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Root Leaked (un)Official ATT ICS for the Galaxy Note I717

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  1. Mr. Ed

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    Left handed spen use is not working.

    Sent from my SGH-I717D using Tapatalk 2 Beta-5
     
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    Great news and looks positive, but way too early to jump into for immediate daily usage, if the Note is your daily driver.

    I think I'll give this a couple of weeks before flashing....

    Thoughts?

    -Ryan
     
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    I'm so tempted to install this! But this leak gives me hope that the final official release will be out very soon.

    If we install this leaked version, will we be able to also install the official version when it comes out?
     
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    Sure you will. Because this was actually leaked for our device (i717), it's just a matter of flashing a zip file through CWM which means you'll also be able to revert back to whatever you're running now or flash to stock if you want.

    However, if you're rooted, getting OTA's pushed to your device might be broken, though I've heard this isn't the case across the board, and that if you for some reason prefer carrier OTA over dev-built ROMs (even though dev-built ROMs are bloat-free and packed with other goodies the OTA's dont come with), then check over on XDA to see who else has had success working around root to continue getting OTA firmware updates.


    -Ryan
     
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    You mention CWM... don't you need to be rooted to use that? Looks like you don't need to be rooted to install this leak, but I need CWM to restore phone before I can get the official update? Can you explain? Thanks!
     
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    No, actually you don't need to be rooted to install CWM. It's flashable using Odin and then whether you want to root or not is up to you.

    [RECOVERY] AT&T Stock boot and recovery - Page 2 - xda-developers

    In the OP, there's a zip file specifically for recovery installation for non-rooted devices.

    -Ryan
     
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    Wow, the installation instructions for this is very vague! I understand the installation is a 1-click exe, so that makes it really easy. But does it include CWM? Do I need to install CWM beforehand? (all places that explain installing CWM are part of a tutorial of first rooting)
     
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    The link I provided you below will install recovery.

    I did not go this route myself because I was rooted first, but I believe the process is the same: Open Odin, click the "PDA" button which will prompt you to install a file (which is probably a .tar file) that Odin will then execute/install/inject into your existing system, giving allowing you to from that point forward boot into recovery.

    You'll know this works (other than Odin telling you the process has completed successfully) by powering the device down and then holding in both volume buttons while you also hold in the power button. When the "Samsung" splash screen appears, release ONLY the power button and continue holding down both volume buttons until you see the recovery screen.

    For more info, pop over to XDA and search the Q&A forum.

    -Ryan
     
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    Thanks for the info. I'll probably give this a shot today. :)
     
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    This is not really up to par for what I need as a daily driver. Biggest thing for me is the no left handed SPen, as I am left handed. :p

    I think I will let this bake on the scene for a while and keep track of Dev work, OR, wait for official with the Premium Suite. :D
     
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    now that a couple of devs have flash-able zips I would go that route personally.

    flash cwm, backup current rom, flash away


    as a daily though, I am not having issues with it...but I'm ambidextrous
     
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    For anyone needing steps here you go

    Please know that flashing this is hacking your phone, it will trigger a flash counter and your warranty is 100% gone with no way to get it back. If you do not mind losing that, than continue.

    Like I said before, this is a 1 way road that you cannot undo or go back from. Plus you will most likely lose any OTA updates in the future. Some users say "yes you will be able to update" but to be honest, since there is no update to test that against, it is only a guess. And so you have to ask yourself, is it worth the risk? I just hope I am wrong on this count

    Good luck
     
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    If you are looking tp update you really should look at this thread:
    ICS 4.0.3 Leak Bugs/Application Problem List - xda-developers

    I was thinking about it until I read that thread.

     
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    Mods are available to reset flash counter, so while Samsung would still know you did SOMETHING to the device, they couldn't prove a firmware flash.

    Hence, warranty should not be auto-voided just by rooting/flashing ROMs ;-)
     
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    If they know you flashed the phone, your warranty is gone. If you flash the stock firmware and reset the counter, they may be nice and look past what you last flashed, but from my past dealings with Samsung they will use any excuse they can to not warranty a phone including looking to see if it was flashed.

    The only way to know for sure, is to hear from someone that has flashed their phone, reset the counter and sent it in for warranty.

    So then the question anyone planning on flashing needs to ask, is possibly loosing my warranty on a $800 device worth flashing ICS?
     
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    I'm not saying I don't believe you personally, but the other quote you cited above is hard for me to believe because after all, what then would ever be the point to resetting your flash counter, and why would devs have gone to the trouble of building a flashable zip file for flash counter reset?

    Just seems odd is all...

    Would be a big help if someone came forward, who's ever gone through the entire process with an actual warranty success story despite having a rooted device.



    -Ryan
     
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    Also, this is direct from XDA, which I found just by searching "flash counter" in the Q&A thread over there:

    Originally Posted by .......
    Q: ...Flashing also increases flash counter and voiding warranty(go learn how to reset it)

    A: Nope. No one to our knowledge has ever actually been denied a warranty claim because of the counter.

    Now, I'm not saying that this info is any more factual than what others have mentioned in this thread, but at the very least, there doesn't seem to be definitive proof anywhere that a tripped flash counter will ABSOLUTELY result in a voided warranty, and this even without bothering to reset the counter!

    Just saying this whole topic might be a bit of techy urban legend is all....

    -Ryan
     
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    And check this out; it appears we do have some first-hand experience from someone in an SGS2 thread on THIS very forum!!!-


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by alekia
    I sent my Prevail in to Samsung that had been rooted previously, though I was able to use Odin to unroot. They were not able to tell it had been rooted before. I'm not sure though how in-depth their testing and checking goes.

    Granted, this does not speak to the "flash counter reset" topic at all, but it does certainly show that Samsung doesn't seem to typically put warranty claims under a microscope, with purposeful intent to deny them. Also, this post was made in the fairly recent past (Oct/Nov of last year, so within the last 4-6 months), so I'd imagine the info is still pertinent.

    So there is an answer, and it is a good one for those of us looking to flash ICS and still at least have a reasonable amount of hope that our warranty will be upheld if needed :)

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    Hmmm, this thread is steering me away from updating. I need to be 100% sure I can get a real OTA update, and to do it without a lot of trouble. As much as I want ICS, I think I'll just wait for the official one. Probably less of a headache in the long term. :)
     
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    Not sure why this was moved, root is not required to run this....nor is it required to get back to stock.


    As for the squeamishness...it's ok to play it safe for sure, but I am a power user and have had no issues using this as a daily driver.

    Not one person has reported having issues with being denied warranty with ticks on the flash counter, I myself have exchanged 3 phones with ticks on the flash counter with no issues.

    Now that there is a way to reset the counter it's even more insurance that there would be no issues.

    Just like the thread says..is it still possible to tell, yes..is samsung going to put forth the resources to do that on phones that come in...highly doubtful.


    as for OTA worries...the process is easily reversed by running Odin and returning to stock state....but like I said, there is no harm in playing it safe.
     
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    How would I return to stock if I wanted to after flashing this via Odin? You touched on all my questions though, thanks!
     
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    Mr. Ed,

    Looks like it got moved yesterday since its does, on the surface, really look like a root-related thread (lots of root-related terms all over the place in here).

    I do know that there are a few devices where you can do stuff like this without actually needing to be rooted.

    I think the best rationale for whether to move it back to the main Galaxy Note LTE forum would be to ask if would you necessarily want folks that are not actively seeking root-related actions (as discussed above) or those that don't typically have root-related knowledge or experience, to attempt the things discussed in this thread?

    I'm happy to move it back if you would like, but it might be best to put some kind of disclaimer and explanation in the first post about the possible pitfalls and dangers, etc.

    Just let me know :).

    Thanks!

    edit: I also have heard about a member that needed to root first with the Odin exploit in order to install ICS via this method; I'm guessing there might be work-arounds, but there's enough root tasks in here that this thread should probably remain in the ATR area. Thanks!
     
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