Android 2.2+ - are we likely to get full camera/video functionality?

[Ascalon]

After getting the 435 update, rooting and pruning out all of the crap on my X10i, it is actually a pretty good phone. Removing Timescape and face recognition has now given me 36 hours or so of moderate usage in terms of battery life.

However, I am eyeing Android 2.2 and higher enviously.

But, as one of the best features of the X10i is the camera/video capability, how likely is it that the current inability of Froyo and Gingerbread ROMs to handle the carema will be addressed?

I know the guys over at XDA developers have done some excellent work, but I'd really like a fully functioning camera before I'd go Froyo or better.

Am I likely to be waiting?

Cheers,
A

 

[wynney666]

Hard to say mate, im running 2.2 using VideoCam Illusion its not perfect but does give video recording. As sony arnt going to take the x10 to 2.2, i would say you would be waiting on the wonderful Devs @ XDA.

 

[Superbrowndude]

Im sure its coming,be patient though.I also use video illusion,but I have two recovery files.One is the official SE 2.1,and the other CM 6.1.3.I switch between them when I want full 720p recording.

 

[powerkiter]

sbd, how long does it take you to switch between the back up roms?

 

[Z3US]

sbd, how long does it take you to switch between the back up roms?

5 minutes...

 

[powerkiter]

Not convenient as a quick switch over then

 

[Superbrowndude]

Well its still pretty sick to be able to switch between roms in 5 mins,I can wait the 5mins for HD

 

[powerkiter]

Oh dont get me wrong just annoying.

I want flash player and I want HD at the same time just gutted it cant be done yet...

gotta love the devs for getting so far though

 

[highaltitude]

yeah, no doubt. We've got 15 ROMs to choose from and NOT 1 is 100% other than stock SE 2.1 (with or without themes)

 

[Superbrowndude]

I think you should be able to down load adobe flash player from the market

 

[Ascalon]

Cheers guys,
my main consideration here is that now that I can see that the X10i is actually a pretty good device when config'ed properly, I would look at holding on to it for a while. Hence, the speed boost available for 2.2+ is very attractive in the longer term, but not at the expense of camera and video capability.

I have every confidence in the XDA Dev chappies, they have done remarkable work already. I reckon I'll sit tight and keep watching the skies! Or at least the XDA Dev forum.

A

 

[Deleted User]

i noticed that every rom released on xda...99% of it works except the camera / video camera.

I was wondering what was the difficulty was in getting them to work???

I really like using the camera so sticking with stock at the minute until a fully functional ROM is released....well until the main parts of the phone are working eg gps, bt, camera etc etc

 

[tdiddy1987]

skyfire browser lets you visit flashsites on stock 2.1 x10 software jus to let you know
i think a select few dont work, but every one i have tried has worked so far
and in relation to ur apparent envy for 2.2, the only difference in the 2 roms that i can see are the beta 2.2s arent 100% functional all the time, not all the components work, but they get higher benchmark scores
but the 2.1 works perfectly well if you tune it properly, and whats the best part about the stock 2.1?
EVERYTHING works, ALL THE TIME

 

[powerkiter]

Diddy, does skyfire work on the bbc and itv catch up sites?

It never used too on 1.6 and it never worked on vimeo.com either. My X10 is still in bits so can't check myself, why can't SE just open the freaking boot loader to us and let us have fully working phones?

@ dibberly, if you want to have a pop at cracking the boot loader and getting 2.2 working then be our guest

 

[Deleted User]

@ dibberly, if you want to have a pop at cracking the boot loader and getting 2.2 working then be our guest

why would i want to do that??

i am happy with stock 2.1, but i just cant see the sense in releasing different roms with the same problem???

whats the point in having a phone that does not work properly??

i really cant see the point in having 1 rom for some stuff and another for the rest

but hey ho...maybe i just like i phone that works as it should!!

 

[redarrow75]

i noticed that every rom released on xda...99% of it works except the camera / video camera.

I was wondering what was the difficulty was in getting them to work???

I really like using the camera so sticking with stock at the minute until a fully functional ROM is released....well until the main parts of the phone are working eg gps, bt, camera etc etc

Camera ius working now on Eminence 2.1.

 

[werthers]

Diddy, does skyfire work on the bbc and itv catch up sites?

I'm not sure about skyfire on bbc and itv but you could always try myplayer to watch iplayer I haven't used it in a while but that used to work, as for itv there's nothing good on it anyway

 

[rosered]

Myplayer doesn't do the Beeb any more, they finally caught up with them. Does do live itv but not seen any catchup.

 

[Deleted User]

Camera ius working now on Eminence 2.1.

but thats 2.1 - not 2.2+ as the topic is on about

 

[CuBz]

Diddy, does skyfire work on the bbc and itv catch up sites?

It never used too on 1.6 and it never worked on vimeo.com either. My X10 is still in bits so can't check myself, why can't SE just open the freaking boot loader to us and let us have fully working phones?

@ dibberly, if you want to have a pop at cracking the boot loader and getting 2.2 working then be our guest

I couldn't get either to work on my Xperia. But I also tried on my DHD and it works for iPlayer (which you probably already know) but when I changed the UAString to desktop, I could also use ITV Player, flawlessly. Which I found strange because ITV Player uses Microsoft Silverlight, not flash, unless they changed it

EDIT: Just did a google search and ITV player has used Flash since 2009, which I was unaware about. I'm a bit gutted now, because I thought I'd be able to watch Sky Player lol

 

[Ascalon]

So, for people using 2.2+, what camera apps have been used in the absence of camera functionality?

Are any good enough to go without the SE stuff?

Cheers,
A

 

[JDwan]

So, for people using 2.2+, what camera apps have been used in the absence of camera functionality?

Are any good enough to go without the SE stuff?

Cheers,
A

From what I've seen, they've either used MIUI camera or the stock Android camera (Vignette shows up from time to time too). Video Illusions is used for the camcorder, from what I've seen.

The camera apps seem to be ok though they seem to have limited functionality compared to SE's camera app but they do allow you to use your camera on the 2.2 ROMs so it's definitely better than nothing.

If you want to use your stock SE camera, I would keep a 2.1 backup kicking around through xRecovery. It takes a few minutes to restore back to it. I have multiple backups of different ROMs right now so I can switch between them when I want.

For instance, I have a 2.1 backup, FreeX10 Beta 4 backup, then backups for mods on Beta 4, WolfBreak's CM6.1.3 ROM backup, then backups for mods or updated versions of it. So I can switch easily between those.

 

[Ascalon]

From what I've seen, they've either used MIUI camera or the stock Android camera (Vignette shows up from time to time too). Video Illusions is used for the camcorder, from what I've seen.

The camera apps seem to be ok though they seem to have limited functionality compared to SE's camera app but they do allow you to use your camera on the 2.2 ROMs so it's definitely better than nothing.

If you want to use your stock SE camera, I would keep a 2.1 backup kicking around through xRecovery. It takes a few minutes to restore back to it. I have multiple backups of different ROMs right now so I can switch between them when I want.

For instance, I have a 2.1 backup, FreeX10 Beta 4 backup, then backups for mods on Beta 4, WolfBreak's CM6.1.3 ROM backup, then backups for mods or updated versions of it. So I can switch easily between those.

Cheers mate, that's useful.

Yeah, I quite like the 6MP wide screen format for the pics in the SE camera app, so I reckon I'll stick with that for a while.

With the Snapdragon optimised JIT on 2.1, I don't think I'm losing too much in the way of performance over 2.2 just yet.

Plus, I am playing with a Nexus S at the moment too and TBH, the camera on it as absolute pants compared to the x10i.

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