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Help Possible Battery Fix from HTC
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Everyone knows 3G and 4G consume more battery than WiFi. CDMA networks are naturally power hungry because the cell phone constantly searches for the best signal.
If the phone drains at 1% an hour while idling and no radios on there is nothing wrong with the phone.
I hate when people say I have everything off on my phone. Then I look at their phone and its setup like crap or the person doesn't know what they are talking about. Females are the worst I have learned! If you have apps sending, receiving, and syncing while you have 3G on all at the same time, that consumes battery.100% of the time people have apps setup to run they don't even use!
If you could add, the stock battery will give you about 4 hours of pure internet time. I use a 1750mah battery so mine gets me 6 hours. Anyway, using the phone for 30 minutes on the internet should decrease your battery by about 15%. If you do the math that's about 4 hours...3 hrs and some change to be exact. My phone drains at 25% per every 1hr 30mins of straight internet usage via WiFi.
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out. My laptop gets me 2hrs and 30 mins on one charge. But my EVO gets me 6 and I can do everything on my EVO that my laptop does. Stop complaining and use a laptop or get an iPhone.
If the phone drains at 1% an hour while idling and no radios on there is nothing wrong with the phone.
I hate when people say I have everything off on my phone. Then I look at their phone and its setup like crap or the person doesn't know what they are talking about. Females are the worst I have learned! If you have apps sending, receiving, and syncing while you have 3G on all at the same time, that consumes battery.100% of the time people have apps setup to run they don't even use!
If you could add, the stock battery will give you about 4 hours of pure internet time. I use a 1750mah battery so mine gets me 6 hours. Anyway, using the phone for 30 minutes on the internet should decrease your battery by about 15%. If you do the math that's about 4 hours...3 hrs and some change to be exact. My phone drains at 25% per every 1hr 30mins of straight internet usage via WiFi.
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out. My laptop gets me 2hrs and 30 mins on one charge. But my EVO gets me 6 and I can do everything on my EVO that my laptop does. Stop complaining and use a laptop or get an iPhone.
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So what's wrong with my phone lol. I have 4G, WI-fi, GPS all turned off. I have everything turned off when it comes to syncing. Turned off always data on option, have also turned down the brightness to about 20% but after doign all of that still didn't gain my any battery life. I do know that my phone always says i'm using 50% or more using cell standby. I'm not sure how to fix that but that's what i've done so far.
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LOL, give your phone to someone who can adjust your settings because you are not understanding what we are saying. It's you, the user. I have 4 EVOs in my office and they have excellent battery life.
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You can leave GPS/WiFi on all day long and it won't drain the battery from my testing. If those radios are not sending or receiving data or trying to obtain a GPS lock, the battery will continue to drain at 1% an hour while in idle mode.
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You guys are rough in this forum, but I like it. I was using a sprint website/forum and some people made me want to slit my wrists. I felt like the bear in the YouTube video. I'm like take a few minutes and go through your settings. Talking about Android bandwagon jumpers.
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I'm going to give you one of my 20 battery tips. I want you to open the Sprint Zone app and tell me what your update frequency is set to for the app. This will clue you in on how you must proceed.
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Its set to everyday. But when i first turn my phone on i use ATK so that nothing is running in the background and never use that program again.
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I work in a flying squadron and 4 people in my office have an EVO. I went through all of the battery draining app settings and widgets with everyone. I received thanks from everyone after tweaking their phones.
First problem, using ATK. Screws up the phone and DRAINS BATTERY BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS RUNNING! Does it make sense to you to have an app monitoring apps and killing apps as Froyo is monitoring those same apps but closing them? Why not have two doctors you visit or two mechanics you visit for your car too?
Secondly, I keep hearing females say I don't use that app. I don't care whether you use the app or not the Sprint Zone has access to send/receive data everyday. Why not set the app to send and receive once a month opposed to everyday, then you don't need to kill the app? This is just common sense to me, but not to people who are clueless and using ATK.
First problem, using ATK. Screws up the phone and DRAINS BATTERY BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS RUNNING! Does it make sense to you to have an app monitoring apps and killing apps as Froyo is monitoring those same apps but closing them? Why not have two doctors you visit or two mechanics you visit for your car too?
Secondly, I keep hearing females say I don't use that app. I don't care whether you use the app or not the Sprint Zone has access to send/receive data everyday. Why not set the app to send and receive once a month opposed to everyday, then you don't need to kill the app? This is just common sense to me, but not to people who are clueless and using ATK.
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well i even uninstalled ATK and it made my battery worse due to having everything running in the background due to turning the phone off and then back on. So i now use ATK and seems to get me better battery life
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Dude, I'm done explaining things to you. After uinstalling ATK, reboot the phone. Android has to fix everything ATK messed up! Android can't fix it overnight. Android is like a sensitive food chain, kill off one species and you can reak havoc on the rest of the food chain. Kill off processes and apps in Android and your phone will turn to crap. Only phones running anything below Android 2.0 need a task killer.
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Maybe it's not your phone itself, but a defective battery? It might be worth going to Sprint (or wherever you bought it from) and telling them what's going on. Almost not matter what you're doing, seven hours of battery life is not normal.
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Have you ever heard the saying that there's no good excuse for bad manners?
How about we all get together and play the game of helping one another rather than slagging?
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-4g/98274-zero-tolerance-policy-all-members-read.html
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yes please repost....i was in the middle of heeding your advice when the site went down....
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Not exactly, but the effect was much the same. See this thread for the gory details. We've basically lost a day.... apologies but it was a combination of circumstances beyond AF's control.
@ ALL:
As you can imagine this is a very stressful time for the staff, and tempers will be shorter than usual. So please make an extra effort to keep posts respectful and within the Rules, as the mods are likely to take a dimmer-than-usual view of rudeness.
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I too would like to see the post again. I was trying to refer to it, to help friends of mine who also have battery issues with their EVO and HERO.
And yes Slick's advice also works on the HERO.
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Very Important Tweaks (NOT ROOTED AND NOT USING ANY TASK KILLERS):
FOLLOW ALL OF THESE STEPS. I WILL EXPLAIN WHY AT THE END. If you don't use the apps I'm talking about, it doesn't matter. You must set up these apps accordingly.
First, 3G and 4G utilizes the most battery because CDMA phones always seek out the best signal. CDMA networks won't give you great battery life but you will have great call quality because the phones are constantly searching for the best signal.
IF YOU ARE NOT USING 3G, LEAVE THE 3G RADIO OFF. IF YOU ARE IN A BAD COVERAGE AREA, A LOW SIGNAL WILL DRAIN YOUR BATTERY ON A CDMA NETWORK.
Yes, 3G and 4G use more battery than Wifi! Use Wifi if its available and Sprint is working on changing the software so 4G isn't as power hungry.
ANIMATED WALLPAPER:
If you are not close to a power source DO NOT USE ANIMATED WALLPAPERS. ANIMATED WALLPAPERS CONSUME BATTERY POWER. I use them when I want to show off my phone or if I know I won't be out for long.
WIDGETS:
Widgets that need access to the internet in order to update themselves WILL CAUSE BATTERY DRAIN depending upon how often you have the app set to update the widget via the internet. Every app/widget is different but the following widgets need access to the internet: The stock clock/weather widget, any weather widgets, Friendstream, Facebook, News, News & Weather, Sprint Football Live, Stocks, Twitter, Mail, Nascar, and the Market. (For the time being DO NOT USE ANY OF THESE WIDGETS. I WILL EXPLAIN WHY AT THE END OF THIS POST. I WOULD JUST REMOVE THESE WIDGETS FROM YOUR SCREENS FOR NOW.)
SETTINGS:
Menu - Settings - Wireless & Networks "4G, HOTSPOT, 3G means Mobile Network, BLUETOOTH, Wifi - Turn off these radios by unchecking the boxes (Turn on when/as needed)
Menu - Settings - Location - "Uncheck USE GPS satellites box"
Menu - Settings - Wireless & Networks - 4G Settings - "Uncheck the Network Notification box if not already unchecked." In order to uncheck the box you have to turn on 4G, then uncheck the box. Remember to uncheck the 4G box. What does this do? It stops your phone from scanning on its own for a 4G signal, which drains battery. When you turn on 4G, the phone will locate the 4G network on its own.
Menu - Settings - Wireless & Networks - Wifi Settings - "Uncheck the Network Notification box." In order to uncheck the box you have to turn on WiFi, then uncheck the box. Remember to uncheck the Wifi box. What does this do? It stops your phone from scanning on its own for a Wifi signal, which drains battery. When you turn Wifi on, the phone will find all the available Wifi hotspots on its own.
Menu - Settings - Sound - "Uncheck Haptic Feedback box"
Menu - Settings - Display - Brightness - "Set Brightness to about 30-40% depending on your eyesight" (Using Automatic Brightness consumes more battery because the feature utilizes a sensor, especially when you are browsing.)
Menu - Settings - Display - Screen timeout "Set to 1 minute"
Menu - Settings - Display - Animation - "Set to No Animation" (This does not cut off your weather animation folks. I have yet to see what it affects.)
Menu - Settings - Accounts & Sync - "Uncheck Auto sync box"
All sync circles should go from green to gray, meaning syncing is no longer active for the following: Weather, News , Stocks, Google
- Tap News - Account settings - Update Schedule - "Set to Manual"
- Tap Stocks - Account settings - Update schedule - Should be gray in color meaning its not turned on/active
- Tap Weather - Accounts settings - Set to minimum usage for your use! (Once a day is all I need)
I leave background data checked so I don't have to always check the box in order to enter the market app. Since we turned all syncing basically off, background data will not cause any problems.
Open Mail App - Menu - More - Settings - Send & Receive - Set Frequency for Peak & Off peak times to "ONCE A DAY"
- Menu - More - Settings - General Settings - "Check Refresh upon Open box" When you open your mail app it will automatically download your mail upon opening. You don't have to use this function if you only check your mail once a day because that is what we set the mail app to do. But if you check your mail more than once a day, check the box so you control your battery consumption by manually checking your mail.
Open Fring App if you have it - Make sure you are signed out and logged off when closing. Menu - Settings - "Uncheck Automatic Startup"
Open Sprint Zone App - Menu - Settings - Set Update Frequency "Select Every month"
Open News App - Menu - Settings - Set Update schedule - Make sure it says "Manual"
Open Stocks App - Menu - Settings - Make sure Auto Sync data and Update Schedule boxes are grayed out and no check in the Auto Sync Data box exist. Uncheck the "Update when Opened box" if you do not use the stocks app. If you use this app, its basically set to manually refresh upon opening if you leave the box checked.
Open Weather App - Menu - Settings - Ensure Update Automatically Box is Unchecked. This will allow you to refresh your homescreen clock/weather widget by hitting the refresh button in the lower left screen of the weather app.
Open Talk App - Menu - Settings - "Uncheck Automatically sign in box" and make sure you sign out. Do not back out, SIGN OUT
Open News & Weather App - Menu - Settings - Refresh Settings - "Uncheck Auto-refresh box" Now you can manually refresh your weather opposed to the app doing it for you and depleting your battery.
I DO NOT USE FACEBOOK, FRIENDSTREAM, OR TWITTER SO IF THOSE APPS HAVE SEND/RECEIVE SETTINGS YOU MUST SET THEM UP ON YOUR OWN.
With my setup your phone should drain in idle mode at 1% an hour. I can leave the Wifi and GPS Radios on, and my phone will still drain at 1% an hour while in idle mode. As long as the phone isn't sending/receiving data while in idle mode. You will see the 1% an hour battery drainage. When I say idle mode let the phone sleep for 2 hours and see what drainage you get. You should lose 2% and start from a fully charged battery.
Now you must work backwards folks. If the phone is draining properly, set up your apps to the frequency of how often you use the apps but you want them set to minimum usage. Don't set up mail to send/receive every 4 hours if you only check your mail once a day. Don't set up weather to send/receive data every 3 hours if you look at the weather once a day. That doesn't make sense. When an app needs access to the internet via 3G, 4G, or Wifi its going to consume battery life. So if you have 3 apps scheduled to send and receive data 4 times a day, your battery isn't going to last an entire day. That's why we tell everyone the EVO will use battery based upon how you setup your phone. That's if you even set up your phone.
Set up your apps. See what type of battery drain you receive over two days. Then if your battery drainage isn't bad then set up your widgets. Or you can do your widgets first, wait a few days and see how your battery drains, then set up your apps to minimum usage. Does this make sense?
After a week and you are happy with your setup and battery drain, play with the auto brightness features and animation settings to see how that affects your battery. Its a give or take thing with the EVO. You can't have all the bells and whistles on the phone going at once. Use what you need on the EVO.
The best way to get 100% juice out of your battery is to UNPLUG THE PHONE FROM THE CHARGER WHEN THE LIGHT TURNS GREEN. YOU WILL NOT SEE A 5% DROPOFF IN BATTERY POWER IF YOU UNPLUG THE PHONE AS SOON AS THE PHONE INDICATES FULLY CHARGED.
FOLLOW ALL OF THESE STEPS. I WILL EXPLAIN WHY AT THE END. If you don't use the apps I'm talking about, it doesn't matter. You must set up these apps accordingly.
First, 3G and 4G utilizes the most battery because CDMA phones always seek out the best signal. CDMA networks won't give you great battery life but you will have great call quality because the phones are constantly searching for the best signal.
IF YOU ARE NOT USING 3G, LEAVE THE 3G RADIO OFF. IF YOU ARE IN A BAD COVERAGE AREA, A LOW SIGNAL WILL DRAIN YOUR BATTERY ON A CDMA NETWORK.
Yes, 3G and 4G use more battery than Wifi! Use Wifi if its available and Sprint is working on changing the software so 4G isn't as power hungry.
ANIMATED WALLPAPER:
If you are not close to a power source DO NOT USE ANIMATED WALLPAPERS. ANIMATED WALLPAPERS CONSUME BATTERY POWER. I use them when I want to show off my phone or if I know I won't be out for long.
WIDGETS:
Widgets that need access to the internet in order to update themselves WILL CAUSE BATTERY DRAIN depending upon how often you have the app set to update the widget via the internet. Every app/widget is different but the following widgets need access to the internet: The stock clock/weather widget, any weather widgets, Friendstream, Facebook, News, News & Weather, Sprint Football Live, Stocks, Twitter, Mail, Nascar, and the Market. (For the time being DO NOT USE ANY OF THESE WIDGETS. I WILL EXPLAIN WHY AT THE END OF THIS POST. I WOULD JUST REMOVE THESE WIDGETS FROM YOUR SCREENS FOR NOW.)
SETTINGS:
Menu - Settings - Wireless & Networks "4G, HOTSPOT, 3G means Mobile Network, BLUETOOTH, Wifi - Turn off these radios by unchecking the boxes (Turn on when/as needed)
Menu - Settings - Location - "Uncheck USE GPS satellites box"
Menu - Settings - Wireless & Networks - 4G Settings - "Uncheck the Network Notification box if not already unchecked." In order to uncheck the box you have to turn on 4G, then uncheck the box. Remember to uncheck the 4G box. What does this do? It stops your phone from scanning on its own for a 4G signal, which drains battery. When you turn on 4G, the phone will locate the 4G network on its own.
Menu - Settings - Wireless & Networks - Wifi Settings - "Uncheck the Network Notification box." In order to uncheck the box you have to turn on WiFi, then uncheck the box. Remember to uncheck the Wifi box. What does this do? It stops your phone from scanning on its own for a Wifi signal, which drains battery. When you turn Wifi on, the phone will find all the available Wifi hotspots on its own.
Menu - Settings - Sound - "Uncheck Haptic Feedback box"
Menu - Settings - Display - Brightness - "Set Brightness to about 30-40% depending on your eyesight" (Using Automatic Brightness consumes more battery because the feature utilizes a sensor, especially when you are browsing.)
Menu - Settings - Display - Screen timeout "Set to 1 minute"
Menu - Settings - Display - Animation - "Set to No Animation" (This does not cut off your weather animation folks. I have yet to see what it affects.)
Menu - Settings - Accounts & Sync - "Uncheck Auto sync box"
All sync circles should go from green to gray, meaning syncing is no longer active for the following: Weather, News , Stocks, Google
- Tap News - Account settings - Update Schedule - "Set to Manual"
- Tap Stocks - Account settings - Update schedule - Should be gray in color meaning its not turned on/active
- Tap Weather - Accounts settings - Set to minimum usage for your use! (Once a day is all I need)
I leave background data checked so I don't have to always check the box in order to enter the market app. Since we turned all syncing basically off, background data will not cause any problems.
Open Mail App - Menu - More - Settings - Send & Receive - Set Frequency for Peak & Off peak times to "ONCE A DAY"
- Menu - More - Settings - General Settings - "Check Refresh upon Open box" When you open your mail app it will automatically download your mail upon opening. You don't have to use this function if you only check your mail once a day because that is what we set the mail app to do. But if you check your mail more than once a day, check the box so you control your battery consumption by manually checking your mail.
Open Fring App if you have it - Make sure you are signed out and logged off when closing. Menu - Settings - "Uncheck Automatic Startup"
Open Sprint Zone App - Menu - Settings - Set Update Frequency "Select Every month"
Open News App - Menu - Settings - Set Update schedule - Make sure it says "Manual"
Open Stocks App - Menu - Settings - Make sure Auto Sync data and Update Schedule boxes are grayed out and no check in the Auto Sync Data box exist. Uncheck the "Update when Opened box" if you do not use the stocks app. If you use this app, its basically set to manually refresh upon opening if you leave the box checked.
Open Weather App - Menu - Settings - Ensure Update Automatically Box is Unchecked. This will allow you to refresh your homescreen clock/weather widget by hitting the refresh button in the lower left screen of the weather app.
Open Talk App - Menu - Settings - "Uncheck Automatically sign in box" and make sure you sign out. Do not back out, SIGN OUT
Open News & Weather App - Menu - Settings - Refresh Settings - "Uncheck Auto-refresh box" Now you can manually refresh your weather opposed to the app doing it for you and depleting your battery.
I DO NOT USE FACEBOOK, FRIENDSTREAM, OR TWITTER SO IF THOSE APPS HAVE SEND/RECEIVE SETTINGS YOU MUST SET THEM UP ON YOUR OWN.
With my setup your phone should drain in idle mode at 1% an hour. I can leave the Wifi and GPS Radios on, and my phone will still drain at 1% an hour while in idle mode. As long as the phone isn't sending/receiving data while in idle mode. You will see the 1% an hour battery drainage. When I say idle mode let the phone sleep for 2 hours and see what drainage you get. You should lose 2% and start from a fully charged battery.
Now you must work backwards folks. If the phone is draining properly, set up your apps to the frequency of how often you use the apps but you want them set to minimum usage. Don't set up mail to send/receive every 4 hours if you only check your mail once a day. Don't set up weather to send/receive data every 3 hours if you look at the weather once a day. That doesn't make sense. When an app needs access to the internet via 3G, 4G, or Wifi its going to consume battery life. So if you have 3 apps scheduled to send and receive data 4 times a day, your battery isn't going to last an entire day. That's why we tell everyone the EVO will use battery based upon how you setup your phone. That's if you even set up your phone.
Set up your apps. See what type of battery drain you receive over two days. Then if your battery drainage isn't bad then set up your widgets. Or you can do your widgets first, wait a few days and see how your battery drains, then set up your apps to minimum usage. Does this make sense?
After a week and you are happy with your setup and battery drain, play with the auto brightness features and animation settings to see how that affects your battery. Its a give or take thing with the EVO. You can't have all the bells and whistles on the phone going at once. Use what you need on the EVO.
The best way to get 100% juice out of your battery is to UNPLUG THE PHONE FROM THE CHARGER WHEN THE LIGHT TURNS GREEN. YOU WILL NOT SEE A 5% DROPOFF IN BATTERY POWER IF YOU UNPLUG THE PHONE AS SOON AS THE PHONE INDICATES FULLY CHARGED.
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If you guys work in a building where your cell phone signal sucks. I would leave all of my radios off like: 3G, 4G, Bluetooth, Hotspot.
I walk around with my Wifi and GPS radios on and I do not see a big drain on my battery while the phone is idling. Now if you enter a building and you were running google maps or the navigation app and forgot to close one of the apps. You will see some battery drainage. Just make sure your GPS radio isn't trying to obtain a lock on your position if you decide to keep it on.
If you are a private pilot put your phone in airplane mode when flying or your phone will go nuts trying to find a signal and drain the battery. The same goes if you have to take the subway for awhile in the morning. The phone will go nuts trying to get you the best CDMA network signal. So put the phone in airplane mode before you enter the subway.
I suggest having a screen dedicated to your radio widgets: 3G (Mobile Network), 4G, Hotspot, Bluetooth, Wifi, GPS, Airplane Mode. I don't ever use Bluetooth so I don't have that widget on my screen. This will help you track whats on and whats not on.
I walk around with my Wifi and GPS radios on and I do not see a big drain on my battery while the phone is idling. Now if you enter a building and you were running google maps or the navigation app and forgot to close one of the apps. You will see some battery drainage. Just make sure your GPS radio isn't trying to obtain a lock on your position if you decide to keep it on.
If you are a private pilot put your phone in airplane mode when flying or your phone will go nuts trying to find a signal and drain the battery. The same goes if you have to take the subway for awhile in the morning. The phone will go nuts trying to get you the best CDMA network signal. So put the phone in airplane mode before you enter the subway.
I suggest having a screen dedicated to your radio widgets: 3G (Mobile Network), 4G, Hotspot, Bluetooth, Wifi, GPS, Airplane Mode. I don't ever use Bluetooth so I don't have that widget on my screen. This will help you track whats on and whats not on.
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That's a very, very good battery recap.
If trouble persists after that, the next step is here - http://androidforums.com/support-troubleshooting-evo-4g/141369-how-fix-froyo.html
Following that, be sure to set as above.
BTW - I devote a desktop page to phone management. The Power Control (Android) widget, as well as Widgets (Settings) and Shortcut (Settings) for Mobile data, Airplane mode, 4G, Sync All, Accounts & sync, Manage apps and Running services puts most of this at your fingertips.
Another option would be to put what's needed as QuickDesk icons (then you can reach them from anywhere, during an app running without interruption) - just a hint, I find QuickDesk particularly helpful when launched via long press on Search key.
PS - Guess we were editing at the same time.
If trouble persists after that, the next step is here - http://androidforums.com/support-troubleshooting-evo-4g/141369-how-fix-froyo.html
Following that, be sure to set as above.
BTW - I devote a desktop page to phone management. The Power Control (Android) widget, as well as Widgets (Settings) and Shortcut (Settings) for Mobile data, Airplane mode, 4G, Sync All, Accounts & sync, Manage apps and Running services puts most of this at your fingertips.
Another option would be to put what's needed as QuickDesk icons (then you can reach them from anywhere, during an app running without interruption) - just a hint, I find QuickDesk particularly helpful when launched via long press on Search key.
PS - Guess we were editing at the same time.
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