[Update] Turns out another issue I have encountered is the the fact that certain apps that I had before this rogue update, I no longer have. Fandango, New York Times and a couple of others. Anyone else have this issue? I'm chalking this up the the "known issues" things. First off thank you to SamsungVibrant for pointing me in the right direction after I took the update to the GPS fix last night. If anyone had seen my issue, you know that the update didn't quite work out the way it was supposed to for me. Here's the story now. While I have a working idea how the ODIN process works, I tried it to recover my phone from it's blank screen state after the update and it the ODIN process never initiated. While it connected to the phone, it never began to download and sync. Instead of going nuts trying to reflash the phone or something, I ended up booting into recovery mode and doing the following: (Note: at this point I removed my SIM and SD cards) 1- Delete cache data 2- Delete all user data (Redundant, yes, methodical, certainly) 3- Reboot This did 2 things, first it restored the phone to a working state. I knew I did something right off the bat because there was now sound during the boot process whereas there was none before. Second, It erased almost every app I had. I say almost because a certain amount of them still existed and I'm not sure why. The most bizare one to still exist was the Superuser Permissions branch app from the RyanZA fix. Yet the RZA lag fix was gone. Obviously root is now gone, and I will not re-root till I get most of my apps back that disappeared. Now, here's the rub... Apparently the update took, it replaced the kernel of the phone, as that is now the firmware that resides on the phone after the reset: Firmware version: 2.1update1 Baseband version: T959UVJI5 kernel version: 2.6.29 Build number: ECLAIR.UVJI5 Also, after screwing around trying to see what else has changed with my phone, I noticed that there are all kinds of files (programs) added, most notably Flash Player. Now, how would that have gotten there? There also seems to be something called Days, Ocean Waves, Pineone Flashlite Plugin, Y! Finance Clock, Bluetooth print sharing, and Buddies Now. I'm guessing that either this is a definite sign of Froyo and possibly even Gingerbread coming, or Samsung is screwing with people. I'm also guessing that this is part of the reason the T-mobile forced them to pull the update. Known issues: -Kies = FAIL -The update definitely will screw up your phone if you don't know what you're doing. (I'm thinking if I had either un-rooted, and/or disabled RZA's lag fix, I wouldn't have had these issues.) -Installs "future apps" -Screen unlock is a bit more difficult to swipe off Pro's: -GPS, while never truly broken on my phone, does work better and faster. -Battery charging notification went from bad, to slightly less annoying. -Stitcher Radio added, although I have no idea why. -HD Camcorder!? Oh, right, put lipstick on a pig, got it. -Task Manager added (Useful if we can control CPU processes now?) Overall, I'll be spending the better part of the afternoon recovering my phone. It seems like this was a worth while update. I remain curious as to what T-mobile is planning now that a bunch of people took the "illegal" update. Perhaps this will light a fire under someones ass to start pushing out promised updates sooner than later.