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General First question... something missing in 2.1 :(

Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by maddawg, Mar 7, 2010.

  1. maddawg

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    1.5 during a call you could hear your own voice in the phone when you talk (forgot the term for this) now after upgrading to 2.1 that feature is gone!

    So now everyone will say why do you need to hear yourself... but that feature keeps you from screaming in to the phone... most cordless and regular phones do this and it is a feature on some cell phones.

    Any chance there's a setting for this that I missed??
     

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  2. OfTheDamned

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    I never had that on 1.5, but others counted it as a bug I think.
     
  3. jj3699

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    Ya, she is right on both accounts
     
  4. nickmnusa

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    Im glad mine doesent do that hearing myself speak while im trying to speak is distracting.
     
  5. TheSultan

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    are you serious? You mean something called "echo"?? And you want it back?
     
  6. jj3699

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    I'm sorry but this post had me rolling on the floor :D
     
  7. Matlock

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    Hello.. Hello.. Hello.. Hello.. *looks at phone* Mom? Mom..? Echo! Echo! *Click*
     
  8. JrzDroid

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    i don't think Echo is a feature on the Eris
    I heard the HTC Incredible Might have Echo though
     
  9. Matlock

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    Is there any real use to having that feature? All I can think of is when you call a radio station and your radio is on the same station and all they can hear is feedback. :p
     
  10. tarponbeach

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    It is called sidetone. I kind of like it, it is very similar to speaking on a landline.
     
  11. pkopalek

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    I've had 4 eris's if you count my girlfriend's, and they all have some echo.

    The point is that if you just get a text or another incoming call, while it is beeping at you, you can notice that the echo is gone. It's not very noticeable until then, but it is there.

    Until 2.1.

    OP is right. I have never experienced this as a bug, just the nature of the phone. Strange that none of you have.
     
  12. DDustiNN

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    I can't stand hearing myself through the phone. It is annoying, distracting, and makes me want to throw my phone at the wall :D

    Thankfully, mine doesn't do that ;)

    My previous phone (RAZR2) did it only when the volume was turned up to the max. I usually have this one on max (unless someone talks way too loud, haha) and have had no problems. Still on 1.5 here.
     
  13. bjanow

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    I thought you lost your girlfriend due to the brick? JK. I would only get echo once in a while, no matter which phone I was using, and would hang up and redial. Echo gone.
     
  14. MOS95B

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    This actually makes sense now.

    "Honey, how come you didn't answer my calls? I missed you, why didn't you answer? Are you avoiding my calls?" (ad naseum)

    "No, of course not. I love getting your phone calls every time I turn around. Hey!! Let me upgrade your phone while you're here!" *brick* "darn...."

    Where's my wife's phone????

    [​IMG]
     
  15. maddawg

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    It's not an echo like when you hit a bad cell connection and you hear yourself on a delay like radio. It just sounds like the voice travels through the headset as you speak, you aren't really hearing yourself but like Tarponbeach mentioned, pick up any landline phone in your house and you will have this feature. Talking on cell w/o it is like talking on a dead phone.
     
  16. n1ghtwish

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    You hear yourself talk, AS you talk... not after, like an echo :)
     
  17. OfTheDamned

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    Ummm I can do that without the phone. ;)
     
  18. leebsammy

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    yeah ..what?
     
  19. jkmasi

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    It seems like folks are not really really getting what the op is trying to get across. I think it's a pretty important feature, actually. Being able to hear your own voice through the ear piece makes for a more natural coversation. When a cell phone does not do this, it feels like you are talking to a block of wood or something.
     
  20. maddawg

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    Here it's explained in wiki... All eris' on 1.5 do it most of you prob just don't realize it...

    In telephony, sidetone is the effect of sound that is picked up by the telephone's mouthpiece and introduced (at low level) into the earpiece of the same handset, acting as feedback. Sidetone in 19th century telephones varied until the carbon transmitter was used which produced a loud sidetone that discouraged speaking loudly enough, and occasionally so loud as to throw the instrument into uncontrolled oscillation or "howling". Anti-sidetone circuitry incorporating the principle of the hybrid coil brought sidetone under control in the early 20th century, leaving enough to assure the user that the phone is really working, and allowing the use of a unitized telephone handset.
    Without sidetone, users do not hear their own voice in the earpiece, and may think the phone is not working. Too much sidetone causes users to hear their own voice loudly. They may feel uncomfortable and lower the level of their voice.
    Digital telephones lack the mechanical acoustics and circuitry that created sidetone in older landline phones, so digital phones include electronic circuitry to reproduce the sidetone. Many cell phones do not provide adequate sidetone.[citation needed] Usability experts believe this causes some people to shout or speak too loudly when using a cell phone.[1][2] Similarly, in military field operations in enemy territory, operatives can be encouraged to speak quietly by increasing the volume of the sidetone.
    Sidetone is useful for people using handsets but can cause audio feedback in teleconferencing systems if not treated properly.
     
  21. carmendiva

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    I thought i was the only one who noticed the "echo" feature or whatever gone.

    When I hear myself talk, it lets me know the call is still connected...sometimes, i check the phone too much because i am thinking the phone has dropped call b/c i cant ever hear myself
     
  22. OfTheDamned

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    I guess I never viewed it as a feature when other phones did that in the past. I always equated it with bad signal. Maybe the final build of 2.1 will being it back, if was supposed to be there to begin with.
     
  23. DocTauri

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    It's more of a passthrough of the mic's audio. I'd equate not having it to talking to someone while plugging your ears. You know you're talking, but the quality of the audio feedback is greatly reduced.

    I miss it as well.
     
  24. 4x4le

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    where I think it is really helpfull is you can hear wind letting you know you need to turn the other direction or get inside ect to stop annoying the person on the other end, and you can hear if your brushing anything up against the speaker such as facial hair.

    Im starting to be very glad I didnt jump on this upgrade like I started to when I just found out about it tonight. Im sure I would have if I wouldnt have been so busy earlier this week and havent heard any of the negatives.

    So is this 2.1 going to have the bugs fixed?
     
  25. vido.ardes

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    That depends on whether HTC see it as a "bug" or not. Although we have established that it was supposed to be there in the first place, HTC may have deliberately removed it, they may not. No one will know until they release it.
     

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