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Root ROOTING For Dummies

Matlock said:
I have been looking for a way to Flash a Kernel without having to use a Computer so you can do things more on-the-fly. Which is mostly the basis of my How To. Easy and Quick with a little knowledge needed as possible.
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flyjbaker said:
I am thinking you could download the kernel straight to your phone and then install as a ROM via ROM manager....ultimately, the ROM manager just does what you explain in your kernel section except it does all that manual stuff for you.....I THINK!!!!!?????
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I have changed kernels, ROMs, and themes on the fly with .zip files that were already on my SD card. No reason (that I can figure) why you couldn't just do as flyjbaker is stating and download a kernel straight to your phone, then flash via ROM manager OR by booting in to recovery and flashing manually. The only thing that I probably would recommend is to get any of your .zip files moved to the root of your SD card, rather than in a folder, but that can easily be accomplished with Astro.
 
bvbull200 said:
I have changed kernels, ROMs, and themes on the fly with .zip files that were already on my SD card. No reason (that I can figure) why you couldn't just do as flyjbaker is stating and download a kernel straight to your phone, then flash via ROM manager OR by booting in to recovery and flashing manually. The only thing that I probably would recommend is to get any of your .zip files moved to the root of your SD card, rather than in a folder, but that can easily be accomplished with Astro.
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In fact when you download straight to your phone, the "download complete"(or successful or whatever) remains in your notification bar. When you select it straight from your notification bar, a window will pop up asking wihether you want to complete the action using Rom Manager or Astro File Manager.......or I would assume any app that would be related would pop up...those are the 2 related apps I have. I selected Rom Manager and then the popup window with "clear cache" and "clear davlik" with their check boxes...pops up. You make your selection and then BAM, you are on your way. Like you said, you do not need to use Rom Manager because you can go straight from the boot loader. But this sure makes it awfully easy. With a wifi connection, you can have a kernel installed in a couple of minutes. A ROM installed in however long it takes to download(highly recommend wifi) and then however long the flash takes.....likely the whole deal in less than 30 minutes. Like I have said before, it does end up in a folder called /downloads but it is selectable thru ROM Manager or the bootloader.

I am in no way saying this is the best way. I am just experimenting with different ways.

YMMV
 
awesome thread.....but is there one like this for the Motorola Droid (original) with the 2.2 update. I keep finding all but this one. Thanks!
 
flyjbaker said:
In fact when you download straight to your phone, the "download complete"(or successful or whatever) remains in your notification bar. When you select it straight from your notification bar, a window will pop up asking wihether you want to complete the action using Rom Manager or Astro File Manager.......or I would assume any app that would be related would pop up...those are the 2 related apps I have. I selected Rom Manager and then the popup window with "clear cache" and "clear davlik" with their check boxes...pops up. You make your selection and then BAM, you are on your way. Like you said, you do not need to use Rom Manager because you can go straight from the boot loader. But this sure makes it awfully easy. With a wifi connection, you can have a kernel installed in a couple of minutes. A ROM installed in however long it takes to download(highly recommend wifi) and then however long the flash takes.....likely the whole deal in less than 30 minutes. Like I have said before, it does end up in a folder called /downloads but it is selectable thru ROM Manager or the bootloader.

I am in no way saying this is the best way. I am just experimenting with different ways.

YMMV
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Right. We are saying the same thing, you are just doing it in a much more comprehensive and detailed way. My only point with moving it to the root of the SD card is that I have read in a lot of different Rooting/ROM/Kernel threads that you should put these files on the root of the card to minimize any errors.
 
bvbull200 said:
Right. We are saying the same thing, you are just doing it in a much more comprehensive and detailed way. My only point with moving it to the root of the SD card is that I have read in a lot of different Rooting/ROM/Kernel threads that you should put these files on the root of the card to minimize any errors.
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The /download folder is on the root of the SD card...I think. When I go to install something from the bootloader, I choose "install .zip from SD card" or whatever that line is and when I make that selection, there is the /download folder. I then select it and that is where you would find things downloaded straight to your phone. I am new to this so I don't know if that would be considered "the root" of the card but it is definitely ON the card....according to the bootloader...and I would imagine if I plug my phone into the computer I could go searching around for it.

ANyway, everything I have done so far has been "wirelessly". And I think my battery tweak has stuck(woohoo). Totally different subject that I will comment on somewhere else but I am excited about the possibilities!!!
 
Thanks Matlock...I have a great boat....a friggin supermodel wife...a great job....and here I am dickin' around with this stupid phone on a beautiful saturday!!!!!
 
The method on page 1 worked fine for me. Took some trial and error to get the wifi tethering working on my 2 laptops, but all is good now.

Thanks Matlock!

BTW, if you know of a simple step by step guide just like yours for the Epic 4G, then I'll do my wifes next.....

All I keep seeing on other Epic root methods is errors and trouble people have...
 
As a dummy, I come her to post.

I have tried 2x now to use the guide up top to root my phone and although it looks like everything is working - it ain't rooting. I did everything EXACTLY like it says, too.

I'm lost.
 
-DRM- said:
As a dummy, I come her to post.

I have tried 2x now to use the guide up top to root my phone and although it looks like everything is working - it ain't rooting. I did everything EXACTLY like it says, too.

I'm lost.
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Is it freezing or not making it past a certain part? Is Unrevoked not running? What stage are you at?

Post some details of what is going on and you will likely get some help. If your phone looks like it just finished a factory wipe, that is what it looks like after completing the rooting process, it is just a rooted stock ROM.
 
bvbull200 said:
Is it freezing or not making it past a certain part? Is Unrevoked not running? What stage are you at
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Unrevoked seems to be working - it goes through the process where I choose USB Boot two times, reboots several times, then the unrevoked screen says "Done".

Everything looks the same, What is the best way to verify I am rooted?
 
chillwill97 said:
I am getting my HTC EVO 4g today. I want my phone to be rooted, is it best to root it while it is fresh out of the box.
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I'd perform all the various updates first - Profile, PRL, etc. Then start the rooting. Good luck! Matlock's guide made it virtually painless for me. :cool:
 
Here is the next Section on the Thread! ENJOY!
The first ROM to be listed is the CyanogenMod!


SECTION 11: BEST DEVELOPER ROMS
BEST DEVELOPER ROMS​

ROM: CyanogenMod
VERSION: 6.1.0-RC1 - Experimental
WEBSITE: CyanogenMod | Android Community Rom based on FroYo.

What dosn't work: 4G / HDMI
Note: This shouldn't come as a surprise since the Android OS hasn't been designed with 4G access, nor an HDMI port. So of course, there isn't an option for it. But rest assure, they will figure a way to use it.

PROS:
* No need for Wireless Tether. A Tethering option is already listed for the Original Android OS which the Nexus1 has.
* NO SENSE UI!

CONS:
* You may need to practice getting used to the Original Android OS before you start feeling comfortable.


First Impressions:

Remember, I am using an Experimental ROM. Not a stable version so some errors may accrue if you download it. I recommend the Stable Version if you decide to go with CyanogenMod.

I was very impressed at how the Developer Team was able to port over the Original Google Android OS to our lovely EVO. I originally had the G1. So it was awesome to see the Original OS on here. (They develop ROMs for many different devices, many of which are Sense UI, but ported with Vanilla Android OS, which is great.) The OS isn't as fancy as the Sense UI is. They pride theirselves on being a 'Non-Sense' UI ROM developers.

The overall feel is excellent how the Original OS is ported to the EVO. The Team even have a special setting to change some of the theme elements of the overall look. Which is nice to be able to tweak.

All of the GOOGLE apps are not pre-installed on this ROM. You'll need to download and Flash them to your device. So don't freak out if the MARKET and GMAIL are not there when you FLASH the ROM. lol, I know I did and forgot that they were not pre-installed.

It's basically Android. No frills, no amazing new features. But it IS Senseless! So FLASH it and enjoy what all of the Team over at CyanogenMod have to offer!
 
Awesome! Are you planning on adding a similar list for other ROMs? You could perhaps get other users to PM you some details about ROMs they are using, so you don't have to put too much effort in to testing all of them.

This thread keeps getting stickier and stickier *cough*modspayattention*cough*
 
bvbull200 said:
Awesome! Are you planning on adding a similar list for other ROMs? You could perhaps get other users to PM you some details about ROMs they are using, so you don't have to put too much effort in to testing all of them.

This thread keeps getting stickier and stickier *cough*modspayattention*cough*
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I am going to try and list as many as I can get to. I am highly enjoying CyanogenMod right now!

lol

Rambler358 said:
This thread has been "tipped" to the mods numerous times, I don't know why they're not stickying it. :confused:
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lol
 
During the step:

Open ROM Manager and click Flash Clockwork Recovery...

I get a pop-up to select my phone. I do this and it says "An error occurred while flashing your recovery". Any suggestions?

The root seems to have taken...at least according to the root program.
 
HeyEng said:
During the step:

Open ROM Manager and click Flash Clockwork Recovery...

I get a pop-up to select my phone. I do this and it says "An error occurred while flashing your recovery". Any suggestions?

The root seems to have taken...at least according to the root program.
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Hmm, odd.

Try going into your Running Applications, force stop ROM Manager.
Uninstall it. Reset your Device then reinstall it and see where that gets you.
 
Ended up having trouble with the wireless access point - as did others it seems. Got it working - but it seems to be picky about the passphrase when encrypting the connection.

Thanks again for this thread - a WONDERFUL resource!
 
So yesterday (without thinking) I applied the Sprint Voicemail (required) update. Since this app is in ROM, did I mess anything up with trying to unroot in the future?
 
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