Cancel my order for the Incredible and wait for Moto X instead?

[dguy]

Hardware specifications are important on a smartphone for the same reason they are on a PC. More computing power means you can run more and more complicated applications and games than something not as robust. It also means you could load and run mainstream applications faster than on a device with lesser specifications. Less time waiting is always a good thing.

I don't think it being nearly twice as powerful can be considered a marginal difference. The Droid X is faster than the Incredible by a larger amount than the Incredible is faster than the Droid, which is huge.

 

[mttfrog13]

Hardware specifications are important on a smartphone for the same reason they are on a PC. More computing power means you can run more and more complicated applications and games than something not as robust. It also means you could load and run mainstream applications faster than on a device with lesser specifications. Less time waiting is always a good thing.

I don't think it being nearly twice as powerful can be considered a marginal difference. The Droid X is faster than the Incredible by a larger amount than the Incredible is faster than the Droid, which is huge.

all of the android phones will be running the same software tho, so it just doesn't matter as much. Developers aren't going to create an app for 1 of the many android phones. Maybe it will future proof the droid x for a while longer but otherwise, it simply doesn't matter. PCs are PCs, we're talking about phones here. The circumstances are different. Games will probably launch faster, but not play smoother. And if u look, the nexus one with the snapdragon more than doubled(according to that ridiculous benchmark) when it was upgraded to 2.2.

This reminds me of the speed test for browsers. According to javascript test browsers like google chrome, opera, or safari are multiple times "faster" than firefox and ie but pages might only load a fraction of a second faster.

EDIT: Apparently the word around is that the droid shadow could be launching with android 2.2, not 2.1. So the nexus one with the snapdragon is faster than the motorola shadow with both running 2.2

 

[IcedTC]

I think you will be happy with either. If you want a bigger screen go for it...but I wouldn't really sweat it either way.

Look at the bright side...in another 6-8 months all of our phones will be obsolete!

The thing with technology is that you have to be happy with what you have when you get it. It's literally impossible to stay on top of it all.

Personally, I went from an EnV2 to the Incredible and I love it. 2.1 is FAST...when 2.2 comes out it will be even better. I'll stick it out from 2 years and be perfectly happy with that.

 

[jayjay1122]

Damnnnnnnn that's a huge phone!!!!!
So this thing is taller than the EVO and just as wide?

 

[jayjay1122]

FWIW...every mention of this phone's processor I have seen show it also running 1ghz.

 

[jayjay1122]

You nailed it. Thats exactly what they are doing. It reminds me of when I picked up my first PSP and a couple of really cool UMD movies... but guess what, that sucker was way too big to tote anywhere so I never used it. Just sat in the closet or on the coffee table.

They have got to draw the line somewhere and decide when they are crossing the line and making these portable devices a lot less portable.

Or just turning them into smaller netbooks!

 

[ylexot]

FWIW...every mention of this phone's processor I have seen show it also running 1ghz.

Yes, but it is a faster and more efficient (better battery life) 1GHz processor.

 

[jamor]

You nailed it. Thats exactly what they are doing. It reminds me of when I picked up my first PSP and a couple of really cool UMD movies... but guess what, that sucker was way too big to tote anywhere so I never used it. Just sat in the closet or on the coffee table.

They have got to draw the line somewhere and decide when they are crossing the line and making these portable devices a lot less portable.

Yea the Incredible is perfect size for me. I cross my fingers that when I upgrade, they continue to make Incredible size phones, because I will NOT buy Shadow/Evo size phone. I'm a pocket guy.

You know what this reminds me of? The razor race.

First 1 blade, then 2, then 3, then 5?!?!

Man o Man Gillette. 5 blades - what are you trying to do - cut off my face? You couldn't pay me to put that thing anywhere near me!!

 

[jayjay1122]

Yes, but it is a faster and more efficient (better battery life) 1GHz processor.

Really? How many 1g snapdragons are out there?
And yes I am really asking the question.

 

[ylexot]

Really? How many 1g snapdragons are out there?
And yes I am really asking the question.

Its not a Snapdragon...its an OMAP processor in the X.

 

[bigbloo]

Nice, the Moto X is so much better than the Inc that it's making it outdated? That's cool to hear. I'm glad technology progresses at such a fast rate. I can't wait for all the cool stuff that it will do that the Inc won't! Geeze at this rate we'll be riding around in spaceships by Q4!

I don't think you understood what i meant. I did not mean that technologically the droid x is in every way superior to the incredible, but when a new phone comes out that has more/better features than a phone your currently waiting on, then yeah, the new phone is literally newer, and has made the old phone, old news. And your right, we could cancel the order it just plain sucks that were even in this predicament.

on a side note there are already cars that convert to personal aircrafts available now for a few mil, might not be a spaceship but its close

 

[Damn_Smooth]

Yes, but it is a faster and more efficient (better battery life) 1GHz processor.

I take it that you know this from all of your hands on time with the device. I've seen far more credible reports that it runs at 750mhz than some guy (or girl) in an internet forum saying that it has a more efficient 1ghz processor.

 

[jayjay1122]

Its not a Snapdragon...its an OMAP processor in the X.

Hmmm...

Honestly not busting your chops (I know it seems that way ) but both of these links (for what they are worth) show it as a snapdragon:

More details leaked on Motorola Xtreme - AfterDawn

New pics of the Droid X emerge, looking like a major player (updated) | Android Central


Only this one mentions the OMAP Processor and its listed as 750MHz, not 1GHz!


[Exclusive] Motorola Droid Xtreme Hands-On Photos

 

[ylexot]

I take it that you know this from all of your hands on time with the device. I've seen far more credible reports that it runs at 750mhz than some guy (or girl) in an internet forum saying that it has a more efficient 1ghz processor.

How about someone who has one?
http://androidforums.com/motorola-s...a-shadow-pre-release-thread-5.html#post923593

And about Snapdragon...
http://androidforums.com/motorola-s...a-shadow-pre-release-thread-4.html#post914753

 

[jayjay1122]

How about someone who has one?
http://androidforums.com/motorola-s...a-shadow-pre-release-thread-5.html#post923593

And about Snapdragon...
http://androidforums.com/motorola-s...a-shadow-pre-release-thread-4.html#post914753

Definitely seems like more "quality" info!!
Thanks!!

 

[ylexot]

I guess it won't be too long before we get official specs...
Verizon Announcing Next Motorola Droid on June 23 (Phone Scoop)

Verizon Wireless has announced that on June 23 it will be holding a press event to reveal the "next generation of Droid" from Motorola. According to Verizon Wireless, executives from Motorola, Adobe, Google and Verizon Wireless will be there. Adobe's presence strongly suggests that the new device will run Android 2.2 Froyo and be equipped with Flash Player 10.1.

Hmmm...I didn't think it would come with Froyo!

 

[jayjay1122]

I guess it won't be too long before we get official specs...
Verizon Announcing Next Motorola Droid on June 23 (Phone Scoop)

Hmmm...I didn't think it would come with Froyo!

Yeah but it makes sense.
It's supposed to roll out on the Incredible and EVO in a "few months" so I would not be surprised to see any new hardware releases from here on in not coming with it.

Besides the Moto units don't need to worry about SenseUI

 

[Damn_Smooth]

How about someone who has one?
http://androidforums.com/motorola-s...a-shadow-pre-release-thread-5.html#post923593

And about Snapdragon...
http://androidforums.com/motorola-s...a-shadow-pre-release-thread-4.html#post914753

So it either has the same processor as the drinc, or an ARMV7 Processor Rev 2 (V7i). In googleing the latter, I can find no proof that it is faster or more efficient. And these posts still come from guys on internet forums. Remember when Jake Day gave us root?

 

[ylexot]

Besides the Moto units don't need to worry about SenseUI

But they do need to worry about MotoBlur...

 

[jayjay1122]

But they do need to worry about MotoBlur...

True, true and true...

 

[dguy]

all of the android phones will be running the same software tho, so it just doesn't matter as much. Developers aren't going to create an app for 1 of the many android phones. Maybe it will future proof the droid x for a while longer but otherwise, it simply doesn't matter. PCs are PCs, we're talking about phones here. The circumstances are different. Games will probably launch faster, but not play smoother. And if u look, the nexus one with the snapdragon more than doubled(according to that ridiculous benchmark) when it was upgraded to 2.2.

This reminds me of the speed test for browsers. According to javascript test browsers like google chrome, opera, or safari are multiple times "faster" than firefox and ie but pages might only load a fraction of a second faster.

EDIT: Apparently the word around is that the droid shadow could be launching with android 2.2, not 2.1. So the nexus one with the snapdragon is faster than the motorola shadow with both running 2.2

The circumstances are not different in the least. These devices are portable computers in every regard. They just so happen to have the ability to make phone calls. It's a bit silly to call them just "phones". The only reason the term smartphone is even used is because it's just a name that has stuck, but it's hardly accurate. There will never be a time when computers of any kind will be fast enough to be immune to the progress of software. No matter how advanced a processor gets, more advanced and more demanding(and consequently more productive) software will be created to take advantage of it.

There are already plenty of apps in the Android market that run slowly on lower end Android devices and smoothly on the Snapdragon devices. There will eventually be apps in the future that will run slowly on current modern devices, there's no way around it.

The benchmark I linked was done with the Motorola Droid X(then called Shadow) running on Android 2.1, not 2.2. It running 2.1 is almost as fast as a 2.2 Nexus One. Droid X running 2.2 will score twice as high as what you see in that benchmark.

 

[roninld]

Android Central says it has a 4.4" screen. Either way, that thing is huge!!! I want to see comparisons against the iPad.

Motorola Droid X goes public, official announcement coming next week | Android Central

Edit: I mean Engadget says it has a 4.4" screen.
Here is their link:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/exclusive-motorola-droid-x-preview/

 

[GJJag]

I'm in the same boat eta on DInc is the 30th, i guess i will try the DInc untill the droid X is available on july 19th, not sure if i can handle that monster in my pocket,,lol

Exclusive: Motorola Droid X preview -- Engadget
theres 55pics here, and it says "it undoubtedly has its 1GHz ARMv7 processor (presumably an OMAP3630)"

 

[Dex]

Social networking enhanced UI populated by push based client-architecture widgets such as FaceBook Twitter Myspace etc.

Motoblur - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You should've just said it sucks.

I've had the unfortunate experience of playing with a phone with MotoBlur... and I'd never do it again. Stock Android is functional and has plenty of features. Sense ties everything together in a nice bow. MotoBlur jumbles everything up, but makes it super easy to post a tweet! If you're 16, a girl and just have to be in touch with every possible social network at the same time, THIS IS FOR YOU! If you aren't all, or any, of those things, this isn't going to be a good fit for you. Some of the things that MotoBlur does are almost obnoxious.

Sense may be a little overbearing in places, but it has nothing on MotoBlur. I know that they have said that it won't be MotoBlur, but something like Ninja or ShadowBlur, which are just different configurations of the same thing.

My girlfriend works at Verizon and I got to spend some time with the Devour. The phone sucks, but the OS makes it damn near painful to use. There is probably a walk-through or a forum that is very in-depth on it's benefits. Maybe there is something out there for an enthusiast, but I find it hard to believe.

I love my girlfriend's Droid. Very solid phone, but if they ever wanted to put MotoBlur on it, I'm sure it'd just turn it into a useless brick.

 

[Ginge]

You'll never win playing that game, as there is always going to be a seemingly cooler gadget on the horizon. I prefer the Incredible, the Moto is just too big for my needs and I have really come to love HTC Sense. When I upgrade... probably about a year from now, it's going to be to another HTC Android phone... they are only going to get better.