My final thread

You'll be missed your contributions here are greatly appreciated. So long Friend

 

I'll miss you Chris, um Charles.

 

Do we actually have any proof and sources for this? And how do we know that the NSA didn't write any code for Apple, Microsoft and Blackberry?

Shouldn't be any NSA code, like backdoors, in the open source code for Android that device makers and ROM devs use. Because anything fishy should be immediately obvious. The Google apps themselves are proprietary, like Play and Chrome, and could conceivably contain NSA code. But then so could iOS and Windows Phone, because those are completely proprietary.

 

Thanks for your contributions to the site man

Good luck in your future endeavors, and feel free to come back and visit us if you really want to!

 

AFAICT this is about Security Enhanced Linux(SELinux), and how it affects Android(Security Enhanced Android), and not about backdoors and not about the NSA having access to your private information....and to try and keep China out In this case my laptops are running NSA code, they've got SELinux. Which I'm OK with, if it makes me safer from Chinese hackers, that's a good thing IMO. One reason why I stopped using Windows, because Microsoft co-operates with Beijing for backdoor access to their software and spying on users.

China mostly does it's own thing with Android anyway, quite outside of Google's control. And many Chinese device makers have their own flavours and forks of Android, e.g. Meizu's Flyme. We've even had a couple of posts on here about Chinese Android tablets with CPC government censoring in them that were purchased in Shanghai, they couldn't get Facebook and Youtube when in the UK.

Oh yeh Google collects data OK, I know that. But AFAICT this is not about giving the NSA easy access to it via Security Enhanced Android and SELinux. Bottom line is, seems the NSA is trying to keep you safe from Chinese hackers and other undesirables.

 

Just because you don't have an Android device doesn't mean you have to be a stranger.

As for the "NSA Code". As was noted in the Businessweek article, the code is open-source and the NSA additions are presumably added to the public part of the code base. If there was something in there for "spying", it would have been put out there already by outsiders that review the code after its release. Look at the next-to-last paragraph, the NSA has previously added their security enhancements to Linux and the changes have been peer-reviewed by a lot of people, with no hint as to any eavesdropping.

Nothing is stopping China from reviewing the source code for Android and drawing their own conclusions.

Sure it's a complacent attitude and I guess it's the start of some of this, but I have nothing to hide. They shouldn't be able to use anything they gather from my communications without a court-order anyway, and that would then allow them to get anything they want based on the court-order.

 

Absolutely! See you in The Lounge chrlswltrs. :thumb:

 

You'll be missed

The P&CA section's going to be completely dead

Good look with your 5S - my missus is very happy with hers. Have to admit that, whatever people may say, the fingerprint thing is kinda cool.

And even better luck (though I think it's miracles you'll require) avoiding the scrutiny of the NSA .. and Google

 

Whos going to back me up when I get in a heated gun control debate!? You'll be missed here, you had a good strong opinion, and you were never afraid to voice it.

Have a good one!

 

I can't comment on that.

 

It's sad that chrlswltrs is leaving us. I hope you're treated well by iOS, though maybe Android wil come up with something that will draw you back.

Let's try to scale back the political talk eh? It's not really thread for that prupose. .

 

Sorry to see you go, Charles, but hopefully you'll pop in from time to time as RL permits. Just remember that there's much more to AF than just Android discussions!

 

Awww, sad to see you leave the community. I didn't know that the NSA actually wrote code for Android... Wow, That's awful. But there is a lot of crappy things with the American Government that most of us cannot stand. This isn't the political thread, so no need to start a debate.

But then again, this is America, and we don't have the freedom or privacy that was promised in the Constitution by our Founding Fathers.

 

stay safe brother man.

 

Later man. Hope you make it by once in awhile if for no other reason than to say whattup.

 

Good luck...I'm sure Apple will not let the NSA invade our privacy! I do understand about tinkering with the system. I've gotten that way about using Linux. I just stop tinkering and started using it.

 

cool. take care man.
hope you love on that side of the fence..

can you come back and give an update in this thread.. after a few months with the new toy?

if you do come back... please post in this thread..

 

Once you buy into iOS you belong to Apple - and they're way more powerful than any mere government

 

I agree. Apple has more power than the government. Or close to it.