooting as well. Say if the sprint tech didn't notice it said "relocked" but htc did when they received it.

 

[Rxpert83]

Maybe Mr. Ed can chime in here, but sprint official policy is that rooting the device doesnt not automatically prevent you from getting the device serviced. They will notify you of the dangers of rooting but it is ultimately the customers decision.

I understand your question is about the possibility of HTC charging you for the device once you get the new one. In my experiences that does not happen.

 

[3vodroid]

Maybe Mr. Ed can chime in here, but sprint official policy is that rooting the device doesnt not automatically prevent you from getting the device serviced. They will notify you of the dangers of rooting but it is ultimately the customers decision.

I understand your question is about the possibility of HTC charging you for the device once you get the new one. In my experiences that does not happen.

Thank you for clearing that up

 

[tRobert]

Thank you for clearing that up

Good to know, I've been wandering about this the past 3 weeks while debating whether or not to root mine.

 

[ocnbrze]

yeah i have a sprint tech who i have gotten to know over the years and he has known that i root my phones. he has no issues with me being rooted and bringing in the phone when i have had issues in the past. as long as the issue is not a root related issue, he is fine with it. plus there are ways to alter what the bootloader says (for those who have s-off) to hide the fact that your phone is indeed rooted.

 

[InTheRough]

yeah i have a sprint tech who i have gotten to know over the years and he has known that i root my phones. he has no issues with me being rooted and bringing in the phone when i have had issues in the past. as long as the issue is not a root related issue, he is fine with it. plus there are ways to alter what the bootloader says (for those who have s-off) to hide the fact that your phone is indeed rooted.

It's my understanding that the modified bootloader to show stock info is good for the tech who would just boot it up and check the screen real quick. Is there not a way to check for actual lock status and S-on status with adb or other security software like MobileIron?

 

[Rxpert83]

It's my understanding that the modified bootloader to show stock info is good for the tech who would just boot it up and check the screen real quick. Is there not a way to check for actual lock status and S-on status with adb or other security software like MobileIron?

Sure there are ways of 100% knowing. all they'd have to do is try to install something not signed by HTC via the bootloader.

Will they ever do this though? No

At most they'll check the bootloader... if they even do that

 

[3vodroid]

Sure there are ways of 100% knowing. all they'd have to do is try to install something not signed by HTC via the bootloader.

Will they ever do this though? No

At most they'll check the bootloader... if they even do that

And if they were to check the bootloader relocked would be good enough. A freind of a freind works at sprint and i asked him to ask him. lol. Relocked is good. And like RX said thats even if they check. I was told they often dont.

 

[Rxpert83]

Soff users won't display relocked. We can even make our bootloader say s-on and locked even though we are completly s-off still


If I wanted to hide it, sprint would have no clue. However, I usually just tell them the phone is rooted so they don't go messing with things they have no business messing with

 

[InTheRough]

Soff users won't display relocked. We can even make our bootloader say s-on and locked even though we are completly s-off still


If I wanted to hide it, sprint would have no clue. However, I usually just tell them the phone is rooted so they don't go messing with things they have no business messing with

Waiting for Regawmod to update the bootloader customizer that would allow stock 1.15 or 1.19 so this would be less of a problem.

 

[Rxpert83]

Waiting for Regawmod to update the bootloader customizer that would allow stock 1.15 or 1.19 so this would be less of a problem.

You have to be S-OFF to use it, so that wont happen for 1.15 or 1.19 till S-OFF is achieved

 

[InTheRough]

You have to be S-OFF to use it, so that wont happen for 1.15 or 1.19 till S-OFF is achieved

Yup. I've got the lazypanda 1.12.2222 hboot.

 

[Rxpert83]

Then why do you want 1.15 or 1.19?

 

[3vodroid]

Don't do it! I'm on 1.15 and it sucks. I'll trade with you!

 

[windsorclarenc]

Hboot 1.15 is such a pain. Don't upgrade!

 

[Rxpert83]

Well with S-OFF it wont be a pain. You could still flash normally. The thing is though theres no benefit gained by upgrading the bootloader