Was Trump robbed?

[dontpanicbobby]

Nope. U.S. folks just voted their conscience is my opinion.

 

[ocnbrze]

if anything trump is trying to steal the election like a dictator would!!!!!!

the call for a Biden win is legit. nothing fraudulent here.i just wish that the votes were all done counting so that we can completely prove the Biden win. we will get there, it just might take some time to finish the count.

 

[Hadron]

Trump and his enablers have been trying to set this situation up for months: telling their own supporters that mail-in ballots are prone to fraud (though nobody has ever produced evidence, and all studies show that vote fraud in US elections is actually very rare whether in-person or postal), telling their supporters to vote in person, and in many cases Republican-run state legislatures preventing any early counting of mail-in ballots. It was all designed to produce the result that there would be early leads for Trump which would erode when mail-in ballots were counted, and then Trump would call "foul" and claim that people were rigging ballots when they saw he was leading.

It's transparent, and they've been setting it up for this for months in plain sight. But with people living in their own separate realities these days there are still many who will swallow it anyway. And he and his cronies will keep repeating the same stories, without evidence, even after the claims have been repudiated, because it's only ever about one man and his ego (not even about power any more, that's done. Though as there are a lot of more harmful things he could do with his lame duck period I personally hope it keeps him distracted a bit longer).

 

[puppykickr]

It is obvious that the election was rigged.

How else can tens of thousands (if not millions) of ballots in excess of the number of registered voters be accounted for?!?

 

[Deleted User]

They were rolling out the F - squad with Kayleigh McEnany yesterday. I wonder how many of these "whistle blowers" will suddenly not be needed.

 

[ocnbrze]

It is obvious that the election was rigged.

How else can tens of thousands (if not millions) of ballots in excess of the number of registered voters be accounted for?!?

sorry but there is no evidence of a rigged election.....just because trump says so does not make it so.

edit: and don't throw some link to a far right wing, conservative, crazy website or article that backs up any evidence of such.

 

[ocnbrze]

They were rolling out the F - squad with Kayleigh McEnany yesterday. I wonder how many of these "whistle blowers" will suddenly not be needed.

it was hilarious to see fox news cut her press conference short after she tried to spread lies and conspiracies.

 

[jhtalisman]

It is obvious that the election was rigged.

How else can tens of thousands (if not millions) of ballots in excess of the number of registered voters be accounted for?!?

That has already been debunked. The website used for that source still had the previous years registered voters count (2018). I believe it has since been updated.

 

[jhtalisman]

(though nobody has ever produced evidence, and all studies show that vote fraud in US elections is actually very rare whether in-person or postal)

Even the conservative leaning Heritage Foundation admits that. There are only 6 voting fraud convictions per 10,000,000 votes. If that holds true for this election that is roughly 100. Not enough to turn the election around in any way.

 

[Hadron]

One postal worker who had signed a deposition alleging that they had been instructed to manipulate ballots, the nearest thing to evidence produced so far, has admitted that it was a false statement and withdrawn it (though not so far said why they gave a false statement). But I'm sure that the base will just say that the deep state got to him (the beauty of such conspiracy theories is that they are immune to falsification: anything that contradicts them is just claimed to be evidence of the conspiracy in action).

The voter registration thing, my thought was simply that if there were anything behind that it would have been central to the lawsuits. The fact that it wasn't, given the weakness of the stuff they had included, was a pretty good indicator that there was nothing behind it.

 

[Hadron]

It's perhaps worth remembering a little history here: Trump claimed fraud even in the election he won (in fact both before and after winning). He then set up his own "voting integrity commission" to investigate these claims 3 years ago. That was disbanded after failing to find any evidence.

Just remember that: as President, Trump set up his own commission to follow up his own claims of widespread electoral fraud, and his own people didn't find anything. The fact that this made no difference to his claims is very telling.

 

[ocnbrze]

looks like the shoe is on the other foot now.....LOL

 

[PitCarver]

 

[ocnbrze]

who cares what team trump says.......this is no proof....just propaganda

edit: stop reading and posting from far right conspiracy wacko sites. they are making you crazy and delusional.

 

[dontpanicbobby]

It is obvious that the election was rigged.

How else can tens of thousands (if not millions) of ballots in excess of the number of registered voters be accounted for?!?

They haven't been counted yet. They were segregated.

 

[ocnbrze]

the question is when will trump and his delusional supporters realize he lost:

 

[ocnbrze]

OMG fox news did this!!!!!!!

hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!:

 

[ocnbrze]

 

[Davdi]

Will thet police or National Guard have to drag him kicking and screaming from the White House in January (or before)?

 

[ocnbrze]

talk about hypocritical:

i guess it is fox news soooooooo not really surprised.

 

[Deleted User]

... ahem! . ..

 

[Hadron]

The question is how much, from the point of view of the party rather than the sore loser, is actually about trying to change the result, and how much is about attempting to undermine the legitimacy is the eyes of many people, providing a "justification" for the obstructionism we expect McConnell to continue, for their attempts to use "preventing fraud" as a pretext for voter suppression, and seeding a narrative that they think they'll be able to take advantage of in future?

(For Trump himself, sure, it's probably about his ego not allowing him to admit he lost. The only way he can square his belief that he was a "great president" with being a one-term president is if he really won but was cheated. And anyway most of his business dealings seem to end up in the courts, so why shouldn't a presidency that in many ways he treated as just another business be any different?).

 

[dontpanicbobby]

Heck man. Nixon had some good ideas. He only had one term. Definitely tried to steal the second though which shouldn't nullify the first term accomplishments.

I find it hard to find what Trump has done for me.

He sent my stimulus check to an accounting firm. He opened up national parks to developers. None of this makes my life better.

 

[puppykickr]

They haven't been counted yet. They were segregated.

Democrats have always been in favor of segregation.

 

[puppykickr]

Even the conservative leaning Heritage Foundation admits that. There are only 6 voting fraud convictions per 10,000,000 votes. If that holds true for this election that is roughly 100. Not enough to turn the election around in any way.

The number of convictions never matches the number of happenings, in any sort of crime.

There is no correlation between the two to be able to say that it does not happen, or that it is rare.