S5 vs HTC one

[Shocky]

Here's a reminder of the OP's initial question:



Perhaps somebody could do him the courtesy of actually addressing it instead of ignoring him to bang on about unrelated stuff? So far there's been zero input related to the OP, and that's simply not acceptable.

Fair enough.

Based on tests the battery life looks great, it should last a little longer than a Galaxy S4 and allot longer than the original HTC One.

Two links for the original poster to look though, we don't have results for the Galaxy S5 yet.

HTC One (M8) battery life test - GSMArena Blog

Samsung Galaxy S4 battery life tests are done, here's how it did - GSMArena Blog

 

[Slug]

Would anyone with other HTC products with a built in battery care to comment, as requested by the OP?

 

[El Presidente]

It depends on what you'll be doing and how strong your signal will be. Whilst signal strength obviously has an impact on battery life for all phones, my personal experience is that the impact of a bad signal is worse on HTC handsets compared to others.

Whilst it wasn't the greatest, the HTC I've had with a non removable battery (the tegra variant of the One X), had enough juice to get me through a 13 hour night shift. That included a bit of gaming, plenty of web surfing and the occasional TV episode.

To be fair, batteries are generally of a higher capacity and the snapdragon in the M8 is a lot more efficient than the Tegra 3 in my old One X.

If you do find it to be an issue, would carrying a portable charger do the job?

 

[EarlyMon]

I currently have the s4 and was planning to upgrade to the s5. I like the new HTC one. My only concern is not having a replaceable battery. When I travel, or not near an outlet, it is very convenient to have an extra battery in my pocket. For those of you with the other HTC products with a built in battery, do you have issues with running out of juice?

Nope.

I'm still using my fixed battery HTC from 2012, the following link takes you to pictures of my phone giving me 8 hours of screen on time. Notice that I did very little in the way of changing from stock to get that.

http://androidforums.com/5640768-post2.html

I've used the heck out of mine, day in, day out, for nearly two years and I still don't need battery service. (I also don't run it hot and then drain it until it dies, that's guaranteed to physically kill batteries.)

You mentioned travel and that's really important - the biggest battery eater I know of is terrible reception. I don't care what other technologies are involved - these things are designed to act as a phone first and will use whatever power necessary to pull that off.

Does your present use require you to change batteries on your SGS4 because of that? Often?

I was scared to go a fixed battery but I have good radio service so its really worked out for me. I won't hesitate to go this route again.

My results are just to address the questions of HTC battery reliability and design quality.

Obviously, everyone's results for actual time will depend on apps you run and whatever is better and whatever is worse in the new crop of hardware, in addition to your reception.

 

[JonathanWhitey]

One M8 is not for me for these reasons in the order of importance.

1. Almost as tall as Note 3 with big bottom bezel.
2. 4.1MP main rear camera without OIS, 4K video.
3. No water resistance.

I did see a video where the HTC was submerged in water for like a couple of hours and absolutely no damage. Just no ip67 rating. I agree with you on the other two, though and I will probably get the s5 for the camera. I don't think that HTC realized that camera is really huge for a lot of users.

 

[Shocky]

I did see a video where the HTC was submerged in water for like a couple of hours and absolutely no damage. Just no ip67 rating. I agree with you on the other two, though and I will probably get the s5 for the camera. I don't think that HTC realized that camera is really huge for a lot of users.

Post back in month and tell us if there any issue with the device.

 

[JonathanWhitey]

Post back in month and tell us if there any issue with the device.

I'm not saying that you should purposely put the m8 in water but it appears that it could handle an accidental drop into a toilet. . S5 would definitely hold up better.

 

[Cobravision]

http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-one-m8-waterproof-361910/

"Even if the device might go apparently unscathed through an immersion, it

 

[raylo32]

Do either of these new phones support Bluetooth Smart/Ready that will work with devices like Wahoo fitness bicycle trainers or Kwikset Kevo bluetooth locks? I REALLY don't want to switch to an iPhone to gain this functionality that my Galaxy S3 lacks.

 

[saltyduck]

IMO the HTC One is no contest. Since Verizon is being an absolute prick about releasing any information about the S5 because of the HTC One I went and gave it a look. No thanks. It's camera has got nothing on the HTC One. I like the durability of the S5 too. I am real rough on my phones.

 

[REEF]

I have played around with both the M8 and S5, and the S5 is the hands down winner. I really wanted the M8 as every smartphone I've ever owned has been an HTC. I like HTC's design and lobe Sense UI. But, HTC dropped the ball on this one. The M8 may be built very well but it has some major flaws. HTC did away with the physical buttons and now has soft keys on screen. When you redactor the use able part of the screen its only as large as an EVO LTE. On top of that its as tall as the Note 3. The phone is responsive and works very well, but its too large for the small screen it supports. To top it all off it has a mediocre camera.

The S5 is built well and responsive. The camera is sharp and 4K video looks great. The S5 has physical buttons so it has more screen space to offer than the M8. The S5 also feels better in hand and has a wider screen which makes it easier to view websites.

For those who don't know, select Best Buy locations have S5's on display. Each store has two fully functional S5's. You can go on the Best Buy site and see what stores on your area have it.

 

[Unforgiven]

Duplicate topics of the OP merged. I did a quick scan and things line up pretty well following the merge. If something looks weird, hit report and we will get it cleaned up. Thanks.

 

[Ken7]

Each store has two fully functional S5's. You can go on the Best Buy site and see what stores on your area have it.

Well, so as not to alarm anyone that goes to BB, the display units are 'fully functional', but with incomplete and buggy software. The final production units should be fine.

 

[Shocky]

Looks like Displaymate got hold of Galaxy S5. Looks like a excellent display.

The Galaxy S5 has the latest evolution of Samsung OLED displays since we tested the Galaxy Note 3, which launched in October 2013, and the Galaxy S4, which launched in April 2013. Those results together with the Lab tests and measurements below show that the Galaxy S5 display is a major improvement over the Galaxy S4 and a significant improvement over the Galaxy Note 3 in almost every single test and measurement category, which we cover below.

"The Galaxy S5 delivers 22 percent higher Brightness on a larger screen with the same display power."

"The display on the Galaxy S5 is 27 percent more Power Efficient than the display on the Galaxy S4. This increase is due to more efficient OLED materials and also to improvements in the display electronics and optics."

"The Galaxy S5 has the Highest Brightness and Best Contrast Rating for High Ambient Light that we have ever measured."

"The Galaxy S5 is effectively tied for first place with the Galaxy S4 for the lowest Screen Reflectance (4.4 percent) for any mobile display that we have ever tested."

Samsung Galaxy S5 Display Technology Shoot-Out

 

[REEF]

S5 beats the M8 camera by a mile. This here is 1080P vs 1080P. The S5 can go up to 4K. When I used the S5 it functioned great in 4K.

Samsung Galaxy S5 vs HTC One M8- Camera Test - YouTube

 

[Hadron]

To return to the original question, I've been using the M7 for a year with no battery concerns. Obviously it depends on usage (you'll use a lot less power reading ebooks than gaming, and even less sitting on standby) and coverage. But I'll second what Early said: avoiding "bad" behaviour such as running the phone hot until the battery is empty, there's no noticeable loss of endurance over the year.

On other things, it depends what's important to you. For example, I've used my phone (any phone, not just the M7) to take videos precisely twice ever, so for me the ability to take 4k video is utterly irrelevant. For REEF I would guess it's important. YMMV, as they say

 

[EarlyMon]

Do either of these new phones support Bluetooth Smart/Ready that will work with devices like Wahoo fitness bicycle trainers or Kwikset Kevo bluetooth locks? I REALLY don't want to switch to an iPhone to gain this functionality that my Galaxy S3 lacks.

While the camera and other comparisons seem to have no end in sight, does anybody have some info to help out with the Bluetooth question?

 

[REEF]

To return to the original question, I've been using the M7 for a year with no battery concerns. Obviously it depends on usage (you'll use a lot less power reading ebooks than gaming, and even less sitting on standby) and coverage. But I'll second what Early said: avoiding "bad" behaviour such as running the phone hot until the battery is empty, there's no noticeable loss of endurance over the year.

On other things, it depends what's important to you. For example, I've used my phone (any phone, not just the M7) to take videos precisely twice ever, so for me the ability to take 4k video is utterly irrelevant. For REEF I would guess it's important. YMMV, as they say

I don't care about 4K video. In every comparison out the the S5 beats the M8s camera by a wide margin. The S5 also supports USB 3.0 where the M8 does not. The S5 is also faster than the M8, as evidenced today by HTC's admitting that they cheated in benchmarks.

So, the S5 has:

-Better display
-Better camera
-larger display(due to no soft keys)
-removable battery
-USB 3.0
-smaller than the m8
-is faster than m8 in benchmarks
-water resistant, dust proof

And a few other advantages that I can't think of at the moment.

 

[EarlyMon]

While the camera and other comparisons seem to have no end in sight, does anybody have some info to help out with the Bluetooth question?

^^ That's a hint.

Please help if you can so the question doesn't get buried.

Thanks.

 

[REEF]

Do either of these new phones support Bluetooth Smart/Ready that will work with devices like Wahoo fitness bicycle trainers or Kwikset Kevo bluetooth locks? I REALLY don't want to switch to an iPhone to gain this functionality that my Galaxy S3 lacks.

"Speaking of sensors, the new S5 will connect to both Bluetooth Smart and ANT+ sensors.* Of course, it

 

[Hadron]

So I've looked it up for the HTC: the official specs list Bluetooth 4.0 (aka Bluetooth Smart), and bluetooth.com lists the One and One Max as having this (so you might assume the One M8 as well).

Of course BT 4 support doesn't necessarily mean that a specific device will work, only that it could if the manufacturer provided the software support. For example, Fitbit list the HTC One (M7 and M8) as well as the Galaxy S4 explicitly. Wahoo don't mention any Android device, just iPhone and iPad (searching their site for Android returns no results, though there's one reference to Samsung - it says the S3 will fit one of their armbands!). Kwikset say explicitly that while they have plans to support android they currently only work with iPhones. So if a particular application is important you should check that first, or be willing to take a chance on Android support. However, as both support BT 4 then when/if android support for a device is provided it should work on either.

 

[Slug]

The S5 is also faster than the M8, as evidenced today by HTC's admitting that they cheated in benchmarks.

Something which Samsung never did, of course. Oh wait....

HTC and Samsung weren't the only ones "at it" either, so right now benchmarks are a pretty discredited method of judging a devices' real-world performance.

 

[EarlyMon]

Yeah, when the benchmark cheating story broke, Samsung was the first one caught.

My benchmark - is it faster than me?

 

[Shocky]

Yeah, when the benchmark cheating story broke, Samsung was the first one caught.

My benchmark - is it faster than me?

Samsung scores are now legit, they listened to complaints and removed the "optimizations", now HTC need's to do the same.

3DMark has delisted the HTC One M8 which isn't a surprise given the HTC One was also delisted.

HTC defends its optimizations saying, "Benchmarking tests look to determine maximum performance of the CPU and GPU."

This is a common misconception. The purpose of 3DMark, as with other Futuremark benchmarks, is not to measure maximum performance but to measure real-world performance. To do that, a device must run the benchmark as if it were any other application.

When a device detects 3DMark, and modifies its behaviour as a result, the benchmark scores are no longer accurate and cannot be used to make fair comparisons between devices.

We recently commended Samsung for removing the benchmark boosting effect from the Galaxy S IV and the Galaxy Note III. We hope this delisting will help persuade HTC to join them and realize the benefits of being fair and honest with their customers.

It's allot harder to get away with cheating now, thanks to Antutu's new benchmark cheaters stand out allot, it only loses over 10,000 in the final scores, nobody was going to notice that HTC. :banghead:

I guess HTC don't want customers to know the HTC One M8 is slower than their competitors.

 

[Slug]

Samsung scores are now legit, they listened to complaints and removed the "optimizations"

They didn't "listen to complaints", they were caught red-handed trying to fool end users, got called for it, and had to eat crow.

3DMark has delisted the HTC One M8 which isn't a surprise given the HTC One was also delisted.

Hmm, selective memory....?

Major benchmarking service delists Samsung and HTC phones it suspects of cheating

Maybe we should wait for the S5 to be thoroughly tested before throwing stones, just in case.