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    Hey guys,
    I have had my HTC Desire since October 2010 and it's a great phone although as everyone is aware the internal memory is very very low. I rooted my Desire with Unrevoked 3 about 2 months ago and i have S-Off I have also experimented with custom ROMs, the ones I have tried are GingerVillain and Oxygen ROM v2. Problem is with stock Desire rom you only have 148mb internal space and when you have a custom ROM you have even less!! Like i had 95mb with gingervillain... Why do custom ROMs leave you with less space? What I want to do is install a new partition table to give me more internal memory, can someone please explain more about this and tell me how to do it, and also how easy is it to revert back to how it was?
    Thanks in advance :D
     

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    Gingervillain uses Dark tremor apps2sd which by default doesn't move the dalvik cache to SD card (SD-EXT).

    The /data partition is 148MB by default. Why oxygen uses up some of the /data partition, I have no idea. Never used it.
     
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    ok then so can i make that data partition more by flashing a custom partition table or any other way?? :)
     
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    did you use dalvik2cache script for oxygen. It moves dalvik to ext and you see more space in internal memory
     
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    no i didnt - maybe i should do that, what i really wanna know how to do is install a custom partition table or just make my user memory more than the normal 148mb :D
     
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    check SUroot's siggy for that
     
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    siggy? whats that? - sorry im a kinda new user :)
     
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    Signature. i.e the bit under my posts.

    You can either flash an alpharev S-off partition table, but personally I dont find any of the ideal. I use the custom partition layout, linked in my sig. Because you can specify the sizes YOU want, not just what the table offers.
     
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    ok oh then :) and how easy is it if i wanna go back to my current layout?
     
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    Not that you would ever want to, but you would have to:


    1. Take a nandroid backup
    2. Flash clockworkmod recovery (unpatched version) using fastboot
    3. nandroid restore
    4. re-Flash rom
    5. Boot
     
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    oh ok :) so after i partition to get more internal space can i then still run my current ROM (Stock 2.2 sense) ? will there be enough space for it?
     
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    Download "Quick system Info"

    Let me know free space for

    "system storage"

    And let me know total space for

    "System Cache" (Sorry can't remember the default), think its 40MB
     
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    ok just cheacking now hold on :)
     
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    ok...
    The free space for system storage is: 6.95mb
    and the total space for system cache is: 40mb
    :)
     
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    You're not going to reclaim much space that way. Using a custom MTD layout, you can get 20MB back.

    What you may need to look at is stripping out the ROM of system apps you do not need or use.

    Since you're S-off, you can do this with root explorer (if you have it) and it is quite easy.

    If you havent, you will have to go the adb route.


    Basically, I recommend cutting the cache partition down to 25MB, then whatever free space you have in system, round that DOWN to the nearest 5MB.

    So for 6.95MB, you can save 5MB
    for 18.25MB, you can save 15MB

    etc etc

    If there isnt much you dont use in the rom, maybe just apps2sd+ (a2sd) is the best way through. You can keep your stock rom, but its tricky. See the Apps2sd+ link in my sig. You have to first enable init.d support on the rom. Then flash a2sd
     
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    ok thanks for your help :) so what would you say is the best custom ROM for me to use (not htc sense)? and currently i am rooted using mod install location to get apps on SD.. so how is that and Apps2SD+ different?? :)
     
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    Mod install location is loosely based around the ability to "move to SD" in froyo. It forces more apps to be installed or moved to the fat partition.

    This doesnt move dalvik cache or all of the app. if you mount the fat partition in your PC, apps will not work. Widgets will not work regardless so have to remain on internal memory

    Apps2sd+ is a script and it uses an EXT partition on the SD card which doesnt get mounted. Dalvik cache does get moved and it creates more space than the above method.
     
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    ok then thanks :) what ROM would u say i should use? :)
     
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    Other than flashing Apps2SD+ to my current ROM, what ROM would u recommend i use that already has Apps2SD+? Also how do i create the apps2SD+ partition on the sd?
     
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    There is a quick guide to partitioning in the apps2sd+ faq linked in my Sig earlier.

    Failing that LECTER has a video guide linked in his Sig.

    What do you want from a Rom? Is sense a must? Teppic74 does a rooted stock with a2sd add on. Or there are desire hd ports like baadnewz that have new sense 2.0 on them

    There are also gingerbread roms with no sense like gingervillain
     
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    well I don't care about sense really at all.. however I wouldn't mind the new sense like on the DHD cos that's quite cool.. if you could tell me the best normal sense rom with apps2sd+, the best sense 2.0 rom with apps2sd+, and the best rom with no sense on it (preferably gingerbread) :)
     
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    My opinion only, but the 3 I said
     
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    ok ill take a look :) so if i use Apps2SD+ will i not need to partition the ROM anymore?
     
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    Possibily not. Try it for a while and see how you get on
     
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    ok then, so will Apps2SD+ be an app in the app drawer that u open and move them to the SD like that? or will it work another way?
     
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