[Verizon] [ROM][4.0.4] AOKP ICS B40/M6/Mods (7/8)

[gapi]

Odd is correct in being that it is just you. I assume you made sure you setup your accounts if they reset?

 

[Crudes]

What do you mean "if they reset"?

 

[gapi]

Sometimes a flash will wipe the accounts out and you just need to re-enter them. Not sure if a ROM does that or not.

 

[Crudes]

No, my accounts are up, and active. I can send emails and receive emails but there is definitely something a little odd with the Sync. It seems a little delayed, and I'm not getting my notifications.

Actually, it seems that Gmail only refreshes when I open the application.


I'll keep playing, maybe there is a setting I'm missing but from first glance this really should be good to go.

I do have to say though, battery life is a tremendous improvement over stock

 

[jbdan]

Ok, new odd quirk that I'm finding with this ROM.

I'm no longer recieving any Email notifications! I've checked all my settings, I've made sure it's synching, but I don't get any indication when an email arrives. Is this a "feature" to improve battery performance? Could this be a part of LeanKernel?

I can't tell, but I'm not happy.

When you installed the ROM, what ROM did you come from and what were your exact steps prior to flashing the one you are currently on (assuming 19 is your current?)?

Also, have you tried deleting these problematic email accounts, and re-setting them back up?

The kernel shouldn't have any kind of effect on notifications like this, but I've seen weirder things happen! Really need to know exactly what you did prior to your installation/ aka prior to you having these issues

 

[Crudes]

When you installed the ROM, what ROM did you come from and what were your exact steps prior to flashing the one you are currently on (assuming 19 is your current?)?

Also, have you tried deleting these problematic email accounts, and re-setting them back up?

The kernel shouldn't have any kind of effect on notifications like this, but I've seen weirder things happen! Really need to know exactly what you did prior to your installation/ aka prior to you having these issues

I came from stock, and flashed 19. I also put LeanKernel on with it at the same time.

I just got an email notification (first one since last night!) and honestly, have no idea what change occurred. I'll just have to monitor it because it still seems a little weird. I sent maybe 20 emails to myself (from my work account) testing this. perhaps I wasnt being patient enough, but I only started tinkering with it when I realized I hadn't received any emails since last night, and that never happens.

 

[jbdan]

I came from stock, and flashed 19. I also put LeanKernel on with it at the same time.

I just got an email notification (first one since last night!) and honestly, have no idea what change occurred. I'll just have to monitor it because it still seems a little weird. I sent maybe 20 emails to myself (from my work account) testing this. perhaps I wasnt being patient enough, but I only started tinkering with it when I realized I hadn't received any emails since last night, and that never happens.

OK so one question answered....you came from stock. Good, now, what kind of wiping did you do before your ROM install? Exactly?

Also, I've never flashed ROM then immediately flash a kernel. Especially a custom one such as imoseyons that modifies the ramdisk. IMO, you should flash ROM, then immediately flash gapps (if required and it is with most roms atm), then boot up to home screen. Then reboot back into recovery, wipe dalvik cache and THEN flash your custom kernel. I've had issues doing any kinds of "bulk flashing" all-in-one and prefer to flash one thing at a time unless instructed by the developer to do otherwise (ie. the rom flash then immediate gapps flash).

Until you provide the exact steps you took prior to flashing your present setup it is just about impossible to try and troubleshoot your issues. We want to help you, but help us help you

 

[BabyBlues]

I love the option to rotate 180

 

[Crudes]

Thanks for the tip on how to install the ROM then Kernel. I'll keep that in mind.

I wiped EVERYTHING when I flashed the ROM then GAPPS then Kernel. data/system/cache.

Still having quirks, but it's difficult to explain it since I can't figure out the common factor.

Like just now, I sent myself an email from my work account, waited 5 minutes, never received any notification... opened up my gmail app, and had to click the SYNC button on the bottom. Only then did 2 new emails come in.

 

[jbdan]

Thanks for the tip on how to install the ROM then Kernel. I'll keep that in mind.

I wiped EVERYTHING when I flashed the ROM then GAPPS then Kernel. data/system/cache.

Still having quirks, but it's difficult to explain it since I can't figure out the common factor.

Like just now, I sent myself an email from my work account, waited 5 minutes, never received any notification... opened up my gmail app, and had to click the SYNC button on the bottom. Only then did 2 new emails come in.

So in your settings> accounts and sync> xxx@gmail> you have what you want checked?

Also, settings> more> mobile networks> data enabled is checked correct?

One more thing. Have you tried removing these problematic email accounts and re-add them? I would.

If still having issues with this your other alternative I'd recommend is to re-wipe and re-flash making sure you do it all correctly and thoroughly.

That means:
dnld rom and kernel and put on sdcard
reboot into recovery
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
go to "mounts and storage" and format system
go back
go to advanced
wipe dalvik cache
go back
flash ROM
go back
flash gapps
go back
reboot
let it get to homescreen skip setup or setup if you want
reboot into recovery
go to "advanced"
wipe dalvik cache
flash custom kernel
reboot

 

[Crudes]

So in your settings> accounts and sync> xxx@gmail> you have what you want checked?

Also, settings> more> mobile networks> data enabled is checked correct?

One more thing. Have you tried removing these problematic email accounts and re-add them? I would.

If still having issues with this your other alternative I'd recommend is to re-wipe and re-flash making sure you do it all correctly and thoroughly.

That means:
dnld rom and kernel and put on sdcard
reboot into recovery
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
go to "mounts and storage" and format system
go back
go to advanced
wipe dalvik cache
go back
flash ROM
go back
flash gapps
go back
reboot
let it get to homescreen skip setup or setup if you want
reboot into recovery
go to "advanced"
wipe dalvik cache
flash custom kernel
reboot

I removed my account and re-added it. It worked. Can't believe I didn't do that first, thanks you're a lifesaver

 

[jbdan]

Forgot one more possible cause to your issues. Do you use Titanium backup, and if so, did you restore any system apps and/or data with any apps?

 

[jbdan]

I removed my account and re-added it. It worked. Can't believe I didn't do that first, thanks you're a lifesaver

Well that wasn't too bad now was it

Hope it works out for ya!

 

[Crudes]

Forgot one more possible cause to your issues. Do you use Titanium backup, and if so, did you restore any system apps and/or data with any apps?

Yes, I did restore all my apps with Titanium. What could possibly be the cause here?

 

[jbdan]

Yes, I did restore all my apps with Titanium. What could possibly be the cause here?

When you restored them, or better yet, when you backed them up originally, did you backup "system apps" (they'll be red text instead of white to show you they are system apps)?

My point is do not backup or restore system apps (gmail, email, maps, etc..), only restore 3rd party apps that you have downloaded or bought from the market. As well, when restoring these apps that you installed or paid for, DO NOT restore their data, solely the app itself. This is my opinion from experience only.

 

[Crudes]

When you restored them, or better yet, when you backed them up originally, did you backup "system apps" (they'll be red text instead of white to show you they are system apps)?

My point is do not backup or restore system apps (gmail, email, maps, etc..), only restore 3rd party apps that you have downloaded or bought from the market. As well, when restoring these apps that you installed or paid for, DO NOT restore their data, solely the app itself. This is my opinion from experience only.

Perhaps this is what I did wrong as I'm still finding some strange quirks. Sometimes it acts as if the syncing is manual. When I get home today I'll try re-flashing everything.

Thank you very much for the help. Sorry to be such a bother.

 

[elmerjr128]

As well, when restoring these apps that you installed or paid for, DO NOT restore their data, solely the app itself.

What is the logic behind this? I thought that was the main reason people used Titanium Backup? If you wanted to restore only the app, doesn't Market redownload it automatically for you?

I guess I'm just a bit confused here.

 

[BabyBlues]

Perhaps this is what I did wrong as I'm still finding some strange quirks. Sometimes it acts as if the syncing is manual. When I get home today I'll try re-flashing everything.

Thank you very much for the help. Sorry to be such a bother.

You aren't a bother. The thread is here so we can all ask and learn from one another.

What is the logic behind this? I thought that was the main reason people used Titanium Backup? If you wanted to restore only the app, doesn't Market redownload it automatically for you?

I guess I'm just a bit confused here.

Market will only re download if its a paid app. A lot of people use the data restore on a few apps and are ok. More often than not I see problems when its done as a batch restore though.

 

[jbdan]

Perhaps this is what I did wrong as I'm still finding some strange quirks. Sometimes it acts as if the syncing is manual. When I get home today I'll try re-flashing everything.

Thank you very much for the help. Sorry to be such a bother.

You are not a bother it is my pleasure!

What is the logic behind this? I thought that was the main reason people used Titanium Backup? If you wanted to restore only the app, doesn't Market redownload it automatically for you?

I guess I'm just a bit confused here.

My logic, which is often said to be very construed by my better half , is my experience over the last 2 years using TiBu. It really is just my opinion. Some restore data with no issues. That has not been my experience and ever since then, I don't do it. ymmv.

I think the rationale behind "not restoring the data" within these apps is for troubleshooting purposes. It cancels out another factor in trying to resolve issues. Restoring the data can and often does result in issues....idk why I'm not that well versed on it all, it's probably above my head.

I agree though that is what people pay for with TiBu, but I can't even begin to tell you how many devs I've seen say not to do it and that has been good enough for me. I also can't tell you how many posts I've seen over the last 2 years regarding issues where people restored their data and problems ensue.

I don't use the built in market restore feature that has always been the first thing I uncheck when doing a new flash.

Everyone has their own methods and they all vary in success. So nice to see so much variety!

 

[elmerjr128]

That is really good information to be aware of. Thanks again, ya'll.

 

[Crudes]

You are not a bother it is my pleasure!



My logic, which is often said to be very construed by my better half , is my experience over the last 2 years using TiBu. It really is just my opinion. Some restore data with no issues. That has not been my experience and ever since then, I don't do it. ymmv.

I think the rationale behind "not restoring the data" within these apps is for troubleshooting purposes. It cancels out another factor in trying to resolve issues. Restoring the data can and often does result in issues....idk why I'm not that well versed on it all, it's probably above my head.

I agree though that is what people pay for with TiBu, but I can't even begin to tell you how many devs I've seen say not to do it and that has been good enough for me. I also can't tell you how many posts I've seen over the last 2 years regarding issues where people restored their data and problems ensue.

I don't use the built in market restore feature that has always been the first thing I uncheck when doing a new flash.

Everyone has their own methods and they all vary in success. So nice to see so much variety!

What then, is your methodology when you do a new flash? This was one of my major concerns when I decided to start playing with rooting and roms. That every time I try something new, I would be back to customizing everything all over again. Which in turn would mean that I left most things "half-working".

 

[jbdan]

What then, is your methodology when you do a new flash? This was one of my major concerns when I decided to start playing with rooting and roms. That every time I try something new, I would be back to customizing everything all over again. Which in turn would mean that I left most things "half-working".

I tend to stick to the same ROM once I find something I really like. In this case, it is AOKP. Unless the developer (Roman) says to do a complete wipe, I just do a "dirty flash" which consists of wiping cache partition, formatting system, and wiping dalvik cache. In other words when flashing a newer version of the same ROM you don't have to do a complete wipe, unless told otherwise by the rom maker. Therefore, you lose no apps, data, and settings. You ONLY lose any mods you've flashed and any custom kernels you've flashed. So no TiBu needed in this case.

When Roman says to do a complete wipe between versions, or I move to a new ROM like MIUI for instance, I first make a nandroid. Then I make a TiBu of all my apps, no system apps or data. Then wipe everything, flash new ROM, then do a TiBu restore off all my apps. I have to re-setup my apps (yeah can be time consuming especially if your an app monger), but to me it's worth the trouble and time to do this. It saves me the trouble and time it would take to troubleshoot issues if they arose.

I typically have no more than 30 apps. I know some people have upwards of 100 so in that case I totally understand why some restore their data. I can't imagine re-setting up 100 or so apps after restoring them

The best way to find out if and how it will work for you and your scenario is to just try it. You may not have any issues. But if you do, you now know what one of the culprits could be.

 

[BabyBlues]

I tend to stick to the same ROM once I find something I really like. In this case, it is AOKP. Unless the developer (Roman) says to do a complete wipe, I just do a "dirty flash" ......

And this is where I started giggling. Sorry, had to share.

 

[dacama]

Anyone have issues with the task switcher softkey not working at all?

 

[jbdan]

And this is where I started giggling. Sorry, had to share.

Oh you....